Coming Clean by Liz Fraser

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A couple of threads that I had posted on relating to the Memoir ‘Coming Clean’ by Liz Fraser have been deleted from the MN site, apparently due to non-compliance of the MN guidelines from the posters. MN are obviously well within their rights to delete threads if they demonstrably fail to comply with their guidelines, nevertheless I feel strongly that MN posters are given a platform to critique this book, and also any other public ventures by this author. It would be neither fair nor right that posters are completely silenced in this particular matter.

As such, and in line with Mumsnet not seeing “anything wrong with honest feedback” I would like to make the comment that Coming Clean as a Memoir falls short due to the shaky and not entirely truthful narrative. There are certain facts contained within this memoir that are easily disprovable (for example, relating to the marital status of both author and her partner when they started their ill-fated affair), which leaves a massive question mark over the rest of the book. Is it entirely reasonable to make money from something that is promoted as truthful when it is, in fact, not entirely true?

I think there are people whose lives have been negatively impacted by the book and its subject matter, and I hope that MN will agree that these people should have a voice, as should anybody who wants to comment on a published piece of work.

As long as posters align their comments with the MN guidelines, this is a topic that people may wish to keep discussing, and also keep in the public domain. And if MN wants to provide a set of rules particular to this thread – certainly if they are arbitrary and differ from the general guidelines - I am sure it would be very helpful.

Mumsnet, please help us to help each other by keeping in the public domain something that us silenced mums feel should be out there.

Wtaf?

😂😂😂😂

Blooming heck! That's a very odd reel......

Just wtaf was that?

Oh dear.

Oh. Is this Liz finally coming clean?! She’s “no longer….”

(For those wondering you have to watch to the very end)

Which one? When she flashes her “lady hello there” when flailing into the bed or the admission that she was a “late night lonely call girl”?!!

The one where she flashes it all. I have no words.

So why isn't she the late night lonely call girl any more? The reel cuts short. Is it because she's realised that at nearly 50 she's a woman and not a girl?

Ah, I watched the full original reel and now see where she gets the idea for manic dancing. Hopefully it won't get too Britney.

Desperado 😜.

So weird why set your phone up
on a tripod to film
yourself dancing on a bed bizarre

Just imagine how filthy her DMs are… to other people’s husbands 🦟

Not very professional for attracting luxury hotels as clients

Awww look - on her stories - she's keen for us to see how THIN she was when she was very pregnant at 43 and how scrawny she was JUST FOUR days after giving birth because she is - very sadly - extremely messed up and competitive about body shape and weight. Pass the biscuits, someone, none of us give a toss.

Agree with that. So many of her pics are just desperately trying to show how thin she is. Having a little experience in that area, half of it will be trying to compete with other women (us, I guess) but half will be trying to get someone to notice she's sick, or wants them to worry about her.

Oh wow. I'm cringing so hard at the terrible fake tan attempt in the bump photo.

Oh, it's quite a laugh, isn't it? Her phone suddenly "throwing up these photos" today, even though they're very random to the time of year thryd’ve been taken. 😏

They might not serve the purpose she wants. These photos just highlight how much she’s aged in the past 4 or 5 years. I promise I’m not trying to be harsh here. She’s actually brought this up herself and these pictures just underline that😉

You've got to just love the internet! No English airport canceled any flights to Munich yesterday (Sept 6). However, they did the day before. Clearly, Liz had Airbnb guests scheduled for today, so she had already reserved this hotel.

We all know she would have been spewing and venting her frustration all over the internet if her flight had been canceled and she had to pay for a hotel. The airline would have told her to return home.

As a seasoned business traveler, I can confirm that this is the usual course of events. You can obtain flight refunds, although it usually entails some administrative back-and-forth, but securing a hotel, especially when she lives within two hours of the airport, is a not-going-to-happen-ever. Not even food vouchers are provided for such situations; those are typically reserved for really lengthy delays!

You've got to rise earlier than the school drop-off to get one over us early birds Elisabeth! 🌅😄

Omg

As big a fantasist as she is, yesterday’s early evening flight was in fact cancelled:

So. Let me get this straight. She's saying that her flight (about 50 miles away from her home) was cancelled, so the airline paid for her to stay in a hotel overnight to wait for the next one? Has this ever, in the history of cheap flights in the uk, ever happened?

Or - she paid for this luxury hotel (but HOW? she NEEDS subs). In any case, there, in fact, was no cancelled flight...? Even I'm confused by her um 'truth interpretation'

Even if cancelled, I don’t buy she stayed in a hotel in London when flying from Gatwick. Gatwick is in London by name only. Like Liz is a journalist by fantasy only. Surely, you’d stay near Gatwick? This said, there is no surely with Liz. Poor lonely Liz.

Yes this. Also if she checked in so early why only two hours’ sleep? Because it was so far away? She’d have got more staying in the terminal. Hotel in London makes zero sense especially when she said there were seven rooms for the whole cancelled flight.

I'm more interested in whether her paid work over the last couple of years has netted her more income over all than I earn in a single month. I somehow doubt it, and I'm by no means a high earner.