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Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:24

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/middleeast/hamas-israel-hostages-to-release-bibas-family-intl/index.html

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Yogre · 21/02/2025 19:27

I hope that what Hamas are saying is true, and the three of them died in an airstrike. Hopefully it was instant and they were in each other's arms and that due to the inability to identify Shiri's body they put the wrong body in the coffin.

The little children were beaten and strangled to death, by people worse than animals. There is forensic evidence to back this up.

It was not instant.

It would have been horror incarnate.

I'm sorry, but the wishful thinking has to stop. If this had been my babies, I would want the world to know the truth and feel the same rage I did.

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 19:29

I pray Shiri was either already dead or wasn't there to see this if it's correct.

But at the same time she would want to be there to comfort her babies when those fuckers were killing them. Oh God it’s just so awful. Crying again.

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 19:35

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 19:29

I pray Shiri was either already dead or wasn't there to see this if it's correct.

But at the same time she would want to be there to comfort her babies when those fuckers were killing them. Oh God it’s just so awful. Crying again.

The only comfort is in making sure their story is told and in honouring their families request that there is no vengeance. I trust they will have known Shiri would not have wanted vengeance. But she would surely have wanted truth.
God bless them
Eternal rest grant unto them and May perpetual light shine upon them.

quantumbutterfly · 21/02/2025 19:44

Real people are trying to carry on with the knowledge of what happened to their families and the only consolation they have is that no-one can hurt them any more.
Bring them all home now. Living and fallen.🎗️🇮🇱

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 19:46

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 19:35

The only comfort is in making sure their story is told and in honouring their families request that there is no vengeance. I trust they will have known Shiri would not have wanted vengeance. But she would surely have wanted truth.
God bless them
Eternal rest grant unto them and May perpetual light shine upon them.

🕯️

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 21/02/2025 20:04

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 19:35

The only comfort is in making sure their story is told and in honouring their families request that there is no vengeance. I trust they will have known Shiri would not have wanted vengeance. But she would surely have wanted truth.
God bless them
Eternal rest grant unto them and May perpetual light shine upon them.

🧡

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 20:59

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 19:22

There's reports from Al-Jazeera now that Hamas have handed over Shiri...praying it's true.

Al Jazeera aren't to be trusted when it comes to this conflict. Some of their reporters are literally hamas members

Clearly hamas are so blinded by their hatred and so bolstered by the useful idiot supporters around the world that they didn't think anyone would have an issue with this. They are running damage control now. I hate to say it but their propaganda and misinformation campaign has been extremely successful 😞 I've never seen anything like it. They are terrorists who torture, rape and murder Jews, women, gay and trans people and we have absolute morons flying their flag on the streets of Europe and the US

EsmaCannonball · 21/02/2025 21:01

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 17:21

Forensic evidence states the babies were strangled to death. Is it even possible a human being could strangle two babies. They can't be human.

These are the people who raise their own children to be 'martyrs.' These are the 'fighters' who hide in tunnels while ordering their own citizens not to respond to IDF warnings because they want civilians to die for propaganda purposes.

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 21:03

IHadAMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything

"I pray Shiri was either already dead or wasn't there to see this if it's correct.

I hope that what Hamas are saying is true, and the three of them died in an airstrike. Hopefully it was instant and they were in each other's arms and that due to the inability to identify Shiri's body they put the wrong body in the coffin. This is the best outcome in this utter nightmare.

I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing on tv yesterday. Absolute animals the lot of them."

Unfortunately not, the forensics say they were strangled first then their bodies mutilated to look as if they had died in an Israeli air strike.

To those still saying "poor Palestinians under Hamas", crowds of Palestinian children and adults took to the streets celebrating the dead babies.

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 21:05

EsmaCannonball · 21/02/2025 21:01

These are the people who raise their own children to be 'martyrs.' These are the 'fighters' who hide in tunnels while ordering their own citizens not to respond to IDF warnings because they want civilians to die for propaganda purposes.

They also took the vast majority of the aid sent in hoping that there would be a famine and more of their own would die and they could get some good photos of starving kids for their online propaganda. They are evil people who can't see beyond their own hate, not noble freedom fighters as some would have us think

EsmaCannonball · 21/02/2025 21:07

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 17:09

This. I sincerely hope they were killed in a strike, quickly and very soon after their kidnapping.

Unfortunately it is confirmed that they were not.

I also wonder how they were treated in the weeks between their kidnapping and their murders.

Hamas really knew their value as the most symbolic hostages. They really needed a way to claim that Israel's bombing had killed the most vulnerable hostages. The whole locked, keyless coffin scenario and 'Ooh, they died in an airstrike and we got the bodies mixed up' charade was just an attempt to further the pretence. And some people will cling to the lie because it's too uncomfortable to admit that they are on the side of the villains in all this,

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 21:12

And some people will cling to the lie because it's too uncomfortable to admit that they are on the side of the villains in all this

It's started already on social media. There's always a pause of a few hours, maybe a day or so, after Hamas does something particularly awful, and you dare to hope that people are finally waking up. But then the usual accounts start spewing a new party line of lies and fact twisting, and that gets amplified, and suddenly the same lines get regurgitated by posters on here. It's the same cycle every time.

