Currently Israel are fighting Hanas in Gaza, The Houthis in Yeman and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

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One country taking on so many terrorist organisations.

Or is it so many terrorist organisations constantly attacking Israel.

So many hate filled terrorists. Why don't they ever focus on their own people and a better life for them. Are they all raving mad.

Really? Funny how the number of Palestinians has increased, then…

No, we can’t.

Do you apply the same rule to all the many hundreds of thousands of Jews driven out of Arab countries in the last century?

How about Australians? Canadians? Americans? Should all the inhabitants who aren’t Aborigines or First Nation people withdraw back to Europe? If not, why not?

I find it so amusing that British people (and the ‘West’) are condemning Israel, where across the Middle East most people (you know, the ones tormented by the terror groups) are celebrating what the Israelis are doing. There is a reason why no country will take Palestinian refugees. There is a reason why Hezbollah are hated in Syria. There is a reason the Houthis are condemned in Saudi and Oman.

It’s so different yet so similar to Iraq. The West removed Saddam but if you actually go to Iraq or speak to Iraqis, many of them miss him. Their lives were better under him.

The West seems to perpetually be on the wrong side of history. And people with no concept of how the Middle East operates or functions and who have not been there (Dubai does not count as ‘travelling to the Middle East) mouth off with uninformed, uneducated opinions and beliefs that are often at odds with what the citizens of the region think.

I think there were rather a lot of Iraquis that weren't fond of Saddam, the Kurdish villagers he gassed are dead so we can't ask them, but there are refugees of his regime in 'the west' that you can ask

Nevertheless, it's good for you that you can laugh about it I'm sure.

I would really love to understand your reasoning - how is shooting small children in the head with a sniper gun defeating Hamas?

I feel heartbroken for all people caught up in this conflict (what happened on 7th October is absolutely beyond comprehension) but the above is indefensible as well. I have never heard anything other than ‘well Hamas are bad too!’ as a response to this. Well, yes they are. They’re a terrorist organisation. But terrorism isn’t going to be defeated by shooting small children in the head, and we should be holding all legitimate govts to a much higher standard than terrorists. This isn’t exclusive to Israel!

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I always find it so hard to comment on these stories as an Arab African woman, born in Syria but educated at a UK boarding school. One set of my ancestors lived under early apartheid. They were black African and considered terrorists internationally. Years later as the brutality and common sense took hold, the world could see they were not terrorist.

What we see on the news is not the reality. This war did not start on 7th October but we all know that. History has taught us that 99% of wars are about land. The truth about this war will only be revealed decades from now.

Never underestimate the wickedness of man and never underestimate the hatred for darker peoples.

@Daftasabroom

Are the Jews allowed to reclaim homes & land from Lebanon - they had to flee persecution & there are almost no Jews left.

By 2005, the Jewish quarter of Beirut, Wadi Abu Jamill*, was virtually abandoned, and there were only around 40 Jews left in Beirut.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HistoryofftheJewssin_Lebanon

I spent six months living in the KRI about 18 months ago, and can assure you that most of the Kurds I spoke to had very little to say in thanks of the ‘West’ for what we did twenty years ago. Yes, Saddam was an awful person - but many have suffered even more harm since at the hands of ISIS who were only able to seize control the way they did because of what the West did.

Since no one can tell me why the Western powers, and since 1948 the Israelis, have the right to displace, massacre, etc the incumbent Palestinian and Arab populations it feels like a different set of rules for each. Except of course the West and the Israelis get to make the rules, and the Palestinians get no say whatever.

Israelis don't have to leave of course - they just need to return stolen land and property to their former owners.

I think the same for Afghanistan, are the Afghans living a better life after the war on terror? Did the west 'liberate' them? Or leave them worse off than before?

You need to elaborate.
You think Iraq would be a better place if Saddam had been left alone after the first 'gulf war'.
Or you think he should have been left alone when he invaded Kuwait?

How much land are you referring to?

Do you think Israel should exist?

I think you’re making things out to be simpler than they are and twisting what I said.

So in your world you think that Israel shouldn't exist as a state. Should every state created since Israel also be dismantled or just Israel?

I think you can't answer my question without imploding with cognitive dissonance.

Should Turkey do the same to Cyprus? Should Ukraine do the same to Russia?

There were a whole host of Baltic states redrawn after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

I wonder how stable Afghanistan and it's neighbours would be if Soviet expansion to the east had been more successful.

Should Palestine exist?

Should the Western imperial powers have divvied up Palestine (and Europe, and many other regions for that matter) at the end of WW1? No. It was a grave mistake for which many peoples the world over have paid for with their lives, and continue to pay.

Should Palestinians have forfeited their lives and lands to make way for the creation of the Israeli state at the end of WW2? No.

Should the Western powers have continued to support Israel in its continued and continuing expansionism and displacement and killing of Palestinians? No.

Should the Western powers have taken it on themselves to impose regime change across the World. No.

Should the west continue to support Israeli expansionism and displacement and killing of Palestinians and Arabs. No.

The Palestinians are suffering in a conflict between proxies, Israel, Iran, Saudis etc, of former imperialist powers, US, Europe, Russia. In the meantime China bides it's time while quietly, or not so quietly, enforcing it power at home and abroad.

The Palestinians (and Ukrainians, Uyghurs etc) are at the very shitty end of a very long stick with an awful lot of branches.

It's going to be very hard to pull back from this but the first step has to be for the west to back off from supporting Israel.

Just to be clear is your answer to should Israel exist no?

Did you read @SunnyZebra post?

History has happened and we move forward from where we are.

Are Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis contributing anything positive to this situation?

Where do you propose the Jewish homeland should be? Or you don’t think they deserve one, you think there needs to be another arab state?

What does your ancestors being labelled terrorists have to do with Hamas, the Houthis and Hezbollah?

Are Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis contributing anything positive to this situation? or indeed to the world. It’s maddening how these terrorist organisations have positioned themselves as legitimate political parties almost. I know which side of history I want to stand on.

What about, what about, what about?

I'm not that quoting invasion, displacement and genocide of indigenous people the world over by imperialist nations is a particularly good argument in favor of the current invasion, displacement and genocide of Palestinians by Israel.

Unless of course you think invasion, displacement and genocide is bad. I think it's very bad.