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Conflict in the Middle East

Currently Israel are fighting Hanas in Gaza, The Houthis in Yeman and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

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YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:14

One country taking on so many terrorist organisations.

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

So many hate filled terrorists. Why don't they ever focus on their own people and a better life for them. Are they all raving mad.

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YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:15

Title is naturally hamas not hanas

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Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 17:16

Why do you think Israel has taken on all of this responsibility and potentially bankrupt its own country and lose many of its own citizens in the process?

SometimesCalmPerson · 29/09/2024 17:17

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YellowAsteroid · 29/09/2024 17:36

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

The depth of hatred for Israel mirrors the depth of Jew hatred in the Middle East.

Remember the 1967 war. Overt aggression against the democratic state of Israel.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:44

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 17:16

Why do you think Israel has taken on all of this responsibility and potentially bankrupt its own country and lose many of its own citizens in the process?

They have no choice. Defending themselves.

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YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:44

YellowAsteroid · 29/09/2024 17:36

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

The depth of hatred for Israel mirrors the depth of Jew hatred in the Middle East.

Remember the 1967 war. Overt aggression against the democratic state of Israel.

Yes I agree. It's about hatred of Israel and Jewish people.

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YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:46

The question that perhaps should be asked if why don't these terrorist groups actually try to improve their own people, countries, why just hate? It leads to nothing good for anyone.

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mids2019 · 29/09/2024 18:39

I wonder how sustainable fighting on more than one fronts is but it's absolutely necessary. One good thing is that the U.S. And forces in place of their is any direct intervention from Iran and they obviously support Israel in terms of arms (the US made the bombs that took out the Hezbollah leadershio).

I think we should call spaces spaces and terrorists terrorists by the way. You could view the current action as an extension of the western war on terror that occurred after 9/11.

mids2019 · 29/09/2024 18:40

The death obsessed Islamist death cults recruit from a perversion of religion coupled with a deep seated hatred of Israel in my opinion.

Doublesidedstickytape · 29/09/2024 18:43

The Houthis, who are backed by Iran, fired a missile at Tel Aviv airport.
Israel retaliated is my understanding.

MangeMonCochonnet · 29/09/2024 18:47

I'm still baffled to this day why Jewish people are not protected more in this country, they are a true minority (less than 300,000) and truly under threat by the pro-Hamas contingent that make their feelings known on a weekly basis.

Do we not protect minorities anymore ?

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 19:21

MangeMonCochonnet · 29/09/2024 18:47

I'm still baffled to this day why Jewish people are not protected more in this country, they are a true minority (less than 300,000) and truly under threat by the pro-Hamas contingent that make their feelings known on a weekly basis.

Do we not protect minorities anymore ?

Do you think that people are either Pro Hamas or Pro Israel? That there is no in-between?

SharonEllis · 29/09/2024 20:12

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 19:21

Do you think that people are either Pro Hamas or Pro Israel? That there is no in-between?

Where did she mention Israel?

ImprobableSpy · 29/09/2024 20:14

MangeMonCochonnet · 29/09/2024 18:47

I'm still baffled to this day why Jewish people are not protected more in this country, they are a true minority (less than 300,000) and truly under threat by the pro-Hamas contingent that make their feelings known on a weekly basis.

Do we not protect minorities anymore ?

There is only one state on this planet that protects Jewish people.

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 20:19

SharonEllis · 29/09/2024 20:12

Where did she mention Israel?

Fair enough. I shouldn't have mentioned Israel it's obviously not the issue.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/09/2024 20:24

YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:46

The question that perhaps should be asked if why don't these terrorist groups actually try to improve their own people, countries, why just hate? It leads to nothing good for anyone.

They don’t want better for their people- they hate anything that smells like democracy and western values. They are evil terrorist groups who, if they removed Israel and the Jewish people would move on to their next target. Bravo Israel for doing what the west is too chicken to do themselves!

SunnyZebra · 29/09/2024 20:29

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 20:19

Fair enough. I shouldn't have mentioned Israel it's obviously not the issue.

So are you assuming that all Jews support Israel? Is that why you brought it up? You might want to read in IHRA definition of antisemitism holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

mids2019 · 29/09/2024 20:31

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I wonder though if the west especially the US is talking about ceasefire in public but in private are facilitating the Israeli dismemberment of Hizbollah and Hamas.

Remember the US launched a war on terror after 9/11 and hunted Osama bin Laden for years. I actually think it may be a vote winner with the US public standing by BN on this (the US is quite happy to admit it was a US bomb that destroyed the Hezbollah command).

I suspect if there is a hint of retaliation from Iran US fighter jets in the Med would soon be in action.

