IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

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Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

Exactly. People consistently overlook this basic point. They seem to equate Iranian civilians protesting their evil government with Hamas who are the evil government, and aligned with the Iranian government.

"completely innocent civilians"

So are Palestinians.

But when they were murdered yesterday they were collateral damage.

Yeah no hypocrisy here at all.

All Palestinians arent completely innocent though are they? Many are Hamas. Their Hamas government started a war. Its a completely different situation.

According to Israeli figures in October 2023 around 1% of Palestinians were members of Hamas it's down to about 0.6% now.

But at least you're saying the quiet part out loud that it's their own fault.

It's well known that a lot of civilians in Gaza support Hamas. You can ignore it all you want but don't expect everyone else to turn a blind eye to that inconvenient truth. Whereas none of the Iranian protestors will presumably be supporting their authoritarian, murderous regime.

And repeating "collateral damage" doesn't change a thing. I already said the fact that women & children also getting killed in the attacks yesterday is a terrible thing.

No, that's not what I said is it? Not at all. Don't twist. I said the context was different.

It depends what you mean by 'Hamas'. 'Membership' is a deliberately narrow and obfuscating category. All the evidence that I know of suggests that until recently a very large proportion of Palestinians supported the Hamas government and an awful lot of people (thousands) were directly involved or colluded with 7 October. That's changing as far as we can tell.

But the war in Gaza is a completely different context to Iran.

Where did you get your information they came towards the IDF in a threatening manner?

The strikes were in 7 different locations.

It is but yet every second post on the Iran threads is calling out "Pro Pals" , and the humanity (there was one this morning)which was actually the point of my post .

I would also add that the pro-Pal movement is doing the ordinary Palestinians no favours in not more actively supporting the Palestinians who are anti-Hamas. People marching yesterday in favour of the Islamic Republic and Hezbollah - and by extension Hamas - are no friends to Palestinian civilians. If you're looking for hypocrisy, look there.

And how would they do that in practical terms.

What about all the Palestinians that support Hamas?

December 2024 Palestinian Centre for Policy Survey & Research (PCPSR): Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct, and the ensuing Gaza war has lifted support for the Islamist group both there and in the West Bank.

By October 2025 support for Hamas actions had diminished somewhat but still About 70 percent of Palestinians polled across the occupied West Bank and Gaza say they staunchly oppose the disarmament of Hamas, even if that means a return to Israeli attacks, according to a poll conducted by the Palestinian Centre for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) between 22-25 October and published on Tuesday.

With the ceasefire now signed, 53 percent of Palestinians said 7 October 2023 was “correct”. Support for the Hamas-led operation was substantially higher in the occupied West Bank, where 59 percent of respondents called it “correct” compared to 44 percent in Gaza.

www.middleeasteye.net/news/overwhelming-majority-palestinians-oppose-hamas-disarmament-poll-finds
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Its what a lot of Iranians are saying too, as Im sure you know. Many of them are ardent pro-Palestinians (though many are also very pro-Israel) and have been expressing their shock at the lack of support from the pro-Pal establishment.

Seriously? You have been following this conflict so closely and haven't thought about how to support anti Hamas civilians?

No talk me through it.

So you're saying there were no possible operational reasons for the strikes? Israel just randomly blows up civilians for shits n giggles because they're evil?

I absolutely defer to your expertise. Maybe contact the PSC and ask them what they are doing to free the Palestinian people from Hamas, and the Islamic Republic for that matter. Look forward to you reporting back.

Yes.

It's a ceasefire.

You don't know so .

Just say that.

Thanks for clarifying.

I don't 'know'. Nobody 'knows' but I have lots of ideas. I am completely gobsmacked that you dont. Hamas has been in charge for 20 odd years and you claim to be pro-Palestinian but havent thought about how to free Palestinians from Hamas? I mean really????

I don't get the impression pro-Palestinians have any sort of problem with Hamas tbh. Only Israel is evil and has agency, and carries blame.
I think as well as the antisemitism aspect, it's actually racist. They erroneously view Israelis as white and Palestinians as brown, and in their minds they are therefore not capable of the same level of agency.

I did read it somewhere but can't find it now. In any case, they were Hamas terrorists so it's fair to assume that their intentions towards the IDF would be to kill them if they got the chance. It's nice how you defend Hamas though if anyone uses hurty words against them.

The IDF said Sunday that four Palestinian terrorists were killed overnight after emerging from a tunnel route in Rafah, as forces continue operations against Hamas operatives entrenched in the underground network in southern Gaza.

In a statement, the military said troops, guided by the Air Force, identified the men exiting a subterranean passage and eliminated them.

According to the IDF’s assessment, the four may include the Hamas battalion commander in Rafah’s Janina neighborhood, his deputy and a company commander. Their identities are still under verification.

The military said roughly 40 terrorists have been killed in the area in recent weeks as they attempted to flee tunnels in southern Gaza. Southern Command forces “remain deployed in accordance with the ceasefire agreement and will continue to operate to remove any immediate threat,” the IDF said.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk5uwtywwx

Yes, we have had that issue on citme consistently. The racism of low expectations & just thinking of Palestinians as an abstract cause, not really people.

That's the narrative some like to promote. In reality, there were operational reasons for the strikes.

The Israel Defense Forces said its strikes targeted four commanders in the Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror groups, as well as a weapons depot, an arms manufacturing site and two rocket launching positions.

www.timesofisrael.com/at-least-28-gazans-said-killed-in-wave-of-strikes-as-idf-responds-to-truce-violation/

Tell me your ideas so.