Is there something else going on

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I’m sorry if this is in the wrong place, I can’t think of the right section to put it. I can’t shake the feeling that something deeper is going on here. I’m not sure if it’s my anxiety talking and the fact I have a lot more time to sit and think about it but I can’t get it out of my head. I am thinking something devastating to the planet, asteroid collision or something, with corona as a cover up to avoid mass hysteria in our final days. Why are they still launching Starlink when the rest of the world has completely shut down? Where is all this money coming from that the government is throwing around seemingly without a care to how we will pay it back. Why are they so unbothered by so many members of society who stand to lose everything if we stay shut down for much longer (pubs, leisure industry, travel/holidays, weddings etc). Why do we keep hearing about empty hospitals, bored staff and the empty Nightingale hospitals? Why are we stopping ALL planned surgery’s seemingly disregarding the health of everybody apart from corona sufferers. No plans for if/how/when our children will go back to school. I just can’t get my head around it.

It's not silly of you. It's just a sign that you're finding it hard. Have you read The Hunger Games? I read all 3 books over a couple of days and it made our current circumstances seem quite pleasant

In reacting to a pandemic a government will never get everything correct. Too many unknowns and unpredictabilities.

The UK government might have over done the lockdown and Nightingale building in retrospect. Borrowing a lot is the downside, fewer sick people is the upside. If they'd got it wrong in the other direction the ups and downs would be swapped.

There's a saying something like Hindsight engineers never make mistakes that is apt.

Others have said it was to sneak 5g into schools. I live right near one and I’ve not seen any vans pull up outside yet.

Hey, OP, I'm not sure but I think you may be experiencing something called intrusive thoughts. I'm not an expert but I went through a time when I suffered from them to some extent.

CBT techniques can maybe help - there are a lot of resources if you google intrusive thoughts.

Take care and be kind to yourself.

I think any conspiracy theory like this assumes the government is far far more competent than they are. If they can't even order hospital gowns, I think the chances of them being able to stage a massive cover up are small.

Also, and I realise that there's no reason for you to believe me on this, but I know someone who works for NASA and as far as I can tell, they've spent this week working out the optimum number of participants on a zoom call which suggests to me that there's nothing suspicious re asteroids etc going on.

Yes there is most definitely something else going on. Not sarcastic at all.
The reason why it's going on is because the majority of people are sleep walking and submitting to it.
Not ridiculous. Not a conspiracy. Ignorance is bliss so they say.
You're in the wrong message boards for that kind of talk anyway. Here we only talk about gin, how absurd it is to drink too much gin and how he's definitely a cheater.

The thing is, people are saying "they're keeping us inside because they want to do X". But they're not keeping us all inside. There are quite a few people out and about - key workers, people travelling to care for elderly parents, people doing their daily exercise etc. They're hardly out there digging up the roads and sticking masks everywhere; someone would have noticed.

Also, they're not that organised.

I really doubt it. I think we've just been unlucky. This pandemic was called years ago but governments put their head in the sand. They carry out ' stress tests' on banks but after 2008 I guess a lot went on the back burner as regards all that as the banks were recovering.
I do understand how you feel though and conspiracy theories will rumble around about this for years as it's such a big change to our way of life. It's hard not to think something else is going on, but I really don't think there is.
Take care

They’re digging up all the roads here but they do that all the time....

Ink testing compliance etc.

As for Starlink well the whole world is not completely shut. That's social media nonsense.

I have bought food from supermarkets and a farm, my bins have been collected, Amazon and the postman have made deliveries to my house, I plan to have take away tomorrow night, I have family working overtime in labs, someone is making a hell of a lot of PPE and is driving it around, I am wfh on engineering type designs that other people are building (mostly alone but sometimes in groups), my friends in the police and ambulance service are busy, so is my friend the undertaker sadly.

Big projects like satellite launches taking many years to come to fruition that depend on many external factors being correct like orbits and weather won't send everyone home furloughed. They will launch.

cupcakehurricane101 does it involve the moon being replaced with a plastic fake, 5G mind control beams or hiding the return of Jesus?

