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IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

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Twiglets1 · 29/01/2026 14:33

Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

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Beachtastic · 05/02/2026 15:58

moderate · 05/02/2026 15:31

I mean you, @Twiglets1! (Apologies if I have made an incorrect assumption.)

People with a set of beliefs that are challenged by robust rebuttals (such as yours) experience cognitive dissonance, which is uncomfortable and therefore "exhausting" for them.

Apologies too if I got the wrong end of the stick, but this is even more confusing!

Francine84 · 05/02/2026 15:59

Oh the IDF have said this? Then it must be true! Why would they lie? Israel would certainly admit it if they were starving thousands of children as well as gunning them down on their own land. Oh wait..

moderate · 05/02/2026 16:15

Clearly I am the one who should be apologising, given that my wording gave the wrong impression to several people! Sorry about that.

I mean that @Twiglets1 was causing cognitive dissonance in some of her interlocutors (because her arguments highlight the inconsistencies in their positions, but they have an emotional connection to those positions and therefore can't bring themselves to re-evaluate).

I think perhaps the word "exercising" was unhelpful; I just used it because it tied in with "exhausting"!

Notrurno · 05/02/2026 16:20

Summerhillsquare · 30/01/2026 05:00

It's one of the most appalling periods in the history of human civilization. And even more appallingly, will only lead to more bloodshed.

Eh....

Can I introduce you to Iran (30,000+ people killed for simply protesting against the government over TWO days), Yemen (a quarter of a million people starved to death in 2018 alone - 85,000 of them children), Sudan (a REAL genocide raging currently, the blood-spatters visible from space), Nigeria (where mass kidnappings, ethnic violence, and terrorist attacks have become so routine they barely make international news), Syria (where young Kurdish girls are being thrown off buildings for the entertainment of al-Jolani's thugs)...

And it’s not like Israel was defending itself from a totalitarian death cult that’s been firing rockets at Jewish civilians nonstop since 2006 or anything… we’ll just ignore the fact that, over that same period, Hamas has turned Gaza into an integrated, weaponised landscape for the sole purpose of destroying Israel, and then used it as a launchpad to carry out the bloodiest and most barbaric attack against Jews since the Holocaust. And we'll definitely turn a blind eye to the fact that October 7th's execution wouldn't have been possible without the buy-in, help, and practical support of....(checks notes)... ordinary Gazan civilians.

Say what you like about Israelis. They don't store RPGs in their own children's bedrooms. They build bomb shelters to protect their children instead.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 16:26

Thank you @moderate

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PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 16:36

Notrurno · 05/02/2026 16:20

Eh....

Can I introduce you to Iran (30,000+ people killed for simply protesting against the government over TWO days), Yemen (a quarter of a million people starved to death in 2018 alone - 85,000 of them children), Sudan (a REAL genocide raging currently, the blood-spatters visible from space), Nigeria (where mass kidnappings, ethnic violence, and terrorist attacks have become so routine they barely make international news), Syria (where young Kurdish girls are being thrown off buildings for the entertainment of al-Jolani's thugs)...

And it’s not like Israel was defending itself from a totalitarian death cult that’s been firing rockets at Jewish civilians nonstop since 2006 or anything… we’ll just ignore the fact that, over that same period, Hamas has turned Gaza into an integrated, weaponised landscape for the sole purpose of destroying Israel, and then used it as a launchpad to carry out the bloodiest and most barbaric attack against Jews since the Holocaust. And we'll definitely turn a blind eye to the fact that October 7th's execution wouldn't have been possible without the buy-in, help, and practical support of....(checks notes)... ordinary Gazan civilians.

Say what you like about Israelis. They don't store RPGs in their own children's bedrooms. They build bomb shelters to protect their children instead.

So with all of that going on you could say it is one of the most appalling periods in the history of human civilisation no? Whats happening in Gaza included in all of that.

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 18:06

PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 16:36

So with all of that going on you could say it is one of the most appalling periods in the history of human civilisation no? Whats happening in Gaza included in all of that.

It’s really quite horrific.

There have been terrible historical events in the past, but as a human race, we were meant to moved past this. There was a reason for the Geneva Convention, but there appears to be flagrant disregard for this.

We are worse than animals.

The disregard or minimisation of suffering of others is appalling - whether they be in Tel Aviv or in Gaza. One does not forgive the other.

No one sane would doubt the suffering on 7/10, but I have yet to get a response to figures I have quoted on the level of death, injury and suffering in Gaza. Only diversion on minor points.

moderate · 05/02/2026 18:09

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PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 18:28

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How do you know what I am doing?