Paniconthedancefloor · 21/02/2025 21:14

I really hope the inevitable Hamas apologists protesting tomorrow have fake blood thrown over them.

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 21:37

My cousin's son is in the IDF and his best friend was one of the first into Kibbitz Nir Oz after the slaughter. I don't think he'll ever recover from what he saw, so for me shortly afterwards to hear claims of propaganda was a bitter pill to swallow.

For now it's about killing Jews but it will soon be anyone who doesn't share their "ideology".
I looked at those Palestinian children dancing in the street celebrating little Kfir's death, and I have mixed feelings. I believe every child is born innocent and agree the indoctrination is child abuse. But their ideology is more important than their children, who they happily used as human shields.

I don't believe this is Islam, it's a death cult, and they are rapidly multiplying in numbers all over the world. For those that still think a two state solution is the answer, how many of us would like to have neighbours like that?

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 22:02

I don't believe this is Islam, it's a death cult

Yes. I lived in a Gulf state and obviously there's cultural differences to Europe, many people are devout, but it's a normal, loving, functioning society and one of the defining features was how family-friendly and child-centred it was.

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 22:15

Paniconthedancefloor · 21/02/2025 21:14

I really hope the inevitable Hamas apologists protesting tomorrow have fake blood thrown over them.

The usual Hamas supporters have been very quiet on this thread.

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 22:18

"It's started already on social media. There's always a pause of a few hours, maybe a day or so, after Hamas does something particularly awful, and you dare to hope that people are finally waking up. But then the usual accounts start spewing a new party line of lies and fact twisting, and that gets amplified, and suddenly the same lines get regurgitated by posters on here. It's the same cycle every time."

The first Hate March was on October 14th, before Israel's bombardment of Gaza. What does that say?

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 22:30

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 22:18

"It's started already on social media. There's always a pause of a few hours, maybe a day or so, after Hamas does something particularly awful, and you dare to hope that people are finally waking up. But then the usual accounts start spewing a new party line of lies and fact twisting, and that gets amplified, and suddenly the same lines get regurgitated by posters on here. It's the same cycle every time."

The first Hate March was on October 14th, before Israel's bombardment of Gaza. What does that say?

And they put the request in for the march on 7 October. Tells you all you need to know. The marches were never about peace but attacking Israel.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 22:37

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 22:30

And they put the request in for the march on 7 October. Tells you all you need to know. The marches were never about peace but attacking Israel.

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I'd been wondering about that recently, how much time do you need to get permission to organize a march like that? A week seems pretty quick considering the necessary policing and traffic management.

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 22:38

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 22:37

I'd been wondering about that recently, how much time do you need to get permission to organize a march like that? A week seems pretty quick considering the necessary policing and traffic management.

I don't know, but we know the PSC request was put in on 7 October while the atrocity was ongoing.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 22:45

SharonEllis · 21/02/2025 22:38

I don't know, but we know the PSC request was put in on 7 October while the atrocity was ongoing.

That's hideous.

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 22:47

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 22:02

I don't believe this is Islam, it's a death cult

Yes. I lived in a Gulf state and obviously there's cultural differences to Europe, many people are devout, but it's a normal, loving, functioning society and one of the defining features was how family-friendly and child-centred it was.

Many of these gulf states are happy to funnel money to these jihadi groups whilst keeping their own societies free of such extremism though.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 22:49

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 22:02

I don't believe this is Islam, it's a death cult

Yes. I lived in a Gulf state and obviously there's cultural differences to Europe, many people are devout, but it's a normal, loving, functioning society and one of the defining features was how family-friendly and child-centred it was.

How much freedom do the women have?

Firealarm1414 · 21/02/2025 22:58

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 22:18

"It's started already on social media. There's always a pause of a few hours, maybe a day or so, after Hamas does something particularly awful, and you dare to hope that people are finally waking up. But then the usual accounts start spewing a new party line of lies and fact twisting, and that gets amplified, and suddenly the same lines get regurgitated by posters on here. It's the same cycle every time."

The first Hate March was on October 14th, before Israel's bombardment of Gaza. What does that say?

I was searching the sub reddit of the US city I live in for something unrelated and found a post dated october 10 about a pro Palestine march set to take place. So before the dust had even settled they were planning this. These marches never really got off the ground here though and most of the comments were aghast at the thought of it. There was actually at least one fairly well attended pro Israel rally that went off without any problems.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 23:05

How much freedom do the women have?

There are legal differences that are less favourable than the West, that's undeniable. But day to day life, absolutely no issues, in fact very safe.