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Conflict in the Middle East

Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

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mids2019 · 14/05/2024 15:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

It appears Jews are not safe in the UK at all.

Can we seriously look at the impact of anti semitism now?

Police at the home of one of the men arrested over an alleged terror plot

Three in court over alleged plan to attack Jewish community

Three men are accused of planning a gun attack on the Jewish community in North-West England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

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YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 13:14

Lilacblossom70 · 02/06/2024 12:59

The IHRA thing is bizarre - I was told that it was only a draft definition or something on another thread a few months ago.

Wow it definitely isn’t! The IHRA is 25 years old, and started in Sweden IIRC.

This playing down of such an important organisation that works to protect Jewish people and other groups persecuted in the Holocaust sails dangerously close the Holocaust denial winds

Lilacblossom70 · 02/06/2024 14:02

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 13:14

Wow it definitely isn’t! The IHRA is 25 years old, and started in Sweden IIRC.

This playing down of such an important organisation that works to protect Jewish people and other groups persecuted in the Holocaust sails dangerously close the Holocaust denial winds

Yes, exactly. There are other motivations at play I suspect (well, I don't just suspect- they are clear as day, let's face it).

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 14:06

Lilacblossom70 · 02/06/2024 14:02

Yes, exactly. There are other motivations at play I suspect (well, I don't just suspect- they are clear as day, let's face it).

It doesn’t stop people doing the wide eyed “Antisemitic? Me? What because I support Palestine - I’m sick of these accusations!”

HelenHen · 02/06/2024 14:46

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 00:46

Seriously, do some posters think that if they call something antisemitic they’ll be fined £10,000 or something? Why is it SO hard to say it??

This is the subtleties I’m talking about. Refusing to EVER admit something is antisemitic is, well, very telling.

And yes I call out antisemitism when I see it. Sorry if that inconveniences you. Perhaps a bit of self reflection of why this keeps happening to you wouldn’t go amiss?

If you’ve no reason to not believe me why can’t you tell me if it’s antisemitic to bring Israel into a thread about antisemitism? Can yoy not even imagine it to be true and give an answer? Why is it SO HARD for you to do that?

So you ask me to condemn a thread that I haven't read, which has nothing to do with this one. When I refuse to condemn it, you suggest that means I'm antisemitic. Please listen to your own bullshit and stop it.

I condemn antisemitism when I see it... not when someone busts in and aggressively demand that I condemn something I haven't even seen.

Nope... just no.

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 14:57

HelenHen · 02/06/2024 14:46

So you ask me to condemn a thread that I haven't read, which has nothing to do with this one. When I refuse to condemn it, you suggest that means I'm antisemitic. Please listen to your own bullshit and stop it.

I condemn antisemitism when I see it... not when someone busts in and aggressively demand that I condemn something I haven't even seen.

Nope... just no.

I’m asking a simple question - is it antisemitic to bring Israel into a thread that is NOT about Israel but about antisemtism against British Jews?

If you don’t wanna answer that one, how about - is it Islamophobic to being the atrocities on Saudi Arabia into a thread about the Islamophobia British Muslims experience?

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 14:57

I condemn antisemitism when I see it

Can you give an example?

HelenHen · 02/06/2024 15:27

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 14:57

I’m asking a simple question - is it antisemitic to bring Israel into a thread that is NOT about Israel but about antisemtism against British Jews?

If you don’t wanna answer that one, how about - is it Islamophobic to being the atrocities on Saudi Arabia into a thread about the Islamophobia British Muslims experience?

Context is everything! I did not read the thread and have no idea if it was antisemitic or if the thread had already derailed that way, or if the post was even relevant. I am not sure why you try to derail each thread into a personal assault on me though. My refusal to condemn a post I haven't read does not mean I am antisemitic. Yet you are determined to make it so. For this reason, as I explained to you in the other thread where you're doing the same thing, I will not engage with you anymore.

Have a good day

noblegiraffe · 02/06/2024 15:37

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 14:57

I condemn antisemitism when I see it

Can you give an example?

KEIR STARMER.

That's who she has called out as antisemitic. While saying things about his Jewish wife that have since been deleted.

Opinions may vary as to the level of support that Jewish people may feel at this intervention.

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 16:04

noblegiraffe · 02/06/2024 15:37

KEIR STARMER.

That's who she has called out as antisemitic. While saying things about his Jewish wife that have since been deleted.

Opinions may vary as to the level of support that Jewish people may feel at this intervention.

Oh dear Lord 🤣🤣

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…even when it tells us it isn’t a duck, it is

Im done trying to ask people to denounce antisemtism when they clearly don’t want to. It only looks bad on them not me

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 16:04

Out of interest what antisemitic things had Starmer, the man with Jewish children, done??

noblegiraffe · 02/06/2024 16:58

Kicked some members of Jewish Voice For Labour out of the party for doing stuff like supporting Labour against the Witch Hunt.

Normally people would file that under ‘tackling antisemitism’.

stomachamelon · 02/06/2024 21:36

Bat shit.

Alwayslookonthe · 14/06/2024 20:15

Short time ago (Fri afternoon) in Hendon, NW London, which is heart of Jewish community, a young Jewish man was attacked by group of teenagers calling them f…… Jews and struck with bottle.

Police were called, crowds built up & situation became intense and incendiary.

https://x.com/James_J_Marlow/status/1801675378345304453

x.com

https://x.com/James_J_Marlow/status/1801675378345304453

Yellowbudgie · 04/07/2024 23:13

I no longer wear my Magen David :(

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