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Conflict in the Middle East

Why aren't women and children being evacuated from gaza?

193 replies

AutumnFog · 24/07/2025 02:40

I've just seen horrific photos of starving children on a news article. Why on earth are we not evacuating them? The population isn't huge, if split between many countries the cost of supporting them would be minimal compared to other expenditure.
I don't understand how it's been left to get to this point without anyone intervening, or really how everyone hasn't intervened.
Who cares about the land at this point, these are children who are likely to die by the look of them, who could live a happy healthy life somewhere else.

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Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:21

Huh? When hamas started this war? Pick up a history book please.

Which one have you been reading?

GrammarTeacher · 24/07/2025 17:26

Young people with university offers in the UK aren’t being allowed in by our government (several Cambridge Colleges lobbying on their behalf at the moment). I wouldn’t know whether there is also a problem leaving but I suspect given the situation that it is difficult to leave Gaza now. In these situations it becomes harder and harder to leave. All borders are closed. There are no embassies to approach. How exactly would they go about leaving? Head to a check point and ask nicely?

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:26

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

Which one have you been reading?

I think we all know this didn’t just start on October 7th 🙄🙄

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:29

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:26

I think we all know this didn’t just start on October 7th 🙄🙄

I know it didn't. I also know it didn't start in 1948.

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:29

The starving children thing has already been debunked. It’s Palestinian propaganda. They basically put children who have cancer in front of the camera and make them say things for the footage. I saw it on YouTube.

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:32

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:29

The starving children thing has already been debunked. It’s Palestinian propaganda. They basically put children who have cancer in front of the camera and make them say things for the footage. I saw it on YouTube.

I’ve seen “footage” of bigfoot on Youtube doesn’t mean it’s real, nothing is debunked by a Youtube video. Children are starving and dying from starvation, amongst a plethora of other things.

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:33

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

Which one have you been reading?

See what Norman Finkelstein has said/written. His parents were actual Holocaust survivors. That could be a good starting point.

BorgQueen · 24/07/2025 17:38

If, big if, children are starving- it’s down to Hamas stealing the aid and it ends up on market stalls at inflated prices.
Hamas DON’T want a ceasefire, they would happily martyr every single Woman child for their ‘cause’.

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:41

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

Trust the UN? Oh please. As for the BBC, Gaza documentary and the antics at Glastonbury? They are completely biased.

notimagain · 24/07/2025 17:43

"Black September" ring any bells?

Might just explain why Jordan has seemingly been reluctant to take refugees.

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:44

Humanitarian organizations have said there is no evidence tying significant diversion of aid to Hamas, and Israel has presented none publicly. But it is those claims that have prompted Israel to seek to replace traditional humanitarian organizations with GHF, which they said would prevent Hamas from obtaining the aid.

soddingspiderseason · 24/07/2025 17:44

I think a good question is why doesn’t Egypt open its border with Gaza? They could offer safe asylum for Gazans. I’m sure that would be acceptable to Israel. So why is there no analysis of why this isn't happening? It seems the most logical solution.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:45

notimagain · 24/07/2025 17:43

"Black September" ring any bells?

Might just explain why Jordan has seemingly been reluctant to take refugees.

If they didn't know how to pin point Gaza on a map prior 7/10, you've got no chance with Black September!

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/07/2025 17:45

starpatch · 24/07/2025 07:36

Israel literally won't let Palestinians leave Gaza.

This.

But also if Palestinians leave they lose the right to return to their land. Then there’s issues around being stateless (passports etc).

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:46

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

Okay, then check out the YouTube channel travelingisrael.com with the video titled “Palestinian propaganda exposed. The Gaza victim videos are fake”
The guy doesn’t strike me as a liar.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:47

soddingspiderseason · 24/07/2025 17:44

I think a good question is why doesn’t Egypt open its border with Gaza? They could offer safe asylum for Gazans. I’m sure that would be acceptable to Israel. So why is there no analysis of why this isn't happening? It seems the most logical solution.

The truth is too uncomfortable and would destabilise the new hate for Israel. The wheels on the bandwagon would soon come rolling off. Then again, I think some are just too entrenched now. They've swallowed the narrative, hook line and sinker.

Tfmrhelpafterwards · 24/07/2025 17:47

starpatch · 24/07/2025 07:36

Israel literally won't let Palestinians leave Gaza.

We were quick enough to get Ukrainians in need over here. What would actually happen if KS told Israel he was sending a plane to evacuate some women and children ? Would they actually stop us doing that ?

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:48

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:46

Okay, then check out the YouTube channel travelingisrael.com with the video titled “Palestinian propaganda exposed. The Gaza victim videos are fake”
The guy doesn’t strike me as a liar.

Lol, it’s Israeli propaganda…..

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:54

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:33

See what Norman Finkelstein has said/written. His parents were actual Holocaust survivors. That could be a good starting point.

That's interesting, because when Mosab Hassan Yousef talks of his Palestinian experience, he's not believed. Funny that.

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 18:00

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:54

That's interesting, because when Mosab Hassan Yousef talks of his Palestinian experience, he's not believed. Funny that.

I deliberately chose a Jewish writer whose parents were Holocaust survivors to show no bias.

Thanks I’ll have a read of what Mosab the known Israeli spy has to say.

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 18:02

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:48

Lol, it’s Israeli propaganda…..

😅
Truth hurts?

notimagain · 24/07/2025 18:02

Tfmrhelpafterwards · 24/07/2025 17:47

We were quick enough to get Ukrainians in need over here. What would actually happen if KS told Israel he was sending a plane to evacuate some women and children ? Would they actually stop us doing that ?

Well of course the first ptoblem is Gaza hasn't got an airport, so the first practical issue is would Israel or one of it's neighbours (e.g. Egypt) allow use of one of their's and also allow safe passage of refugees

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 18:06

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 18:00

I deliberately chose a Jewish writer whose parents were Holocaust survivors to show no bias.

Thanks I’ll have a read of what Mosab the known Israeli spy has to say.

Your last sentence, reaffirms what I said. You also think all Jews agree with the Marxist, Finkelstein, who demonises Israel? I bet you wouldn't have shown interest, otherwise. The holocaust isn't some political football.

BoredZelda · 24/07/2025 18:08

BorgQueen · 24/07/2025 17:38

If, big if, children are starving- it’s down to Hamas stealing the aid and it ends up on market stalls at inflated prices.
Hamas DON’T want a ceasefire, they would happily martyr every single Woman child for their ‘cause’.

I wish people would get their stories straight. First the UN are refusing to distribute the aid, now Hamas are stealing it. What next, a bigger boy did it and ran away?