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 20:36

SunnyZebra · 29/09/2024 20:29

So are you assuming that all Jews support Israel? Is that why you brought it up? You might want to read in IHRA definition of antisemitism holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

No I brought it up because Israel.was in the thread title.
Thank you for the link I read it.

However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.

I actually thought this was a great quote.

SunnyZebra · 29/09/2024 20:40

Martymcfly24 · 29/09/2024 20:36

No I brought it up because Israel.was in the thread title.
Thank you for the link I read it.

However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.

I actually thought this was a great quote.

Thank you for taking the time to read the link. I think the definition is really helpful. Ages ago I asked MN to pin it at the top of the CITME board. They didn’t.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/09/2024 20:40

mids2019 · 29/09/2024 20:31

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I wonder though if the west especially the US is talking about ceasefire in public but in private are facilitating the Israeli dismemberment of Hizbollah and Hamas.

Remember the US launched a war on terror after 9/11 and hunted Osama bin Laden for years. I actually think it may be a vote winner with the US public standing by BN on this (the US is quite happy to admit it was a US bomb that destroyed the Hezbollah command).

I suspect if there is a hint of retaliation from Iran US fighter jets in the Med would soon be in action.

Of course the US and U.K. support Israel, they hate these scumbags and they know the future risk they pose if they destroy Israel.

Daftasabroom · 29/09/2024 20:45

YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 17:14

One country taking on so many terrorist organisations.

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

So many hate filled terrorists. Why don't they ever focus on their own people and a better life for them. Are they all raving mad.

Israelis have been steadily invading Palestine, colonising Palestinian land, killing Palestinians and displacing Palestinian people for 100 years or more. Aided and abetted by Western nations.

Israel has openly implemented apartheid and unashamedly committed genocide on the Palestinian peoples.

It is getting worse not better.

On October 7th Hamas killed 1139 and kidnapped 250 Israelis. Obviously this was completely abhorrent but since then Israel has killed in the region of 43,000 Palestinians with 4,500 currently in detention. This is absolutely not the first act in this war.

Just double check those numbers.

Palestinians and their allies are understandably really, really pissed off about this.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 29/09/2024 20:56

Daftasabroom · 29/09/2024 20:45

Israelis have been steadily invading Palestine, colonising Palestinian land, killing Palestinians and displacing Palestinian people for 100 years or more. Aided and abetted by Western nations.

Israel has openly implemented apartheid and unashamedly committed genocide on the Palestinian peoples.

It is getting worse not better.

On October 7th Hamas killed 1139 and kidnapped 250 Israelis. Obviously this was completely abhorrent but since then Israel has killed in the region of 43,000 Palestinians with 4,500 currently in detention. This is absolutely not the first act in this war.

Just double check those numbers.

Palestinians and their allies are understandably really, really pissed off about this.

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Hezbollah fired its missiles into Israel the day after 7th October in support of Hamas. This was done before the 43000 deaths that you say 'pissed them off'. So they are psychic now are they!
They just hate Israel, stop making excuses for them.

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Daftasabroom · 29/09/2024 21:01

YellowAsteroid · 29/09/2024 17:36

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

The depth of hatred for Israel mirrors the depth of Jew hatred in the Middle East.

Remember the 1967 war. Overt aggression against the democratic state of Israel.

Remember the seizure of Palestine by Western powers at the end of WW1?
Remember the mandate of 1920?
Remember the reallocation of Palestine by the Allied powers at the Yalta Conference?
Remember the war of 1948?

Remember that for every Israeli death over this time there have been 10 Palestinian?

SunnyZebra · 29/09/2024 21:01

Daftasabroom · 29/09/2024 20:45

Israelis have been steadily invading Palestine, colonising Palestinian land, killing Palestinians and displacing Palestinian people for 100 years or more. Aided and abetted by Western nations.

Israel has openly implemented apartheid and unashamedly committed genocide on the Palestinian peoples.

It is getting worse not better.

On October 7th Hamas killed 1139 and kidnapped 250 Israelis. Obviously this was completely abhorrent but since then Israel has killed in the region of 43,000 Palestinians with 4,500 currently in detention. This is absolutely not the first act in this war.

Just double check those numbers.

Palestinians and their allies are understandably really, really pissed off about this.

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Actually a lot of people in ME are grateful for the actions of Israel over the last week. You don’t appear to have any idea of the level of suffering Hezbollah etc have inflicted on innocent civilians.
Iranians gathered outside the Israeli embassy in London to celebrate and thank Israel www.timesofisrael.com/pockets-of-revelry-at-nasrallah-killing-across-middle-east-including-in-syria-iran/amp/