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IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

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Twiglets1 · 29/01/2026 14:33

Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

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Ihatetomatoes · 01/02/2026 22:47

JacknDiane · 01/02/2026 22:25

The belittling of anyone who has marched in protest of what happened in Gaza, says everything about you @Ihatetomatoes

It actually doesn't. I can think for myself.

Ihatetomatoes · 01/02/2026 22:48

SpaceRaccoon · 01/02/2026 22:28

Apparently pro-Palestinians won't condemn the IRCG as they oppose what this woman refers to as the "colonial genocide", aka Israel.
So tens of thousands of Iranians can die for all she cares.

https://x.com/drghadasasa/status/2017355507246256217

Indeed.

Not really thinking about others are they.

JacknDiane · 01/02/2026 23:28

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ReturnOfTheToad · 01/02/2026 23:44

SpaceRaccoon · 01/02/2026 22:28

Apparently pro-Palestinians won't condemn the IRCG as they oppose what this woman refers to as the "colonial genocide", aka Israel.
So tens of thousands of Iranians can die for all she cares.

https://x.com/drghadasasa/status/2017355507246256217

What all of them? Some kind of hive mind is it consisting of millions and millions of people across the globe? Don't be so ridiculous.

This thread is about 70000 dead Palestinians. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israel denied killing for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israels supporters denigrated and called 'propaganda' and 'Pallywood' for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that the media were called terrorist supporters for reporting on their deaths. The 70000 dead people that some people found so objectionable that they tried to shut down protests about their deaths.

SharonEllis · 02/02/2026 04:44

ReturnOfTheToad · 01/02/2026 23:44

What all of them? Some kind of hive mind is it consisting of millions and millions of people across the globe? Don't be so ridiculous.

This thread is about 70000 dead Palestinians. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israel denied killing for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israels supporters denigrated and called 'propaganda' and 'Pallywood' for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that the media were called terrorist supporters for reporting on their deaths. The 70000 dead people that some people found so objectionable that they tried to shut down protests about their deaths.

This is a ridiculous distortion of the truth. Israel has never denied killing Palestinians. There was always going to be dispute about numbers. From 7 October onwards thete was undoubtedly sn element of the pro-Palestinian movement that was pro-Hamas, so they were terrorist supporters. Saturday proved that beyond doubt with marchers explicitly supporting the Islamic Republic, Hamas and Hezbollah and calls to globalise the intifada. And that is why some people have called for the marches to be banned.

Twiglets1 · 02/02/2026 06:00

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ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 07:58

SharonEllis · 02/02/2026 04:44

This is a ridiculous distortion of the truth. Israel has never denied killing Palestinians. There was always going to be dispute about numbers. From 7 October onwards thete was undoubtedly sn element of the pro-Palestinian movement that was pro-Hamas, so they were terrorist supporters. Saturday proved that beyond doubt with marchers explicitly supporting the Islamic Republic, Hamas and Hezbollah and calls to globalise the intifada. And that is why some people have called for the marches to be banned.

'There was always going to be dispute about numbers' except there isn't is there, that's the whole point, Israel aren't disputing now that they have definitely killed 1 in every 28 people in Gaza? Previous conflicts showed that the numbers that come out from Gaza were reliable, that has borne true again to the surprise of no one.

SharonEllis · 02/02/2026 08:06

Its fairly normal in a war to have a more reliable reckoning of casualties near the end than the beginning.

moderate · 02/02/2026 08:14

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 07:58

'There was always going to be dispute about numbers' except there isn't is there, that's the whole point, Israel aren't disputing now that they have definitely killed 1 in every 28 people in Gaza? Previous conflicts showed that the numbers that come out from Gaza were reliable, that has borne true again to the surprise of no one.

Israel aren't disputing now that they have definitely killed 1 in every 28 people in Gaza?

Nobody is disputing that lots of people have died in Gaza.
Only the wilfully blind are claiming that they were all killed by Israel.

FairPearlSnake · 02/02/2026 08:19

There’s a lot of hard work being done here. Unfortunately it’s not working.

SpaceRaccoon · 02/02/2026 08:49

ReturnOfTheToad · 01/02/2026 23:44

What all of them? Some kind of hive mind is it consisting of millions and millions of people across the globe? Don't be so ridiculous.

This thread is about 70000 dead Palestinians. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israel denied killing for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that Israels supporters denigrated and called 'propaganda' and 'Pallywood' for 2 years. The 70000 dead Palestinians that the media were called terrorist supporters for reporting on their deaths. The 70000 dead people that some people found so objectionable that they tried to shut down protests about their deaths.

