AIBU to be glad Lammy is taking a stance on Gaza?

[Locutus2000]

Whatever you think about Hamas - October 7th was an abomination - but surely it's been enough for some time now?

Evidence of starvation?

There has been hysteria over famine and starvation since the start of this war. There is yet to be evidence of it.

I mean after all, it’s a ‘genocide’ isn’t it. After a year and half of ‘genocide’ there surely can’t be that many people left to feed if that was true?

It is so interesting from a psychology POV, that there are so many people whose hatred of the Jewish people enables their brains to defy all the logic and intellect they may usually possess.

Oh fuck, the level of delusional is insane when posters are still denying starvation that even the IDF have acknowledged.

@Martymcfly24 There's no point even trying.

@BreezyBertha give your head a wobble it's just getting embarrassing now. You can support Israel whilst not trying to deny the obvious. Many other posters who are pro-Israel on this board manage to do so.

Where is the evidence? With the SM videos pouring out of Gaza on a daily basis. I’d expect to see at least some.

I'm not even going to. I fell into that trap the other night and I won't again.

I'm sure @BreezyBertha knows much more than the UN, Save the Children, Netanyahu himself and most international governments and leaders.

Absolutely delusion! And more fool them, Hasbara posts like that are being archived and amplified (mostly by the far right) and they're currently being used by actual Nazis as proof to why certain actions that took place last century were justified. FFS Kanye West currently has a song with over 10 million streams containing part of a Hitler speech.

This is just gaslighting on a massive, massive scale. It’s like arguing with flat-earthers

Sickening argument that if you care about the genocide you’re pro Hamas.

So sickening that the moderators should ban that super deceitful and deliberate attempt to silent any concern for those poor people being starved to death and defend it.

It’s a ridiculous argument. I’m definitely and absolutely not pro Hamas and I’m sickened by the killing and death. And the deliberate starvation. I do accept, though, that it’s an extremely difficult situation to untangle.

From an MSF doctor on the ground in Gaza:

"Gaza is being deliberately asphyxiated by Israeli sources.

The situation in Gaza is desperate and unprecedented.

Palestinians are being killed and wounded en masse as Israeli forces resume and expand their military offensive by air, ground and sea. For Palestinians, Gaza has become a mass grave.

People continue to be subjected to relentless bombings – the sheer amount of ordnance dropped in such a small area is staggering. In the first week of May alone, our teams in Gaza were confronted by three mass casualty incidents in less than 24 hours following Israeli strikes.

In the last week, 20 medical facilities have been damaged or destroyed by advancing Israeli ground operations. MSF teams have had to leave many hospitals and clinics, while others continue operating with staff and patients trapped inside, unable to leave safely for hours at a time.

We are witnessing the destruction and forced displacement of the entire population, with starvation and collective punishment being used as weapons of war.

Gaza is not just another conflict zone. It’s a place where the very essence of humanity is under siege.

When the situation is this dire, it can be hard to know how to help. However, our teams will continue to provide medical care to people in Gaza for as long as we can in whatever way we can...

...The survival of Palestinians now lies at the mercy of Israeli authorities, who have denied the entire population access to food, water, medical care and shelter.

The longest blockade since the start of the war continues to have a devastating impact on the Palestinian people.

The recent announcement of aid being allowed into the Strip is merely a smokescreen to pretend the siege is over. Many of our staff in Gaza are eating one meal a day.

MSF is clear: Israel is pursuing a campaign of ethnic cleansing by deliberately destroying the conditions necessary for life.

While I’ve now returned home to the UK, part of me will always remain in Gaza, with the people who have lost so much, and with my MSF colleagues who continue to risk their lives to provide care in the most harrowing of circumstances."

Dr Javid Abdelmoneim

Wow!

Hatred of the Jewish people??

I’m sorry, but is that some sort of joke?

The atrocities in Gaza ARE NOT being perpetrated by Jews. The Israeli government are the perpetrators, it’s entirely on them.

Don't be surprised, Jonathan Turner from UK Lawyers for Israel had the balls to publicly suggest that a reduction in obesity resulting from the war in Gaza may increase life expectancy there.

Saying:
"The [Lancet] letter also ignored factors that may increase average life expectancy in Gaza, bearing in mind that one of the biggest health issues in Gaza prior to the current war was obesity"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/10/uk-lawyers-for-israel-condemned-over-claim-war-may-reduce-obesity-in-gaza

Wtf!

Douglas Murray speaks with the polished assurance typical of Eton-educated toff, but behind his salty words lies a pattern of intellectualised Islamophobia. His commentary often serves a particular ideological agenda and his acces such as the opportunity to sit in Yahya Sinwar’s sea was undoubtedly facilitated by the Israeli government. As he once said to Dave Smith, 'Who made him an expert on anything?' — a question that might well be turned back on Murray himself.

He is paid by rich US billionaires amongst others to sing for their suppers. Plus he looks like Harry Enfield's Tory boy - I can't forgive him that one ! These alt-right poster boys are ushering us into a very dark world however sweet their dulcet tones of supposed reason.

It’s how people like her can justify their thoughts. They dehumanise Palestinians to such a degree that they simply do not care whether they live or die. They use their racial prejudices, they rely on false narratives of what happened on 7 October, they convince themselves all Palestinians are evil whose sole purpose in life is to kill all Jews, that they see Palestinians as vermin that need to be dealt with.

There has been much hysteria for over a year now that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza.

Patently untrue.

The same as famine that was supposed to have happened and now the starvation.

I think the nuance in my post was pretty clear. Obviously you missed it. Deliberately or not.

What is truly vile is that no one is calling for the surrender of Hamas and release of the remaining hostages to end the war.

That includes the UK, French and Canadian governments.

So many people coming out of the woodwork who, under normal circumstances, I would genuinely describe as cunts

Given the conversation I now understand that they do in fact lack the depth or warmth

I Couldn’t have said it better myself 👏

This week there has been protests in Israel by civilians who are protesting against the blockade their government is imposing on Gaza. On the other hand there are Israelis who are protesting that even a minimum amount of aid is being allowed in because they don't think it's necessary.

I think I can guess quite accurately which side a certain poster would be joining if they happened to be in Israel and were given the chance.

Terribly interested in what you feel the false narrative of what happened on October 7th is?

@Whatsinanamehey 💯

I’ve got so much respect for huge swathes of Israeli and Jewish communities worldwide who are speaking up against this. I have good friends who are working with their synagogues to actively support Gaza, and this isn’t happening in isolation. Their humanity and bravery will be remembered

If the Israelis were so good at genocide there would really be no one left to starve so obviously not a genocide