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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 20

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usernameishistory · 10/03/2020 15:57

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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Apricotfool · 11/03/2020 10:38

Thanks @Motorina. This is what I thought but it hasn’t been communicated to her or any in her team. She’s new there so scared of kicking up a fuss. Hopefully she will get some backing today from her managers.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 10:40

Coronavirus conference 'cancelled due to coronavirus' t.co/yXLdcxq0lk
The independent

VivaLeBeaver · 11/03/2020 10:40

wonder, through the wonders of science, if they will ever trace it back to the first human case and what happened - like CJD?

Think they managed it with ebola so quite possibly.

Apricotfool · 11/03/2020 10:40

Do we think the COBRA will be at 11 again?

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 10:41

Belgium announced the country's first death from the novel coronavirus Wednesday morning t.co/t3XAQKHwlj
CNN

usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:41

@GrizzlebumsMum

So feeling for you, and noticing your user name Grin not funny though too.

If I was saying those things about us I'd probably alsp be worried and thinking its kind of over? That you've all managed it ok?

Watch closely for any decline and act quickly, but other than that I'd presume we'd be turned away.

If you feel concerned about anything though you need to call GP or 111 for their response.

Stay well Flowers

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ofwarren · 11/03/2020 10:42

What time is the Budget today, where can I watch it and what are we expecting to be in it? #Budget2020 t.co/dxg35BOjuA t.co/L8C8c4TqoQ
Daily Mirror

buttermilkwaffles · 11/03/2020 10:42

South Korea Press Conference Summary

"Korea has faced difficulties with COVID19 as the previous model of isolation/quarantine no longer seemed feasible.

Rather, we believe that we have created a new model fit for a pandemic in a globalized world."

Emphasis was placed on transparency, rapidly available and accurate information. Transparency is essential to ensure active participation from citizens.

Rather than erecting and imposing physical and legal barriers, social barriers were created through social distancing. /

New innovative ideas were taken seriously and enacted ASAP. World class IT programs were implemented

Drive thru testing

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Utilization of GPS information for contact tracing.

Travelers entering the country download a self report app by KCDC to track symptoms and wherabouts.

However one of the most important elements of the management of #COVID19 is rapid and accurate diagnostic capability. Without information chaos and mistrust ensues. South Korea is able to process an average of 12,000 samples a day; up to 20,000 if needed.

Preparedness is essential. Perhaps coincidentally and fortuitously South Korea had run a Table Top Exercise for the potential large-scale novel coronavirus outbreak in December 2019 and had established an organized system to expand testing capability.

South Korea is by no means declaring victory. They are prepared for a prolonged mitigation phase as #COVID19 has now reached multiple other countries and are preparing for imported cases. In addition this is a very "smart virus" that continues to cause multiple clusters of cases.

Source and link to press briefing video in full:
mobile.twitter.com/HannahNamMD/status/1237618148125409281

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 10:42

NHS will test 10,000 patients for the killer coronavirus every day t.co/eUHP8wHdAy
Daily Mail

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 10:45

@VivaLeBeaver Yes I think that's where I recall it...

Just seen this petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403 - Close Schools/Colleges down for an appropriate amount of time amidst COVID19. Currently has 241,076 signatures

Motorina · 11/03/2020 10:45

@apricotfool not knowing what line of work she's in, it's hard to point to the right guidance, but there are various at www.gov.uk/government/collections/wuhan-novel-coronavirus

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 10:46

Parliament will consider this for a debate
Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate

Waiting for 4 days for a debate date

Government will respond
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Motorina · 11/03/2020 10:46

@Apricotfool this may be the more useful link www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/

Apricotfool · 11/03/2020 10:48

Thanks @motorina I will forward them on. She’s a phlebotomist.

Apricotfool · 11/03/2020 10:48

In clinics and community

Exochord · 11/03/2020 10:51

How do we all feel about travel within the U.K. just now?
DH’s employer has banned all UK travel. I wouldn’t travel anywhere right now to be honest.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 10:52

Iran reports 958 new cases of coronavirus and 63 new deaths, raising total to 9,000 cases and 354 dead t.co/eUoE2b20hL
BNO newsroom

hilbil21 · 11/03/2020 10:54

@Exochord thank you Smile

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 11/03/2020 10:57

Iran's death rate is approx 4%

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 11/03/2020 10:58

If it's taking 48 hours for test results that means we're at least 2 days behind on figures.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 11/03/2020 10:59

I think I'm going to have to take my daughter out of school now. I'm concerned about penalties but I don't think it's responsible to keep sending them in.

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 11:00

“with fitness fanatics likely to be a 'high risk' group”

After that Italian marathon runner, I'd avoid marathons or very long gym sessions that over-tax the body too much

However, sensible amounts of exercise actually strengthens the immune system

I read a doctor advising that those with high BP worried about COVID

  • as they have a much higher mortality rate -
is to exercise to strengthen the heart muscles and improve lung capacity
usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 11:00

For when this thread is full next one is here

Keep well all Flowers

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ItIsWhatItIsInnit · 11/03/2020 11:00

Coronavirus conference 'cancelled due to coronavirus'

Sorry, I know I shouldn't laugh but LOL

Motorina · 11/03/2020 11:05

@apricotfool the guidance for general practice is probably the most relevant. Page 8 onwards at www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/20200305-COVID-19-PRIMARY-CARE-SOP-GP-PUBLICATION-V1.1.pdf

But, yes, she should be asking and, with a positive contact history, should not be treating.

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