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Conflict in the Middle East

IDF confirms some 70,000 Gazans died in war, none from starvation.

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Twiglets1 · 29/01/2026 14:33

Article in The Jerusalem Post:

The IDF, for the first time on Wednesday, confirmed that approximately 70,000 Gazans were killed during the Israel-Hamas War, while disputing the percentage of civilian deaths claimed by the UN and declaring that no healthy persons died from starvation.

While various international groups have claimed that the overwhelming majority of those who died were civilians, the IDF continues to contest that number and has said that around 25,000 were Hamas terrorists. Further, the IDF has presented evidence that, through early 2024 – the period when Hamas was firing large daily rocket salvos – around 13% of their rockets were misfires, leading to the killing of many Palestinians.

There have also been other periods of time where Hamas executed large numbers of Palestinians whom it viewed as political opponents or civilians whom it was trying to prevent from fleeing an area that the IDF said needed to be evacuated. While the IDF said on Thursday that it is working on a fuller evaluation of the breakdown of civilians to combatants and estimates of those killed by Hamas, no Israeli official has provided a set estimate on that to date.

No date was given for when this breakdown will be publicized, suggesting that it will not be in the near future.

Estimates by international organizations and some media have said that as many as around 450 Palestinians have died of starvation, but the IDF on Thursday said these numbers are a mix of fake statistics or include persons who suffered from dangerous health conditions prior to the war.

IDF sources noted cases where they spoke to humanitarian aid officials who claimed that two specific children had died, but the military was able to quickly establish that they were actually still alive.

There were also multiple other cases in which the global media graphically documented children whose bodies appeared contorted and who eventually died, with the military later clarifying that they had serious pre-war health conditions that had already caused their distorted-looking appearance.

The IDF has not given a more detailed, comprehensive counter-claim regarding the list of persons the UN claims starved to death, but is expected to give significant information confidentially to the International Court of Justice on March 12.

More broadly, the IDF has said that UN aid officials in the field have admitted that their headquarters political bosses invented or exaggerated the food insecurity in Gaza in order to pressure Israel into ending the war earlier. IDF officials have also admitted that there was a food insecurity crisis in July-August 2025, but said they acted rapidly enough at the time in increasing the volume of food aid trucks to avoid a starvation crisis.

According to the IDF, throughout the war, 112,000 aid trucks were brought into Gaza, including 1,700,000 tons of food, as well as 1,800,000 tents and tarpaulin covers. During this time, 600,000 children received polio vaccinations.

Currently, 16 field hospitals are operating, and over the course of the war, 9,600 tons of medical items have been brought into Gaza.

During the same period, 5,000 international aid workers entered the Strip, while 42,000 Gazans exited to a third country to receive health treatment or travel using their dual citizenship status.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-884905

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Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 08:37

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 08:32

you did say it was unlikely. You said In some cases, some teenagers may be combatants - but most likely not.

No one suggested it would be all of them.

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Ah we agree!

It is clear that the majority of those killed in this war were children, women and the elderly - given accepted figures, suggesting the majority killed were civilians.

Beachtastic · 05/02/2026 08:40

I'm sure Israel could have done a much better job of differentiating civilians if Hamas hadn't disguised themselves as civilians. The fact that we are all still guessing shows just how impossible it was.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 08:43

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 08:37

Ah we agree!

It is clear that the majority of those killed in this war were children, women and the elderly - given accepted figures, suggesting the majority killed were civilians.

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We do agree that the majority killed were civilians yes. That was inevitable because Hamas have underground tunnels to hide in that they don't let civilians hide in and also because they fight in densely populated urban areas.

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Boolabus · 05/02/2026 09:13

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 08:12

No because it has been discussed extensively elsewhere and I'm not wasting time rehashing old ground even if you want to because you're scraping around to keep the Gaza war at the top of the agenda when most people more worried about what is happening in Iran at the moment.

you're scraping around to keep the Gaza war at the top of the agenda when most people more worried about what is happening in Iran at the moment.

So on a thread you started about Gaza you are cirticising posters for discussing .....Gaza! I have heard it all now

Ellen2shoes · 05/02/2026 09:19

@Twiglets1 Who is scraping around? Your post, not mine. My link is current.

Because keeping threads at the top of the agenda may be your reason for posting, don’t assume it’s mine.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 09:25

The thread title was in the news being reported widely, unlike old stuff being rehashed.

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inamarina · 05/02/2026 09:49

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 08:31

I didn’t say it wasn’t.

But all of them?

To consider the number who were combatants would even be a significant figure of the over 20,000 children killed speaks to the dehumanisation of Palestinians.

You said: “In some cases, some teenagers may be combatants - but most likely not.” So most likely not i.e. unlikely.
Nobody claimed it was all of them.

