Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

It appears Jews are not safe in the UK at all.

Can we seriously look at the impact of anti semitism now?

Why do you think Jewish people in particular should call them out?

I agree with you completely. I don't excuse antisemitism (in the past and that still exists) but this type of extremism is a threat to all of us including Muslims (they are the victims of it the most).

I don't know how we are going to deal with it.

Do you think that about just Jewish people or do you think other religions/, ethnicities should call out things that people of their religion/ethnicity do in other countries?

I don’t think they said “should” but the reality is that whenever there are extremists, moderate members of that group end up having to distance themselves because otherwise our society tars the whole group with the same brush. It’s a defensive survival tactic in a hostile society.

Look how many Muslims protesting for peace were tarred with the brush of supporting terrorism and Hamas, as being on the side of baby killers and rapists.

Similar is happening to Jews protesting antisemtism being tarred with the brush of supporting possible genocide, as being on the side of war criminals and violent settlers.

What else do you think Jewish people should do in order to not be the victim of an anti semetic attack?

Do you have any tips for Muslims as to how they could avoid being the victim of an islamophobic attack?

How about racism against black people? How should they modify their behaviour in order to avoid it.

We're all waiting with baited breath

There are many many more Muslims than Jews in this country and so surely the statistics show that Jews are being disproportionately targeted?

Given how few Jews there are, and given how even fewer look visibly Jewish, it feels to me that being publicly Jewish now is not safe at all. Muslims suffer more hate crimes but I still feel that numbers wise id be safer walking down the street looking identifiably Muslim than Jewish.

I don't really like having to make such direct comparisons as I don't think it needs to be a competition. Hate crime IS awful, whoever it is aimed at. But why does a thread about a terror attack planned against Jews result so quickly in posts about how it's worse for Muslims? It feels a bit "all lives matter".

If I came onto a thread about hate crime against Muslims and started talking about how often Jews are affected by hate crime I feel like I'd be chased out and rightfully so.

At the end of the day this was a planned attack on the Jewish community in the North West that involved allegedly automatic weapons. Thank God the attack was foiled.

As Jews are a small community a threat of this magnitude should ring alarm bells. I suppose it is a magnitude greater to casual anti semitism in that is a magnitude greater. It is also the UK, my home country, and therefore particularly alarming.

I hope this planning isn't repeated.

@TabithaTimeTurner
It’s disgusting and the mindless sheep waving their flags every weekend about things they don’t understand are really not helping.

@Auvergne63 You may not agree to the marches happening and you have every right to do so but your derogatory sweeping statement on the marchers is not a valid argument to explain why antisemitism is rising.
By the way, any form of racism is despicable and I sincerely hope these vile individuals are dealt with accordingly.

I agree with @Auvergne63 there is absolutely no need for the insulting name calling of the protestors. You could have simply said "marchers" and made your point. There are plenty of posters on here who have been to the protests on here and most of them are Muslims.

Ah yes and the Muslims should also be denouncing Hamas and Isis and al-qaeda because it affects them too so they should all be out denouncing them, on marches preferably….

But no we don’t and shouldn’t expect that because British Muslim people are not responsible for the actions of other muslims in other countries.

There is hate crime and there is the attempt at mass murder. This was both.

I know people that stopped taking their kids to concerts after the Manchester arena bombing and I hate to think psychologically what this has done to the relatively small Jewish community in that area.

we know from previous terrorist attacks often in the perverse manifestos of the terrorists there was mention of the middle East so it makes sense at this time there is heightened worry.

Key word is GENOCIDE…but if you don’t get it by now you never will …

News here are certainly not responsible for the decisions of the Israeli government and certainly could have been impacted by October 7th get here we are with their lives in clear and present danger?

Text book antisemitism to hold Jews in this country responsible for the actions of the Israeli government AND demandimg that they publicly condemn Israel - for anyone who is still not sure. The only people resonsible for antisemitism are antisemites. Which governments's actions are you demanding other religious minorities collectively publicly condemn?

Of course they should! Everyone should!

We should recognise we are all one together.

The powers that are controlling us are trying to divide us.

The powers that are controlling us? Who the hell are they?

The usa are controlling what happens in Isreal.

Yes do go

Oh ok. So the anti semite who is waiting to attack a Jewish person...just needs to know that that particular Jewish person is a "good jew" who has condemned Israel and they will be spared? Is that correct?

If that's the key difference according to you, I assume you think all Chinese people should call out the treatment of the Uyghur Muslims in china?

No, I didn't say that.

I said that the usa is supporting Isreal and think they are wrong to do so because..

They are encouraging and supporting outright mass slaughter.

And this thread is not about that. It's about anti semitism.