@cupcakehurricane101 do elaborate

I really hate conspiracy theories. But, I’ve found myself wondering if certain aspects of the govt responses haven’t been lacklustre because it wouldn’t be so bad for social care and housing crises if there weren’t so many vulnerable and elderly around.
And then I check myself and think surely no-one would be that evil, or indeed capable.
But seriously OP, it’s ok. An asteroid would be more pleasant than this ongoing saga!!
Try to enjoy something- I’m enjoying the birds (I see loads more and hear them non-stop), having to clean my windows less (fewer cars going by), that I seem to be able to see more stars at night....
If none of that works... maybe watch the film Melancholia - I absolutely loved it and it reminded me of how even if the worst (for the Earth) were to happen, doing it with others wouldn’t be so bad.
Also, consider speaking to a GP if you are really struggling

I think the conspiracy theories we come up with are a better indicator of what's going on in our own minds than in the world around us. For about 7 years after 9/11 I was pretty sure the world was ending. Every plane I saw was a harbinger of imminent death. This was compounded by being in an abusive relationship and PND.

Nowadays my mental health is ok and the conspiracy theory that's been quietly forming in my mind about covid-19 is actually quite a positive one:

That world leaders finally got theit shit together and decided to take drastic action to avert disaster in the form of climate change. To do this they had to find a way to bypass the business, transport and manufacturing lobby who sadly depend on being able to wreck the planet in order to make money.

Every time i walk out of my front door and breathe possibly the freshest air I've ever inhaled in my life and see the sky as clear as ever I've seen it, I'm more convinced.

What others have said. Conspiracy theorists always massively overestimate the competence of governments. This government is barely coping with the situation they've been dealt. No way on God's earth they could have actually planned this.

It's rough on everyone. It's fucking with people's heads. You're absolutely normal to be freaked out by this. But don't give into the madness. We will come out of it and most of us will be OK.

compass 😂😂😂

Thank you to those being kind, (actually everyone responding is helping) honestly I have never felt this bad. I feel like everything is pointless now. I have 3 small children and my heart is breaking for them, I am snappy and absent because I feel so helpless about the situation. I haven’t told those close to me because I know it sounds so crazy, I can’t explain it.

MMM, I think the virus is REAL. Like its a really real visrus doing the sort of thing virus do, unfortunately.

I do though think that it comes at an interesting time when Governments had been setting up research centres to look into and track the new social movements. There seems to be a concern over growing public dissatisfaction, disaffection and mass social unrest. The idea that laws needed to be enacted across all of Europe to limit the number of people in any public gathering has been on the agenda for a while. At least since the student demos, and some anti terror laws were brought in even as far back as Seatle.

So, now we can not gather. we are now highly circumspect about other people and about crowds. We will remain highly vigilant and suspicious of crowds. Its no accident that we will have a phased return to normality, and that social gathering places will be last.

In terms of the economy, it was due its cyclical collapse anyway, and the trend towards primitive accumulation over any investment into productive labour, and the shift to immaterial labour, and intellectual labour and needing less labour in general means we probably have at least 2/3 rd of the population superfluous under capitalism very soon.
Its a mess, and they know it! and this is why Governments are stepping in to support business and to offer welfare. They have no choice. In order to stop the social unrest they most fear (lest it fuck up capitalism) they have to quell the unrest.

Its certainly not any alien activity or 5G or asteroids.

Yes! I'm so glad you're with me on this, and rumour has it Jesus will actually rise from the flames of a 5G tower. Don't you know Bill Gates is a lizard? And the Queen eats babies??

@MiniTheMinx exactly

I'm not by any means a crackpot but I agree it's not totally unreasonable to think something bigger is happening. Truth is stranger than fiction these days.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to feel overwhelmed and hopeless at times right now OP. I don’t know anyone who is coping totally brilliantly. It’s scary, we are in limbo and we don’t know how long for. That’s not a great situation for our mental health.

In terms of a cover up - well the government can’t get adequate PPE to cover up healthcare staff never mind anything else right now. If you look at the mess they’ve made of getting organised I do think you might be giving them too much credit.

OP, where is the bunker? Downing Street? Has to be close by surely for them to vanish not long after their press conference!

Only kidding, sorry I had to! I really do sympathise with you. I can be a bit like this sometimes. I really hope nothing like this is going on. I’m sure it isn’t. This may or may not help but sometimes if I ever feel like I’m in a helpless situation, I just think to myself what’s the point stressing about something I wouldn’t be able to change anyway? Just enjoy your life and enjoy your babies.

Something deeper is definitely going on but us mere mortals will never know we just need to go along with it and stay safe x

I rather suspect the answer is in you feel helpless about THIS situation

I suspect you feel helpless in some other aspect of your life and it is transferring, manifesting as pandemic anxiety.

What are you really helpless and desperate about? What's was going on in real life for you before this?