The brutal truth of the war in Gaza.

[Whatsinanamehey]

"To find safety from Gaza, you need first to become the victim of a catastrophic injury and then be lucky enough to be identified, selected and extracted.
That's one of the many brutal truths from this long war."

This article is certainly an eye opening read on the failures of those governments who support Israel in their campaign of cruelty. It's very rare for Israel to allow even injured children with multiple limb amputations, to leave Gaza for treatment. I have read previously that despite all the difficult work to organise an evacuation.. in the last minute Israel will just refuse it with no explanation given.

It isn't enough that they torture and murder health care staff, they bomb hospitals, the routinely block medical aid, they constantly bomb residential blocks and safe zones. After all of that only a select few are given permission to leave this living nightmare.

https://news.sky.com/story/how-the-lives-of-the-few-child-amputees-allowed-to-leave-gaza-are-being-rebuilt-elsewhere-13278543

This is Rahaf after Israel bombed her home in Gaza. Only two years old, she is considered as one of the lucky ones who was able to leave Gaza for treatment. Both of her legs amputated not long after she learned to walk.

Israel routinely blocks medical evacuations of children after bombing and maiming them. Why? Why does Israel block small children from leaving to access the care they need after they brutalise them? These are serious questions that governments including our own need to press on.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/nov/15/gaza-war-children-humanitarian-aid-mazyouna-israel-refuses-medical-evacuation

Poor children 😢

Horrific. And yet some people still pretend this is somehow justified.

Well worth reading ... Israeli Settlement Plans: "Within a Year, We Will Be Living in Gaza"

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israeli-settlement-plans-within-a-year-we-will-be-living-in-gaza-a-bed2eb18-6169-4280-8bb5-1c679e5ca2b4

What a lovely family ... When one detonation sends up a particularly large cloud of smoke, Fenton exults: "How beautiful! How beautiful! How beautiful! Thanks be to God!”

So when you said the brutal truth about the war in Gaza, what you meant was one sided bias which entirely lays the blame on Israel and utterly ignores the facts that:

1. Hamas broke a ceasefire and launched a deliberately barbaric attack on civilian children, women and men to provoke a violent reaction from Israel
2. Having provoked a violent attack, Hamas has not sheltered its own citizens in its massive network of tunnels ( y'know, in the way Londoners could shelter in the Tube tunnels during WW2).
3. Hamas use civilian homes and buildings to launch attacks from, meaning these buildings have to be targeted in a war against Hamas. Hamas knew this when it launched its terrorist attack on October 7th.
4. Hamas has issued public statements actively glorying in the death of civilians ( the death it wrought in its own citizens) as necessary to fortify its fighters (the fighters cowering in the tunnels the civilians are not allowed in).
5. Hamas could stop the war it started at any point by surrendering and handing back the hostages.

You do realise Hamas and Hezbollah have also fired tens of thousands at Israel since October 7th and would happily be bringing far more devastation to Israel than Israel is brining to Gaza, if only Israel did not have better defences.

War is horrific. Anyone can understand that. What I will never understand is the mentality which feels anger at Israel but not fury at Hamas.

FULLY AGREE with this: "What I will never understand is the mentality which feels anger at Israel but not fury at Hamas."

But disagree with 5th stated fact.

Another article worth reading and considering. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/07/southafrica.israel

"When 2.5 million people live in a closed-off Gaza, it's going to be a human catastrophe. Those people will become even bigger animals than they are today, with the aid of an insane fundamentalist Islam. The pressure at the border will be awful. It's going to be a terrible war. So, if we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill. All day, every day," he told the Jerusalem Post.

"If we don't kill, we will cease to exist. The only thing that concerns me is how to ensure that the boys and men who are going to have to do the killing will be able to return home to their families and be normal human beings."

100% agree with you bluetonguegiraffe

BTW thanks OP for a goady thread on Xmas Eve, the night before we preach 'goodwill to ALL men.'

At a time when messages of peace and goodwill are shared around the world, let's try to remember the innocent children of Palestine, for whom peace and goodwill have been in short supply. As our own children may celebrate, or may simply be enjoying time off school and playing with their friends, let's not forget the children left without limbs, without parents, without siblings, without food or water or shelter. The world has failed them so much. Hamas and the Israeli government have caused them so much pain and suffering, and the world is allowing this to continue.

There are still charities working to try to provide medical care in Palestine, and working to support those who have been able to leave Gaza. They still need support.

I agree with @bluetonguegiraffe. OP why don't you start a thread about the thousands of deaths in the war in Sudan or Turkey's slaughter of Kurds for example?

Indeed.

Because this is the board about Gaza / Palestine / Israel. Why don't you?

@raropo - the board is called Conflict in the Middle East. Sudan is in the Middle East.

Thank you OP for keeping this issue in my mind. Bless their souls.

For some posters the ME only consists of Israel versus Gaza/Palestine. They show their ignorance of what goes on the wider ME e.g Yemen, Iran, Syria etc .
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yes, but in case your memory is bad, it was set up in the wake of the events of October 7th and therefore relates to Palestine and Israel directly.

That said since you're obviously so concerned about the issues you raise, you are more than welcome to start a thread about it - so go on then? Why haven't you?

Then the board title should be changed, shouldn't it. Meanwhile, as stated 'no Jews, no news.

@LetThereBeLove then you are free to go start a thread on this very board, should you so wish, since you're obviously so concerned. Why haven't you?

I agree anyone who for whatever reason doesn’t want to discuss the Palestinian genocide because it upsets them, can start their own thread on whatever other topic pleases them. As a distract technique it has been over done.

@headstone the whataboutery is crazy. Anything to deflect from the brutal truth of what Palestinians are going through.

@@raropo... That's a silly question. You can the poster's motivation. I would take it as a reminder that that there is a proliferation of fundamentalist Muslim terrorist groups that hate everything that western democracy stands for. They especially hate Israel, they are really in the front line.

Also, Israel is not the only country actively mass killing civilians combined with ethnic cleansing. Russian, Iran, the list goes on. They are not alone.

@raropo and I did not intend derail your original post with whataboutery. I'm signing out here.