worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Guardian article reporting that early intervention makes a significant difference

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/research-finds-huge-impact-of-interventions-on-spread-of-covid-19

Matt's not going to criticse other countries for "not following the science"

Heard it all now. Because this country is clearly such a shining beacon of excellence that cares for people and takes pandemics seriously.

That was fucking tone-deaf, even for a Tory minister.

No attempt to reach people at all and communicate meaningfully over the issues that everyone is clamoring about.

Keep Britishing on, soundbites, 'pulling together,' etc. etc.

I'd like to see much more detailed information about where cases are so people can make informed individual decisions about when to start their own social distancing. I'd like to see positive encouragement for this rather than "carry on as normal till we tell you all what to do at once"

This.

It is difficult and in some cases impossible for those vulnerable people to take those steps without government support, their work places won't accept it without that back up. This endless drifting along having meetings and advising bugger all is not at all reassuring to me, I am very worried that by the time they get around to deciding any action I will have been exposed, I will have brought it home and I and another family member are more likely to have the severe/dangerous version of this.

@SubjectMatterExpert have you watched the Chris Whitty interview?

He is very aware of the stress that will be placed on the NHS, it is discussed at length.

Hunt is poking him!
Can we still contain the virus?

Good question Jeremy.

More cases than when wuhan went into lock down

To be fair it was not like a speech or press conference to the nation... if CV was not on the agenda none of you would have bothered watching it. Not quite sure what you expected from a speech to the commons?

Thanks @SansaSnark

I keep veering between being cool-headed and total panic. The Italy figures are making me panic again.

Emergency legislation coming next week according to Sam Coates

mobile.twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1237816885544136705

I expected nothing of the announcement and that’s what we have seen. I suppose we individually decide on how we should respond to this based upon our own circumstances. I just wish they’d say things like: ‘where possible people should work from home’

Where can I watch it online ? YoursTunbridgeWells asthma isn't often serious, what if I had chronic fatigue syndrome

Where is the link to the Chris Whitty interview please? Apologies if I’ve missed it.

So essentially after we've had another meeting about another meeting we might meet up and discuss what we might do at some as yet undetermined point in time. Probably after a meeting.

Here is a question I guess no one can answer but here goes

Is the severity of it (and the death rate) because it is so new, so like introducing the common cold to a remote amazon tribe or because it is that severe.

After this first wave will it settle to being an endemic coronavirus that causes for the vast majority what it is causing for 80% at the moment or will it always be like this? Will immunity the first time mean its better or worse the second or will we always need a vaccine

Or is that simply the unknown

Oh my fucking god, talking about the it fucking selves crammed into the corridors!!

Just admit we are officially on the second phase FFS... give those with the means to do so the leverage to reduce social contact somewhat and start to slow it down a bit. The WHO are doing everything short of a song and dance number in front of a flashing "THIS IS A BIG DEAL - DO WHAT YOU CAN!" sign to try to flag up how serious it's got.

It's not the virus I fear - it's the combination of the virus and the fact that the NHS is not going to be geared up to cope with this in its current state and isn't in a state to get remotely virus ready with how badly it's been beaten down in recent years.

Jeremy Hunt asks can we still contain? when are we moving to next phase?

MH: Peak will be in next couple months not weeks.

MH: WHO thinks this will spread. This was all in our plan. Will discuss at Cobra tomorrow.

Fuck. when Jeremy Hunt is questioning why the government has not done what China did when they had the same amount of cases, as in China locked wuhan down when it got to this stage.

you've gotta wonder!

Major coronavirus updates so far today:

• Italy: 2,313 new cases, 196 new deaths
• Iran: 958 new cases, 63 new deaths
• Spain: 527 new cases, 18 new deaths
• France: 497 new cases, 15 new deaths
• Germany: 343 new cases, 1 new death

t.co/eUoE2b20hL BNO newsroom

Oh my fucking god, talking about the it fucking selves crammed into the corridors!!

And this! Unbelievable.

if CV was not on the agenda none of you would have bothered watching it

But it is, and so we are.

Some very good and relevant questions being cleverly avoided as per usual on parliament tv

@Lynamic agreed asthma would be lower on scale than COPD I expect. BUt if we come to the situation of automatically rationing care to those without co-morbidities... I'm not saying we will but in an Italy type situation then it is definately possible.

So, they are not actually doing anything, except some cross-govt talks tomorrow and another COBRA meeting next week? Have I got that right?

Sounds really helpful.