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Conflict in the Middle East

To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

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Muthaofcats · 28/01/2024 07:35

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

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anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:22

@AliceA2021
Ok then let's ask you this:

Do you think it's fair and proportionate to stop aid to a group of oppressed people who are being bombed and killed in the thousands for the acts of 6 accused rogue UNRWA workers?

Pav123 · 03/02/2024 10:22

Isreal have had it in for the UN & UNRWA for years because they highlight Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians. Day after the ICJ ruling isreal comes out with allegations of UNRWA staff in order to divert attention from the ICJ ruling and discredit UN and UNRWA.

Why wait 3 and half months to come out with this allegations?

Some of us aren't gullible, our eyes are wide open!!!!!

FREE FREE PALESTINIAN

quantumbutterfly · 03/02/2024 10:24

Apparently bears shit in the woods unless Israel says so, in which case there is no evidence that bears shit in the woods, you're libelling or slandering them to say so and you must (at your own risk) provide irrefutable evidence that they do.

Not photos, it's probably a bloke in a bear suit acting, not eyewitnesses, they are probably paid actors.
Go to the woods, find a bear, report back if you can, but we won't believe you if we don't want to.

anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:24

Feeding people
building houses
building hospitals
building schools
building universities
building refugee camps

All of which have been bombed and demolished.

quantumbutterfly · 03/02/2024 10:26

Free, free the hostages.

stomachameleon · 03/02/2024 10:28

@Pav123 they didn't wait they have been saying it for years.
And anytime Israel says something evidence is demanded so you would think it would be wise for Israel to provide that.

To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical
anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:31

Well this will make all you Pro Israel supporters happy.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/feb/02/vital-aid-in-gaza-and-beyond-at-risk-of-collapse-due-to-unrwa-funding-cuts

PeasfullPerson · 03/02/2024 10:31

Limeandsodaontherocks · 02/02/2024 22:34

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating stuff others have said .
Yes the silence from some people about Hamas members posing as UNRWA is concerning but no longer surprising.
I have good friends - who I have known for over 30 years - who believe themselves to be moral and good people. And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.
Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.
Edited to say - I have no connection with Middle East and am not Jewish or Palestinian. But I definitely feel the pressure to “ take the knee” for Palestinians from social media.

Edited

I would suggest you read the thread so that you gain an understanding of why your friends may have a different perspective from you.
Can I please ask why you believe they have been groomed by social media? And what makes you certain that your own beliefs have not been influence by social or main stream media?

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 10:31

@stomachameleon was the pic meant to be for this thread? Only asking in case you posted that one by mistake and it wasn’t.

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:33

What happens is that Hamas are free to spend on weapons, terrorism etc since aid keeps the people educated. By giving aid to gaza, hamas can abdicate its responsibilities to other countries and keep money for Palestinian people for itself for terrorism and its leaders to amass.

Stop giving unwra aid to gaza and make hamas actually spend the money it collects and keeps (including for its leaders) on its own people. Seize its assets and assets of the leaders and redirect to Gaza. Hamas don't care for its people, they let the rest of the world care for them. It is able to keep what it has since other countries pick up the tabs for education, health etc.

You could argue that allowing hamas to not spend money on its people the problems are being perpetuated. Hamas keeps the Jihad going because they have the funds to do so.

Derailing again I imagine. The status quo cannot continue.

https://apnews.com/article/business-middle-east-israel-foreign-aid-gaza-strip-611b2b90c3a211f21185d59f4fae6a90

Members of Palestinian Hamas police stand guard at a checkpoint in Gaza City, Thursday, Nov. 25, 2021. Gaza’s Hamas rulers collect millions of dollars a month in taxes and customs at a crossing on the Egyptian border – providing a valuable source of in...

A look at the billions of dollars in foreign aid to Gaza

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — The international community has sent billions of dollars in aid to the Gaza Strip in recent years to provide relief to the more than 2 million Palestinians living in the isolated, Hamas-ruled territory.

https://apnews.com/article/business-middle-east-israel-foreign-aid-gaza-strip-611b2b90c3a211f21185d59f4fae6a90

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:36

Seize all the assets of Hamas and its leaders. Billions. Give to an organisation to run Gaza and run it properly without hatred.

Februaryfeels · 03/02/2024 10:36

Pav123 · 03/02/2024 10:22

Isreal have had it in for the UN & UNRWA for years because they highlight Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians. Day after the ICJ ruling isreal comes out with allegations of UNRWA staff in order to divert attention from the ICJ ruling and discredit UN and UNRWA.

Why wait 3 and half months to come out with this allegations?

