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IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

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Twiglets1 · 29/01/2026 14:33

Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

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GeneralPeter · 30/01/2026 09:57

savemetoo · 30/01/2026 09:49

I don't understand the view of 'this is all fine because lots of bad things have happened in long distant history unfortunately' - this isn't history, it's happening now and it's truly bizarre that people think it's fine.

Even worse IMO is the view that 'they weren't starving people to death they were just starving them a little bit and it's fine because it was only the ill kids that died'.

Honestly where has people's humanity gone? Hamas and the IDF are both a complete bunch of cunts, The kids caught up in all this did not deserve any of it.

I'm not sure anyone has said "this is all fine because lots of bad things have happened in long distant history unfortunately".

Someone did make a very strong and specific claim that this is one of the most appalling periods in the history of human civilisation. As a claim about the Gaza war that only makes sense if the person is weighting harms done to Gazans and Israelis at hundreds of times more than harms done to other people in other places. That strikes me as a massive loss of perspective that doesn't in fact help.

moderate · 30/01/2026 10:18

Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 09:05

That's a very interesting website I was not aware of until you posted so thank you.

I couldn't actually open the link but found the organisation at www.pcpsr.org/

Oops, I spoonerised it from memory! Thank you for posting the correct link.

moderate · 30/01/2026 10:21

Beachtastic · 30/01/2026 09:39

81% who watched videos still did not believe that Hamas committed atrocities????? Have I read that right? 🤡

Regrettably, you have. This is the scale of the death cult Israel (and the Jewish diaspora) faces.

Randomuser2026 · 30/01/2026 10:28

IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

Article in The Jerusalem Post:
The IDF … confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed …and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

So people did die from starvation but due to their ill health they don’t count as being a person at all.
Old, ill and disabled people are still people. Starving people first to sickness, does not lessen the evil that is finishing the off by further starvation to death.

Beachtastic · 30/01/2026 10:28

moderate · 30/01/2026 10:21

Regrettably, you have. This is the scale of the death cult Israel (and the Jewish diaspora) faces.

That attitude has certainly been clearly reflected here on MN, sadly.

Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 10:32

savemetoo · 30/01/2026 09:49

I don't understand the view of 'this is all fine because lots of bad things have happened in long distant history unfortunately' - this isn't history, it's happening now and it's truly bizarre that people think it's fine.

Even worse IMO is the view that 'they weren't starving people to death they were just starving them a little bit and it's fine because it was only the ill kids that died'.

Honestly where has people's humanity gone? Hamas and the IDF are both a complete bunch of cunts, The kids caught up in all this did not deserve any of it.

No one is saying it's fine because it was only the ill kids that died.

I specifically said, There has also been a lack of access to specialist milk powder & medication & that must have been devastating for the families of children with complex needs. Sick children need a lot of extra help to stay well and this was very sadly not available during the war. Some of this was the fault of Israel, some Hamas.

It's obviously not "ok" that anyone dies. But facts do matter and the thousands dying of starvation in Gaza that were spoken about were not factual. I think this can be acknowledged now we are well into the ceasefire and the potential threat of famine has gone away.

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SpaceRaccoon · 30/01/2026 10:34

savemetoo · 30/01/2026 09:49

I don't understand the view of 'this is all fine because lots of bad things have happened in long distant history unfortunately' - this isn't history, it's happening now and it's truly bizarre that people think it's fine.

Even worse IMO is the view that 'they weren't starving people to death they were just starving them a little bit and it's fine because it was only the ill kids that died'.

Honestly where has people's humanity gone? Hamas and the IDF are both a complete bunch of cunts, The kids caught up in all this did not deserve any of it.

No-one thinks it's "fine". I'm sure most sane people really wish Hamas hadn't done what they did and started all this.

Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 10:35

Randomuser2026 · 30/01/2026 10:28

IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

Article in The Jerusalem Post:
The IDF … confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed …and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

So people did die from starvation but due to their ill health they don’t count as being a person at all.
Old, ill and disabled people are still people. Starving people first to sickness, does not lessen the evil that is finishing the off by further starvation to death.

You know as well as I do that the people who died from starvation that were paraded in front of the world's media for propaganda purposes were very sick children who had additional nutritional needs or medical needs that were not met. This fact has nothing to do with them not being classified as people.

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Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 10:36

SpaceRaccoon · 30/01/2026 10:34

No-one thinks it's "fine". I'm sure most sane people really wish Hamas hadn't done what they did and started all this.

Exactly.

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Echobelly · 30/01/2026 10:42

cantankerousoldcrone · 29/01/2026 22:57

I mean, if the IDF say so, it must be true.

I'm Jewish and I don't trust the IDF's figures in anything any more than I do those of Hamas.