Ihatetomatoes · 05/02/2026 19:22

Notrurno · 05/02/2026 16:20

Eh....

Can I introduce you to Iran (30,000+ people killed for simply protesting against the government over TWO days), Yemen (a quarter of a million people starved to death in 2018 alone - 85,000 of them children), Sudan (a REAL genocide raging currently, the blood-spatters visible from space), Nigeria (where mass kidnappings, ethnic violence, and terrorist attacks have become so routine they barely make international news), Syria (where young Kurdish girls are being thrown off buildings for the entertainment of al-Jolani's thugs)...

And it’s not like Israel was defending itself from a totalitarian death cult that’s been firing rockets at Jewish civilians nonstop since 2006 or anything… we’ll just ignore the fact that, over that same period, Hamas has turned Gaza into an integrated, weaponised landscape for the sole purpose of destroying Israel, and then used it as a launchpad to carry out the bloodiest and most barbaric attack against Jews since the Holocaust. And we'll definitely turn a blind eye to the fact that October 7th's execution wouldn't have been possible without the buy-in, help, and practical support of....(checks notes)... ordinary Gazan civilians.

Say what you like about Israelis. They don't store RPGs in their own children's bedrooms. They build bomb shelters to protect their children instead.

Inconvenient truths to many. Facts don't go down too well. All those 'others' pass on by. It's only Gaza that the obsessed follow, total silence on any humanitarian crisis elsewhere 🙄

Ihatetomatoes · 05/02/2026 19:26

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 18:06

It’s really quite horrific.

There have been terrible historical events in the past, but as a human race, we were meant to moved past this. There was a reason for the Geneva Convention, but there appears to be flagrant disregard for this.

We are worse than animals.

The disregard or minimisation of suffering of others is appalling - whether they be in Tel Aviv or in Gaza. One does not forgive the other.

No one sane would doubt the suffering on 7/10, but I have yet to get a response to figures I have quoted on the level of death, injury and suffering in Gaza. Only diversion on minor points.

Lots of people died during the conflict, it's really awful. Conflicts are awful. Terrorist attacks are awful. When terrorist attacks are designed to provoke an attack on their own people it's unforgivable. Hopefully, Hamas will lay down arms and Gaza can rebuild 🤞and everyone can live in peace.

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 19:30

Ihatetomatoes · 05/02/2026 19:26

Lots of people died during the conflict, it's really awful. Conflicts are awful. Terrorist attacks are awful. When terrorist attacks are designed to provoke an attack on their own people it's unforgivable. Hopefully, Hamas will lay down arms and Gaza can rebuild 🤞and everyone can live in peace.

Hamas need to lay down their arms.

I hope that the Palestinians will be able to overcome what has happened to them. I hope they also get legal acknowledgment of any war crimes committed against them.

The Palestinians, as well as Israelis, need a safe place to live and both need governments that recognise the rights of their neighbours - including in the West Bank.

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 19:32

I see both the U.S. and Israel are attempting to impede the investigations of potential war crimes against the Palestinians in Gaza.

moderate · 05/02/2026 19:46

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PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 19:49

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All because I said with all of those things happening around the world ( all the atrocities you named in your reply to whoever you were replying to) could be classed as one of the most appalling periods in history but also include Gaza in that? You think you know what I do and who I am? Calm down hun

sorry the atrocities @Notrurno listed, and then you’ve jumped on me 🙄🙄

moderate · 05/02/2026 19:59

PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 19:49

All because I said with all of those things happening around the world ( all the atrocities you named in your reply to whoever you were replying to) could be classed as one of the most appalling periods in history but also include Gaza in that? You think you know what I do and who I am? Calm down hun

sorry the atrocities @Notrurno listed, and then you’ve jumped on me 🙄🙄

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I ask again: who do you think you're fooling?

If you had actually made a habit of caring about those other atrocities as much as you care about Gaza, you would have simply said so, instead of attempting this "you don't know me" diversion.

PevenseygirlQQ · 05/02/2026 20:03

moderate · 05/02/2026 19:59

I ask again: who do you think you're fooling?

If you had actually made a habit of caring about those other atrocities as much as you care about Gaza, you would have simply said so, instead of attempting this "you don't know me" diversion.

Who would I be trying to fool?

I said what I said.

I wasn’t saying any one situation is worse or better than the other I was simply agreeing with a previous poster that the could the most appalling time in history but I would also include the Gaza war in that as well, all the things happening combined make it an appalling time…..

Good grief

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