Some of us aren't gullible, our eyes are wide open!!!!!

FREE FREE PALESTINIAN

🤣. I bet you bought a scarf too

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 10:36

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:33

What happens is that Hamas are free to spend on weapons, terrorism etc since aid keeps the people educated. By giving aid to gaza, hamas can abdicate its responsibilities to other countries and keep money for Palestinian people for itself for terrorism and its leaders to amass.

Stop giving unwra aid to gaza and make hamas actually spend the money it collects and keeps (including for its leaders) on its own people. Seize its assets and assets of the leaders and redirect to Gaza. Hamas don't care for its people, they let the rest of the world care for them. It is able to keep what it has since other countries pick up the tabs for education, health etc.

You could argue that allowing hamas to not spend money on its people the problems are being perpetuated. Hamas keeps the Jihad going because they have the funds to do so.

Derailing again I imagine. The status quo cannot continue.

https://apnews.com/article/business-middle-east-israel-foreign-aid-gaza-strip-611b2b90c3a211f21185d59f4fae6a90

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Not a single time is urnwa mentioned here. So let’s asked again do you have proof that Hamas and its leader is being funded by urnwa ?

ps. Stop the funding to Gaza (and Israel) can you tell me how does Gaza recover at the moment without international aid?

To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical
Arafina · 03/02/2024 10:37

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:47

Where has all the aid gone. Billions in aid. Is it odd that 4 main Hamas leaders live in Qatar and are reputedly worth millions or some suggested billions. Why is that? More robust tracking of the money. Ties with Hamas need severing

Have you considered that the Hamas leaders are independently wealthy? I can't see how there is so much money left over after 500 trucks of aid per day,all the infrastructure built and maintained etc etc, it wouldn't be enough excess to make 1 person a billionaire never mind 4

Pav123 · 03/02/2024 10:38

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Pav123 · 03/02/2024 10:40

On my way to London to Palestinian protest march.

FREE FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸

anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:40

anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:22

@AliceA2021
Ok then let's ask you this:

Do you think it's fair and proportionate to stop aid to a group of oppressed people who are being bombed and killed in the thousands for the acts of 6 accused rogue UNRWA workers?

@AliceA2021 you still haven't answered this.

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:42

anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:22

@AliceA2021
Ok then let's ask you this:

Do you think it's fair and proportionate to stop aid to a group of oppressed people who are being bombed and killed in the thousands for the acts of 6 accused rogue UNRWA workers?

No.

The people of gaza need food, medicine etc.

I think a neutral organisation should deal with aid. I think that ALL assets of Hamas and its billionaire leaders, the bank accounts, the crypto accounts etc should be frozen, seized and then used for aid to the people.

I think hostages should be released, the war stopped but that includes hamas stopping its missiles and peace. 2 state solution. I think Netanyahu should go. Then full investigation in time into everything.

What does it matter what I think though. The important thing is hamas don't give a shit about their people so won't stop and Israel current government won't stop.

stomachameleon · 03/02/2024 10:43

@Pav123 have reported your post. Where was I racist?

stomachameleon · 03/02/2024 10:43

@AliceA2021 I agree.

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:44

anotherlevel · 03/02/2024 10:40

@AliceA2021 you still haven't answered this.

Give me time. I do have a life as well you know. I've answered

Februaryfeels · 03/02/2024 10:45

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AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:47

Pav123 · 03/02/2024 10:40

On my way to London to Palestinian protest march.

FREE FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸

Remember to wave a flag for the hostages to be released and to condemn hamas , those things will go a long way to peace which is what I assume the majority of us want.

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 10:50

Arafina · 03/02/2024 10:37

Have you considered that the Hamas leaders are independently wealthy? I can't see how there is so much money left over after 500 trucks of aid per day,all the infrastructure built and maintained etc etc, it wouldn't be enough excess to make 1 person a billionaire never mind 4

Independently wealthy. They collect taxes from the Palestinian people and unlike other governments don't have to worry about spending on education and health etc since the aid from the rest of the world covers that. They also get donations from Iran to fund hatred. They could spend on their people but nope, not happening when the world covers their failures

quantumbutterfly · 03/02/2024 10:52

FREE FREE THE HOSTAGES

A quick Google shows the hate that children (cannon fodder) are being taught in unwra funded schools in gaza.
Some hostages report being held by civilian families, in schools (unwra), hospitals (unwra). There are reports and film of hamas repurposing aid funded water pipes as weaponry.
There is footage on the internet of Gazans being silenced when complaining about hamas on camera.

free Gaza from hamas

As for independently wealthy.....the cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.
Op it's not silence it's actively excusing.

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