To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

[Muthaofcats]

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

I hope you apply the same level of mistrust to everything Hamas say, and all news coming out of Gaza.

@EasterIssland Yes exactly they've proven to us on many occasions that they are, in fact, trustworthy and have the most moral army in the world. So no reason to question them at all. 🙄

Yes, I am also waiting for more information.

OP and co may have to save their popcorn and find some other form of light entertainment for this evening.

Will any of you actually trust any further information provided if it states that UNRWA knew more than they're letting on? Or will you just keep not believing it regardless because it doesn't suit your chosen narrative, and wait for someone from Hamas to announce it definitely isn't true and then believe that instead?

I'm still recovering from 40 beheaded babies.

How plausible is that deniability?

Why wouldn’t believe it if it was proven to be true by an independent organisation? Not sure you realise that what we care about Palestinians and them getting their aid. If urnwa is not right for purpose then they should be removed and another organisation get the money to rebuild Gaza and provide aid to the Palestinians. Who we actually care about. But , sorry I won’t trust anything said by idf. Hope you apply to yourself the same if Israel/idf are found to have done something they shouldn’t have done

@EasterIssland the Times of Israel link I've posted has pictures and a lot of detail if you're interested.
Also Philippe Lazzarini isn't denying its existence, he's just claiming that somehow UNRWA staff had no knowledge of it.

I'm still recovering from 40 beheaded babies.

That was never an actual claim. There were reports of both dead babies and beheaded bodies when the reporting on the situation was still developing. It was then used to attempt to minimise the atrocity generally.
Given though that babies and children were nevertheless murdered that day, your comment is in very poor taste.

I'm not surprised, btw, at the derail attempts. It's so predictable by this point.

Even unrwa aren’t denying it though; they don’t seem to be challenging that Hamas control centre is there; just whether they knew about it (which seems highly implausible that they didn’t)? In the same way they didn’t deny their staff involvement, just immediately sacked those accused without even attempting to defend them or demand proof. I would have been more inclined to wonder if propaganda until I saw unrwa react this way and was surprised there was what seemed like weary acceptance.

It’s been known for years that they share a building, way before 7/10 so it’s hardly new news?

times of ISRAEL (not sure how independent is that) has got the pics that have been released by idf. So , if you don’t mind let’s wait until more is known about this and independent organisations can verify it (like we’ve had in the past with other videos / pictures)

times of ISRAEL (not sure how independent is that) has got the pics that have been released by idf

Yep, you sure don't want to trust those lying ISRAELIS. Maybe wait for a neutral party to investigate, like the UN.
Oh, hang on...

If it’s known for years they shared the building why today and not 8th of October ? In fact why not 6th of October ? Sure if you want to get rid of Hamas it’d be better to attack them when they don’t expect it rather than now ?

Sure if you want to get rid of Hamas it’d be better to attack them when they don’t expect it rather than now ?

Because there was a ceasefire in place.

Haven’t you thought that maybe They’re not unbiased ? Hence they don’t fit for my “independent organisation” requirement?

@EasterIssland that's a quote from unwra though?

And? If theyre terrorist group. get rid of them there is a ceasefire or not.

Which one?

Yet you trust everything Al Jazeera say. The people who filmed PIJ misfiring a rocket at a hospital in Gaza and then subsequently deleted the footage and claimed it was Israel's doing🤦🏻‍♀️

Oh yes forgot about that. Idf also to proof that it wasn’t them posted videos from a other year 🤔
ps. They might have not destroyed that hospital but they have destroyed 30+ hospitals since

And? If theyre terrorist group. get rid of them there is a ceasefire or not.

Again, there was a ceasefire in place that Hamas broke on 7 October. Hamas had led them to believe they had softened their stance somewhat towards Israel's existence and more Gazans had been granted cross-border work permits. It was probably a better situation than had been the case for years. All ruined now though.

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say?

Have a google - lots of historic articles online about unrwa links with Hamas predating their latest terrorist stack, unrwa got into hot water many times for things like removing the Holocaust from their curriculum and being linked to training many of the Hamas militants at the schools. I looked this up when people were looking for neutral ways to give aid to Gaza as I wanted to find out if unrwa were a good way to donate and saw a lot on line that made me not comfortable to support them and chose Red Cross instead (although goodness knows if they’re any better - at this point I don’t know which way is up any more if so many agencies and charities we always thought of as humanitarian are actually partisan at best and part of a terrorist group responsible for rape and murder at worst)

The terrible thing about all of this is even if it’s true, thats not a ‘win’ for Israel, it just makes the situation even more appalling on the ground. I really can’t see how this is going to resolve itself, it’s all so desperate.

The Palestinians Red Crescent have also been known to employ terrorists. It's been a problem for decades.

Does this go back to the question of the blurred line between Palestinians and Hamas?

@EasterIssland I don't understand why (in spite of evidence) you can't see this for what it is? Israel have complained a lot about unwra and Hamas being interlinked... they were caught with weapons in schools, they deleted messages when put under pressure by Hamas. They are compromised.

It's like your bias towards Israel is clouding everything else.