AIBU to be glad Lammy is taking a stance on Gaza?

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Whatever you think about Hamas - October 7th was an abomination - but surely it's been enough for some time now?

Indeed! I think in amongst the darkness of war, those on both sides who are fighting for peace often get overlooked.

Do you understand what the definition of genocide is? If you did then you wouldn't be making such embarrassing comments.

Yes I do

Clearly you don't if you think there has to be no civilians left alive to constitute a genocide. Google is your friend here.

You know exactly what I mean so don’t even attempt to suggest I’m denying that 7 October was horrific.

I asked you what the false narrative you referred to was. I'm still interested to hear that? Thats how these internet forum things work isn't it?

Fine, I’ll bite.

Claim of 40 beheaded babies is just one example.

We will definitely see them next Tuesday.

Ah OK. I haven't seen anyone refer to that to draw conclusions about Palestinians on here though?

No biggie, as you were.

Didn’t realise I needed your permission.

@BreezyBertha If there is no starvation in Gaza why did Netanyahu say they would need to let in aid to stop Gaza sinking into famine for diplomatic and practical reasons as their allies would not tolerate images of mass starvation.

Anyway, I don’t know why I bother.

Carry on making thinly veiled personal attacks towards people who don’t ascribe to your narrative, which is far from fact.

That rather shows your mentality, not mine, and explains why other people, who actually understand what’s going on, don’t bother to post on this board for fear of being demonised in the same way.

Thinly veiled attacks? After some of the utterly inhumane comments on here, other MN threads, and in linked material?

There are some attitudes that are just too evil for words. That’s not a veiled attack at all - that’s overt disgust

In Oct 23 we were told there were 20,000 - 30,000 Hamas fighters.

How is it there are still apparently so many left?

Something about Israel’s policy must not be working.

If Israel are ethnic cleansing how come over 2m Arabs living and working in Israel?

For the hard of understanding they are referring to ethnic cleansing in GAZA. Netanyahu made a speech yesterday saying Israel will not end the war until they agree to leave Gaza. Those are the ones who haven't been killed yet.

Netanyahu made a speech yesterday saying Israel will not end the war until they agree to leave Gaza….. thank god, it’s up to hammas then as it always has been

He is always adding on another demand every time they get close to an agreement or even during an agreement.

Not just Hamas as you know if you heard the speech. But for Palestinians to accept Trump's plan. I'm sure you know what that is.

Tbf, the “Trump plan” wasn’t originally his plan. The Israeli government has been floating it for over a year. Biden verbally pretended not to support it. Trump has been openly and honestly supporting it.

Since Oct 2023, only weeks after Oct 7th, Israeli government officials have been calling for mass expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza.
https://carnegieendowment.org/sada/2023/10/south-into-the-sinai-will-israel-force-palestinians-out-of-gaza?lang=en

this article has references and links to the statements by various Israeli officials.

There have also been written reports as far back as 17 October 2023 putting forth the plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza:
“On October 17, the Misgav Institute for National Security and Zionist Strategy—an Israeli think tank founded and led by former defense and security officials—published a paper urging the Israeli government to take advantage of the “unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the whole Gaza Strip,” and resettle Palestinians in Cairo with the assistance of the Egyptian government. Separately, a leaked document from the Israeli Intelligence Ministry recommended forcibly resettling 2.2 million Palestinians from Gaza in the Northern Sinai and constructing a buffer zone along the Israeli border to prevent their return.”

Since before October 7th !
In September 2023 Netanyahu spoke of it at the United Nations General Assembly

I know. They actually live among us 😳