Regardless of exact numbers who died as a result of keeping food from Palestinians, the very doing of it is utterly abominable. It falls way outside of any reasonable act of retribution, let alone 'defence' and was guaranteed to harm to most vulnerable.

Boolabus · 30/01/2026 10:56

None of this is clear yet. The BBC article states:

Now a senior military source has indicated to Israeli journalists, including those from Haaretz and the Times of Israel, that the total number given by the Hamas health ministry is largely accurate, even though they have not been able to break down how many were combatants and how many died as a direct result of the fighting.
Following the latest Israeli media reports, a military official said the details published did not reflect official IDF data.
"Any publication or report on this matter will be released through official and orderly channels," the IDF official said.

So to even suggest that none died from starvation is absolute rubbish and speculation

the people who died from from starvation that were paraded in front of the world's media for propaganda purposes - yes @Twiglets1 disgusting that this had be done in order for people to wake up and demand more aid was let in, smh.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpd1x00exo

Three young people watch a fourth who is sifting through the rubble of a residential area

Israeli media cite official accepting Hamas figure of 70,000 war dead

Israel has previously cast doubt on figures from the Hamas-run health ministry, which the UN considers reliable.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpd1x00exo

Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 11:06

@Boolabus the issue of how many were combatants and how many were civilians is one where we don’t know the breakdown yet.

However that doesn’t affect the IDF saying no healthy Gazans died from starvation. Or us being able to verify that with our own eyes when we see images of people from Gaza.

Hamas are good at propaganda I’ll give them that.

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Boolabus · 30/01/2026 11:11

Twiglets1 · 30/01/2026 11:06

@Boolabus the issue of how many were combatants and how many were civilians is one where we don’t know the breakdown yet.

However that doesn’t affect the IDF saying no healthy Gazans died from starvation. Or us being able to verify that with our own eyes when we see images of people from Gaza.

Hamas are good at propaganda I’ll give them that.

However that doesn’t affect the IDF saying no healthy Gazans died from starvation.

How can they say that at this stage though, have they carried out post mortems? did they know the health status of those that died before they died? Can they predict how malnutrition may impact the health and mortality of children going forward?
They can't determine who was or wasn't a combatant but know how they died, pull the other one....

SpaceRaccoon · 30/01/2026 11:13

Boolabus · 30/01/2026 11:11

However that doesn’t affect the IDF saying no healthy Gazans died from starvation.

How can they say that at this stage though, have they carried out post mortems? did they know the health status of those that died before they died? Can they predict how malnutrition may impact the health and mortality of children going forward?
They can't determine who was or wasn't a combatant but know how they died, pull the other one....

There were no images of starving adults or healthy children emerging at all - if they had they'd have been very widely disseminated. Hamas hasn't ever let any human suffering go to waste when it can serve as a propaganda tool.

TulipLavender · 30/01/2026 12:40

I'd believe a bag of talking poo more than anything from the IDF - have they run out of dead women's knickers to put on?

mids2019 · 30/01/2026 17:47

If the IDF were truly genocidal maniacs they should learn from Iran. 30 000 dead in days and no air force.

Can we keep perpesective?

Martymcfly24 · 30/01/2026 17:57

mids2019 · 30/01/2026 17:47

If the IDF were truly genocidal maniacs they should learn from Iran. 30 000 dead in days and no air force.

Can we keep perpesective?

How do you know that?

FairPearlSnake · 30/01/2026 19:17

mids2019 · 30/01/2026 17:47

If the IDF were truly genocidal maniacs they should learn from Iran. 30 000 dead in days and no air force.

Can we keep perpesective?

Yes, no one knows for sure. How do we keep perspective, when we are as much in the dark as Iran is?

Boolabus · 30/01/2026 20:46

mids2019 · 30/01/2026 17:47

If the IDF were truly genocidal maniacs they should learn from Iran. 30 000 dead in days and no air force.

Can we keep perpesective?

What a crass comment. Maybe direct your question to the poster who started the thread and stop criticising people for commenting on the thread.

crazeekat · 30/01/2026 20:54

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SpaceRaccoon · 30/01/2026 20:57

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None of us here started this war though did we?

FairPearlSnake · 30/01/2026 20:59

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I think some of is know lots about what is going on. Believe it or not, some of us have even lived in some of these countries. We are not all sitting in Surrey bashing our keyboards.

FairPearlSnake · 30/01/2026 21:10

Or Israel.

KarenWheeler · 30/01/2026 21:49

cantankerousoldcrone · 29/01/2026 22:57

I mean, if the IDF say so, it must be true.

Yet you’ll happily believe any old shit fee to you by Hamas?

Martymcfly24 · 30/01/2026 21:52

KarenWheeler · 30/01/2026 21:49

Yet you’ll happily believe any old shit fee to you by Hamas?

The both can be true to be fair. Neither cover themselves in glory where the truth is concerned.