Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)

[EasterIssland]

Hi just realised that the other thread has reached max comments so opening this new one. Hope the other threads op doesn’t mind.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4947625-please-do-all-you-can-to-object-to-the-genocide-of-palestinians

No thanks. Your posts are enough for me to know that's a pointless exercise.

High birth rates generally are inversely related to lack of access to economic and educational opportunities. As living standards rise, birth rates generally fall. This is particularly true in Israel and the Palestinian Territories. The highest birth rates are among the Ultra Orthodox Jewish communities who have very poor levels of educational achievement and economic participation
This conflict will create a brain drain of all communities but it may well be secular Jews who support the tax base to the greatest extent and who have lowest birth rates that will be most affected.
It’s possible the whole place will implode and be left to religious extremists in living conditions akin to Afghanistan with anarchic armed settlers and Jihadists fighting it out amidst chronic malnutrition and disease

Listening to Tess Ingram from UNICEF talking about how missions to the north of Gaza proved almost nearly impossible because Israel attacked them.

What a fucking country.

A closed mind unable to see factual data ie population growth for Palestinian people from 1950 to 2024 all official statistics. The decline of Jewish peoples in various Arab countries and movement to 'safer' Israel.

I'm not surprised you are closed off to facts that don't fit your views. Only views that fit your narrative are welcome 🙄😂no wonder the issue with Gaza doesn't change 🤔

They’ve killed some aid workers today in the north

@Factsareimportantplease
15% of the illegal settlers invests Jerusalem and the West Bank are American. Israel might be safer than Brooklyn but it hardly is necessary for them to move.
Ate you suggesting that Palestinian children have kess of a right of be born ? It certainly seems to be what you are intimating.

I'm very sorry to hear that. But it's not surprising when they're seemingly constantly attacking aid workers. More war crimes. Absolutely heinous.

Sorry your "facts" are pointless and have nothing to do with the thread so that's why I'm not engaging.

If you're so interested in Palestinian/Israeli demographics maybe start a thread about it.

@Factsareimportantplease
What point are you actually trying to make? We can all look up census data to find out the population in Gaza over the past 74 years but how does it relate in any way to the current displacement of 2 million people and the death of over 30,0000, 11,000 of which are children. It is not the facts people just confused with the point of posting them here.

Only views that fit your narrative are welcome 🙄😂no wonder the issue with Gaza doesn't change 🤔
pretty clear here what you think of Palestinian people, why don't you just come out and say what you're trying to say?

In English?

Do you think that the children in the Palestinian territories have less right to be born than Israeli children? You comments see to suggest that this is how you feel.

DETENTION AND ALLEGED ILL-TREATMENT OF DETAINEES FROM GAZA DURING ISRAEL-HAMAS WAR

https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/detention-and-alleged-ill-treatment-detainees-gaza-during-israel-hamas-war

The facts show that population is increasing, so much for genocide. As you well know.

Its a war, as you well know, again. One where scum are running around hiding rather than fighting so innocent people die. Not that the scum hamas care. They could surrender and put women and children first but they love using ordinary people in the pathetic aims.

Nope didn't say that.

Exactly. No bombs should be dropped on civilians

Lucky Israel spent their money on defense rather than tunnels and 2 years planning 7.10.23. Imagine if those 2 years were spent doing something useful. 😳

Epidemiologists warn that if the humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues, the death toll could reach 100,000 – or even top 120,000

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-06/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/epidemics-famine-untreated-wounds-what-happens-if-the-crisis-in-gaza-continues/0000018e-afe8-d9e9-a9af-effad3950000

The last census in Gaza was in 2017. You are using census data from 2017 to suggest there is no geocide now? That makes no sense. As you well know.

Seeing as my post pointing out that it is ridiculous to claim that a genocide didn't happen because the population of Gaza grew before the genocide happened, here it is again in terms that will hopefully be less offensive.

The governing body in gaza need to sort themselves out and swap weapons for talks and release of hostages. Still waiting for this

When they do that there will be no support for Israel continuing this conflict. major step.

They will have to stop the conflict and rebuilding can happen and aid flooding in.

Would hamas use their combination of singe brain cells to work this out and save the people they govern 🙄probably not

aid flooding in.

Aid should be flooding in regardless of a ceasefire or an end to the conflict. Obstructing humanitarian aid to civilians is a war crime and should not be part of any peace negotiations

Any offense you thought you'd deliver failed, I didn't see it.

When people blabber on about 1948 the population census data shows such a small population which has grown rapidly all claiming that Israel pushed us out when they weren't even born then. The birth rate means population is now nothing like in was then. A 5 fold increase. 30k of just under 5 million died and if using just a percentage gauge then no ethnic cleansing neither. 30k to hamas doesn't appear enough to get them to pop weapons away and have a chin wag.

If Israel wanted to they could do what people claim on here but the dont, but they are chasing down an enemy that hides away and pops up like Whack-A-Mal rather than fighting like traditional conflict. Like isis or isil or other islamist terrorist organisations in Afghanistan did against the US and Russia, hide and pop out randomly. Another group that don't put its people high on any list and leave to others to help. No idea why anyone would support that type of regime but there you go.