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Conflict in the Middle East

Hamas to release the bodies of the Bibas mother and children [Title edited by MNHQ]

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VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:24

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/middleeast/hamas-israel-hostages-to-release-bibas-family-intl/index.html

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myplace · 21/02/2025 14:39

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 14:27

Unsurpringly, it turns out Hamas lied about the children being killed in an airstrike, as confirmed by the IDF. They were murdered.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1892938062730055854

I haven’t followed closely, or researched, so rely on other people’s understanding.

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

To be clear- Hammas are murderous animals and video makes it all too clear they are widely supported by ‘civilians’.

But is this X account truthful?

Those poor babies.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 14:42

I don't know, @myplace , but the remains have been examined by forensic experts, who are (as I understand it) very noted and trustworthy. I suspect they will share details of their findings and will have to use supporting evidence.

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:49

Here is an official statement about the Bibas children:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1892941383083622591

Absolutely sickening.

BooToYouHalloween · 21/02/2025 14:56

myplace · 21/02/2025 14:39

I haven’t followed closely, or researched, so rely on other people’s understanding.

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

To be clear- Hammas are murderous animals and video makes it all too clear they are widely supported by ‘civilians’.

But is this X account truthful?

Those poor babies.

It’s the official account of the IDF. The full statement also included this:

”We have shared these findings, intelligence, and forensics with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

Since we know Jews are never believed.

HermioneWeasley · 21/02/2025 15:29

BooToYouHalloween · 21/02/2025 14:56

It’s the official account of the IDF. The full statement also included this:

”We have shared these findings, intelligence, and forensics with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

Since we know Jews are never believed.

Same as they had to share the appalling details of the savagery of the hamas violence on 7th October because people would rather take the word of terrorists who filmed themselves massacring civilians, than believe Jews.

these are very dark days

myplace · 21/02/2025 15:38

It has been hard to know who to believe, with aid workers and journalists being restricted to the area. It has felt as though there was no onlooker to verify what was happening. But, how can you be an unbiased onlooker anyway after the brutality of October 7th and the terrorists own videos condemning them and the civilians that support them.

I believe Hammas infiltrated or successfully manipulated journalism and aid and the UN peacekeeping force. I believe they used the entire population of Gaza as human shields, and allowed the innocent to starve while feeding and protecting their own.

I just don’t take every post at face value without checking with people who know more than me. The disinformation campaign has been brutal.

I wonder if we will ever know what happened to their poor mother, it doesn’t bear thinking about.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 15:41

Is that X account reliable and accurate? I know there has been so much propaganda it’s hard to know what to believe.

That is the official IDF English X account - you can see it's a verified official organisation by the grey check.

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 14:37

There's a lot of speculation that Shiri was split up from the boys after the kidnapping which gives me a glimmer of hope that Shiri could still be alive.

I truly hope she comes home alive and her and Yarden can find some peace. My heart completely breaks for them🧡

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

TwiceForLunch · 21/02/2025 16:35

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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My only sense of hope (which is not the right word of course) yesterday is that she may have been with them holding them and comforting them when they all died together. All the horrific alternatives to this are playing out in my mind and it's too much to bear.

I cannot stand the vicious, lumpen unbelievably thick stupidity of the useful idiots of the west supporting Hamas. And don't get me started on the BBc refusing to call them terrorists.

OpheliaWasntMad · 21/02/2025 16:53

inamarina · 21/02/2025 14:49

Here is an official statement about the Bibas children:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1892941383083622591

Absolutely sickening.

This is so horrific .

Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 16:57

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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This. I sincerely hope they were killed in a strike, quickly and very soon after their kidnapping. Even saying that feels awful, but the prospect of her being separated from her babies who were horrifically murdered is so dark and indescribably awful that as a mother I would prefer the first scenario. I’m trying very hard not to think about it too much as it gives me actual pain in my chest to think of what they went through.