What, you think all 70K of them are innocent civilians not Hamas fighters?

inamarina · 02/02/2026 09:05

SpaceRaccoon · 02/02/2026 08:49

What, you think all 70K of them are innocent civilians not Hamas fighters?

Also pp’s claim that Israel denied killing Palestinians for two years is pretty wild.

SharonEllis · 02/02/2026 09:07

inamarina · 02/02/2026 09:05

Also pp’s claim that Israel denied killing Palestinians for two years is pretty wild.

Hard to credit really. I think Israel was quite open about the fact they were conducting a war?!

SpaceRaccoon · 02/02/2026 09:07

inamarina · 02/02/2026 09:05

Also pp’s claim that Israel denied killing Palestinians for two years is pretty wild.

That's... quite a claim. Wow.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 12:13

SpaceRaccoon · 02/02/2026 08:49

What, you think all 70K of them are innocent civilians not Hamas fighters?

Wasn't it 8000 fighters out of 70000 deaths that they managed to name as dead or probably dead? More dead children than terrorists.

And to whoever said it yes Israel were denying the 70000 numbers for 2 years, of course they admitted to killing some people but let's not all pretend that they didn't constantly deny that the numbers coming out of Gaza were correct, that even posters here weren't vilifying the BBC for reporting the correct numbers. If Israel are slow at counting they should have just said that instead of accusing Palestinians who it would appear did a fantastic job at keeping records in very difficult conditions of lying.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 12:16

inamarina · 02/02/2026 09:05

Also pp’s claim that Israel denied killing Palestinians for two years is pretty wild.

My claim was that they denied killing 70000 Palestinians, they did constantly deny that the figure coming out of Gaza was correct. I'm surprised that some people are so shocked by that that they are wowing Confused

SpaceRaccoon · 02/02/2026 12:22

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 12:13

Wasn't it 8000 fighters out of 70000 deaths that they managed to name as dead or probably dead? More dead children than terrorists.

And to whoever said it yes Israel were denying the 70000 numbers for 2 years, of course they admitted to killing some people but let's not all pretend that they didn't constantly deny that the numbers coming out of Gaza were correct, that even posters here weren't vilifying the BBC for reporting the correct numbers. If Israel are slow at counting they should have just said that instead of accusing Palestinians who it would appear did a fantastic job at keeping records in very difficult conditions of lying.

There will be considerably more than 8000 given the habit of not wearing a uniform (unless it's for display purposes like returning the bodies of murdered babies and toddlers).

By "Palestinian" record keeping, you mean Hamas. They're the ones that run Gaza. That's great that you think they're doing a fantastic job though. I personally think attacking Israel and causing your own country to be flattened, and killing your own civilians with gay and reckless abandon if they dare oppose you, it's a fantastic job, but we all have our opinions.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 13:18

I personally think attacking Israel and causing your own country to be flattened, and killing your own civilians with gay and reckless abandon if they dare oppose you, it's a fantastic job, but we all have our opinions.

You think that that's a fantastic job? Yeah, we sure do all have our opinions Confused

inamarina · 02/02/2026 13:51

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 12:16

My claim was that they denied killing 70000 Palestinians, they did constantly deny that the figure coming out of Gaza was correct. I'm surprised that some people are so shocked by that that they are wowing Confused

You said Israel denied killing 70,000 for two years.
That sounds as if the number had been 70,000 at the beginning of the two years and Israel just kept denying it for that long.
As @SharonEllis said: “Its fairly normal in a war to have a more reliable reckoning of casualties near the end than the beginning.”

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 13:54

inamarina · 02/02/2026 13:51

You said Israel denied killing 70,000 for two years.
That sounds as if the number had been 70,000 at the beginning of the two years and Israel just kept denying it for that long.
As @SharonEllis said: “Its fairly normal in a war to have a more reliable reckoning of casualties near the end than the beginning.”

There was an accurate counting of recovered bodies all along that's the whole point.

moderate · 02/02/2026 17:40

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 13:54

There was an accurate counting of recovered bodies all along that's the whole point.

What are you basing this claim on?

You’re trying to move the goalposts from:
“Israel have corroborated the current statistics”
to:
“Israel corroborating the current statistics implies that they corroborate all historical statistics”.

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 18:01

moderate · 02/02/2026 17:40

What are you basing this claim on?

You’re trying to move the goalposts from:
“Israel have corroborated the current statistics”
to:
“Israel corroborating the current statistics implies that they corroborate all historical statistics”.

Common sense.

moderate · 02/02/2026 18:08

ReturnOfTheToad · 02/02/2026 18:01

Common sense.

🤣🤣🤣

ScrollingLeaves · 02/02/2026 18:41

Twiglets1 · 29/01/2026 14:33

Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

How comforting.

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