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 10:31

inamarina · 05/02/2026 09:49

You said: “In some cases, some teenagers may be combatants - but most likely not.” So most likely not i.e. unlikely.
Nobody claimed it was all of them.

we agree!

It is appalling the tens of thousands of innocent people killed.

More 10% of the population killed or injured.

We are talking of hundreds of thousands of people now!

Genocide?

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 10:36

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 10:31

we agree!

It is appalling the tens of thousands of innocent people killed.

More 10% of the population killed or injured.

We are talking of hundreds of thousands of people now!

Genocide?

Your comprehension skills could do with sharpening up. I was not agreeing with you earlier and neither is this poster.

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Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 10:39

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 10:36

Your comprehension skills could do with sharpening up. I was not agreeing with you earlier and neither is this poster.

I have acknowledged we agree!
I am not sure it’s my comprehension that is the main concern here but the number of innocent people killed or injured.

Please can we return to this uncomfortable topic?

moderate · 05/02/2026 10:47

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 10:39

I have acknowledged we agree!
I am not sure it’s my comprehension that is the main concern here but the number of innocent people killed or injured.

Please can we return to this uncomfortable topic?

> I have acknowledged we agree!

Do you mean you have acknowledged that you DISagree?

Honestly, your inability to either say what you mean, or comprehend what other people are saying, or both, makes conversation with you pretty meaningless.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 10:58

moderate · 05/02/2026 10:47

> I have acknowledged we agree!

Do you mean you have acknowledged that you DISagree?

Honestly, your inability to either say what you mean, or comprehend what other people are saying, or both, makes conversation with you pretty meaningless.

Exactly ... talking nonsense about we agree when we plainly don't is not helpful to any discussion.

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explanationplease · 05/02/2026 12:10

Honestly @Twiglets1you are exhausting and beyond convincing.

inamarina · 05/02/2026 12:57

explanationplease · 05/02/2026 12:10

Honestly @Twiglets1you are exhausting and beyond convincing.

How is she exhausting?

moderate · 05/02/2026 13:02

inamarina · 05/02/2026 12:57

How is she exhausting?

She’s exercising the cognitive dissonance of people who haven’t really thought very closely about these issues.

Beachtastic · 05/02/2026 13:58

moderate · 05/02/2026 13:02

She’s exercising the cognitive dissonance of people who haven’t really thought very closely about these issues.

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You mean she disagrees with YOU.

inamarina · 05/02/2026 14:34

moderate · 05/02/2026 13:02

She’s exercising the cognitive dissonance of people who haven’t really thought very closely about these issues.

Again, how?

moderate · 05/02/2026 14:39

Beachtastic · 05/02/2026 13:58

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You mean she disagrees with YOU.

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How do you arrive at that conclusion?

moderate · 05/02/2026 14:39

inamarina · 05/02/2026 14:34

Again, how?

By pointing out all the ways in which their beliefs don't add up.

Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 14:54

moderate · 05/02/2026 10:47

> I have acknowledged we agree!

Do you mean you have acknowledged that you DISagree?

Honestly, your inability to either say what you mean, or comprehend what other people are saying, or both, makes conversation with you pretty meaningless.

What is it that I disagree with?

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 15:01

moderate · 05/02/2026 13:02

She’s exercising the cognitive dissonance of people who haven’t really thought very closely about these issues.

Who do you mean by "she" @moderate ?

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Islandsofsand · 05/02/2026 15:05

To be clear of my thoughts

There seems to be agreement that the Hamas health ministry reported deaths were accurate and exceed 70,000 not including those who are still buried under rubble.

Last year, a report from Israel suggested that 10% of the Gazan population had been killed or injured. That would be at least 200,000 people - which seems to tally with the Lancet report in direct and indirect deaths.

The number of children killed exceeds 20,000- which does not include those who have been maimed, orphaned or had loved ones killed.

Most of those killed were children, women and elderly and therefore mostly non combatants which also fits in with 80% civilian death rate suggested also by the IDF database.

moderate · 05/02/2026 15:31

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 15:01

Who do you mean by "she" @moderate ?

I mean you, @Twiglets1! (Apologies if I have made an incorrect assumption.)

People with a set of beliefs that are challenged by robust rebuttals (such as yours) experience cognitive dissonance, which is uncomfortable and therefore "exhausting" for them.

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 15:45

No your assumption was correct.

I think your post reads as if I'm the one with cognitive dissonance but I don't think that's what you meant to imply (unless I've got muddled).

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inamarina · 05/02/2026 15:53

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 15:45

No your assumption was correct.

I think your post reads as if I'm the one with cognitive dissonance but I don't think that's what you meant to imply (unless I've got muddled).

I think I also misinterpreted your posts @moderate, apologies!