TheSidewinderSleepsTonite · 21/02/2025 17:02

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

Edited

I feel the same. Sadly with everything that's coming out about her beautiful boys, I can't imagine the pain hearing it if she were still alive. It would be unbearable.
My boys are 4.5 and 2, and even the thought is too much.
I have thought about Yarden a lot today. I hope he has his family around him constantly.

ArtTheClown · 21/02/2025 17:09

This. I sincerely hope they were killed in a strike, quickly and very soon after their kidnapping.

Unfortunately it is confirmed that they were not.

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 17:17

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 11:06

I feel the same. I'm just an old lefty, a Labour supporter whose been on umpteen protest and peace marches over the years, but this is something else. Now I've fallen out with friends over the issue, like you say.

This and the trans issue have made me feel politically homeless as a lefty liberal type. I've never been a fan of winged politics, but I know I'm not right wing despite what the left would now tell me.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 17:18

BaMamma · 21/02/2025 17:17

This and the trans issue have made me feel politically homeless as a lefty liberal type. I've never been a fan of winged politics, but I know I'm not right wing despite what the left would now tell me.

It's awful, isn't it? I can't say anything at work anymore, or to neighbours.

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 17:21

Forensic evidence states the babies were strangled to death. Is it even possible a human being could strangle two babies. They can't be human.

HiyaLuv · 21/02/2025 17:22

EllaDisenchanted · 21/02/2025 00:28

I hear. I wish there was more. Each one that does is a potential peace partner. https://x.com/howidyhamza/status/1892477198453371032?s=46
https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1892656856801194072?s=46

Compassion shouldn't just be limited to one race or religion! 💯

being Jewish today for me felt like a chaotic mix of never having felt closer to all my Jewish brothers and sisters, knowing they were all grieving too, and also painfully lonely, seeing so shamefully few people (outside the advocates who’ve been consistently standing up since oct 7th) condemn todays atrocities and stand with us.

I just still want to amplify the voices of those that did speak out.

Thank you for sharing these tweets. Very moving. Hamas are failing the people of Gaza at every turn.

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 17:23

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 17:21

Forensic evidence states the babies were strangled to death. Is it even possible a human being could strangle two babies. They can't be human.

Oh dear God. I keep thinking - this can't get worse.

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 17:46

So upsetting, so wrong

SinisterBumFacedCat · 21/02/2025 18:14

How on earth can anyone go on those weekly Saturday marches for Hamas?

RominaDina · 21/02/2025 18:15

SinisterBumFacedCat · 21/02/2025 18:14

How on earth can anyone go on those weekly Saturday marches for Hamas?

...and chant those offensive slogans...

peanutbuttertoasty · 21/02/2025 18:45

FairyBlueEyes · 21/02/2025 12:35

They don’t even bother doing a quick google search either. I mean if you were waving that placard the first thing you’d do is look up what it meant. Idiots. But fucking dangerous idiots at that.

Our government is full of them too.

peanutbuttertoasty · 21/02/2025 18:53

ohmysense · 21/02/2025 16:30

I absolutely hate to say this but I really hope she is not alive. This is the only humane thing. Being an uninvolved bystander I am barely coping with all this news of the last few days. I cannot on any level imagine her level of suffering if she is still alive.

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I agree. I would definitely want to be dead if my babies had been slaughtered in this way. Bless her 💔

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 19:20

ParsnipPuree · 21/02/2025 17:21

Forensic evidence states the babies were strangled to death. Is it even possible a human being could strangle two babies. They can't be human.

I pray Shiri was either already dead or wasn't there to see this if it's correct.

I hope that what Hamas are saying is true, and the three of them died in an airstrike. Hopefully it was instant and they were in each other's arms and that due to the inability to identify Shiri's body they put the wrong body in the coffin. This is the best outcome in this utter nightmare.

I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing on tv yesterday. Absolute animals the lot of them.

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 21/02/2025 19:22

There's reports from Al-Jazeera now that Hamas have handed over Shiri...praying it's true.

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