worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

@Sunshinegirl82 On the other hand, Matt Hancock has just said that the peak is expected to come in a couple of months (pretty vague I know)- I don't think anyone is sure about when the peak will come in each country.

We can't use China as a model for this, due to the strict quarentine measures they were able to introduce.

"Follow the science"
"Happy Birthday"
"Let's shake hands"
"Call 111"
"That's a decision for PHE"
"We're having a Cobra meeting"
"Take it on the chin"
"Wash your hands"

Have I missed any slogans?

Oh yeh, rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic.

NO PLANS FOR MASS CLOSURE OF SCHOOLS!!!!

No plans for school closures

No plans to close schools.

Doesn’t have a big impact on children.

They’ll be supervising each other then, when the teachers are dropping like flies

No school closures 🤷‍♀️ really...

No plan for mass closure. No plans to shut schools even with a covid case...

We know the latter because that's what's happening now.

I'm staggered.

I think parents who can will vote with their feet.

If they can avoid their child bringing the virus home by pulling them out, then they will.

Children don't even seem to be on their radar.

I'm not sure they have any plan at all right now. Once figures rise significantly they might make a plan perhaps?

Dread to think of the mess we are going to be in within a month :/

Maybe they want it to get worse, maybe that’s their plan?

Whenever a relative or friend dies because of this, be sure to remember who was in charge and did not act in a timely manner.

No plan for anything at all in terms of helping people avoid infection, it's all vague nothings. It's quite alarming how open minded they appear to be about this virus swamping the population.

Just now: vulnerable people need to make sure they get the right advice on self isolating … (no mention of from where, how) and that's something they're working on.

Oh goody. Would you like to crack on with that please Matt? How many meetings is that likely to take? Because community spread is moving fast, and by the time you come up with something it may well be too late for those people to be able to take action.

And determination again that once people have had it they'll be immune. They really are just wanting everyone to get it in the hope of immunity and those with reduced chances of surviving it, oh well.

Well I'm sure so many will be thrilled on here... And what happens when those on the fsm parents get struck down and they can't get an ambulances or a bed, because by then of course reality hits?.

And everyone is too ill, all at the same time.

Good question Hillary.

We are Italy in 7-10 days

I meant a significant proportion of the elderly in my above post. Sorry for poor typing on phone.

He seems to ignore the fact that Liverpool does have 3000 Spanish fans there right now and why this should be allowed. Arsenal have cancelled their game due to them self isolating. Liverpool however have taken the attitude that they haven't been told not to play so therefore will play.

I am surprised to hear that there are no plans at all for school closures- there will come a point when they will have to consider this, so surely it is better to say something like "we are not at that point yet?"

Unfucking believable...........lost for words at his replies.

They really think we are special and getting it right doesn't he? Matt Hancock just seems so detached from the situation and then says we will need every ventilator we can buy and to train up everyone passing to use one.

The house all seem quite worried about his plans, which seems to be to let it burn through us.

Apparently emerency legislation being prepared by the government... Not sure what..

@middleager the Derby test as far as I'm aware has only just been developed (about six weeks ago) and the company reported that they were sending some to China for testing, I would be very surprised if it was already in use all over the world but I will try and find out if that's true.

Jeremy hunt is the only person who I thought sounded v frustrated!

Just watched The Andrew Neil Show. The government are having an emergency powers meeting with the opposition tomorrow..... make what you will..

Clearly no legislation to shut schools.

Thanks Charlie