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Conflict in the Middle East
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OuiOuiKitty · 18/11/2023 12:55

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MorrisZapp · 18/11/2023 12:57

Thank goodness Sacha B C would never dream of using tired tropes and stereotypes to denigrate other communities.

AllWeAreSaying · 18/11/2023 12:59

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This sounds like a justification of the hateful rise of antisemitism, equating ordinary Jewish people worldwide with the actions of the Israeli government. So it’s perfectly okay to target Jewish people and spread antisemitic tropes then?

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MorrisZapp · 18/11/2023 12:57

Thank goodness Sacha B C would never dream of using tired tropes and stereotypes to denigrate other communities.

More whataboutery.

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OuiOuiKitty · 18/11/2023 13:00

AllWeAreSaying · 18/11/2023 12:59

This sounds like a justification of the hateful rise of antisemitism, equating ordinary Jewish people worldwide with the actions of the Israeli government. So it’s perfectly okay to target Jewish people and spread antisemitic tropes then?

Who said that? Not me. I said that there are no winners in this which is true. Sorry you don't feel that way.

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 13:27

Then why would you mention Israel?

backtowinter · 18/11/2023 13:47

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Every thread.

What about

backtowinter · 18/11/2023 13:55

OP he's right

See also the current tik tok trend of praising bin laden

It's quite worrying

Girahim · 18/11/2023 13:58

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There are a hundred other threads where you can discuss this.

OuiOuiKitty · 18/11/2023 13:59

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BeggyMitchell · 18/11/2023 14:00

He's right:

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 14:01

@OuiOuiKitty its not some people though is it? You did it.

OuiOuiKitty · 18/11/2023 14:03

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 14:01

@OuiOuiKitty its not some people though is it? You did it.

I said that there are no winners in this. Some people are the victims of antisemitism and some people are committing genocide - no winners. If there is a ceasefire it will all calm down and that is the truth. You can pretend it isn't but I really don't care.

Reallifelurker · 18/11/2023 14:05

Every thread.

What about

God forbid anyone should mention a humanitarian crisis on a board dedicated to discussing the conflict that’s causing it.

No-ones stopping you from discussing TicTok videos if that’s what you want.

backtowinter · 18/11/2023 14:11

Reallifelurker · 18/11/2023 14:05

Every thread.

What about

God forbid anyone should mention a humanitarian crisis on a board dedicated to discussing the conflict that’s causing it.

No-ones stopping you from discussing TicTok videos if that’s what you want.

I tend to stick to whatever the thread is about, which is kind of what Mumsnet is about

Jumping on every thread with whataboutism is just trying to stifle debate and doesn't add anything.

backtowinter · 18/11/2023 14:12

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 14:01

@OuiOuiKitty its not some people though is it? You did it.

Every thread.

BethDuttonsTwin · 18/11/2023 14:14

He’s right. And not just anti-semitism either. Cannot believe the praise and support Bin Laden’s disgusting justification for 9/11 letter is getting on that propaganda platform. The fluffy stupidity beggars belief. Millions of empty headed young people who wouldn’t know a real challenge if it bit them on the face have been convinced there is something super special in their very identities which convinces them they’re terribly vulnerable and oppressed in the safe, open societies they actually live in. Youngsters have always thought they knew it all. Difference is the grown ups weren’t too scared to tell them to STFU. Now their nonsense has the the support of politicians and is being written into laws and policy for us to live under. Loads of young activists for The Cause being created on there. Almost as though it’s being purposely driven…

I am sure most people will have seen this but it’s always worth a share. Yuri Bezmenov. And no I am not accusing any particular country of doing this. Draw your own opinions. I know what I think though. There’s a much longer video - over an hour which explains more.

KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview. Explains KGB Manipulation of US Public Opinion

KGB Operative/Soviet defector, Yuri Alexander Bezmenov, describes long standing Soviet Manipulation of the United States public opinion. A 1985 video intervi...

https://youtu.be/pOmXiapfCs8?si=ZeCMQtn1iN08DA32

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 18/11/2023 14:19

There seems to be an endless supply of useful idiots out there.

And no, this is not a personal insult but a social phenomenon.

Reallifelurker · 18/11/2023 14:20

I tend to stick to whatever the thread is about, which is kind of what Mumsnet is about

Is it?

Jumping on every thread with whataboutism is just trying to stifle debate and doesn't add anything.

Pretty much everything short of agreeing with the OP tends to be defined as whataboutism tbf.

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 14:20

@backtowinter Agreed. He is right. I’m surprised by the praising Bin Laden trend.

backtowinter · 18/11/2023 14:26

ChalkWitch · 18/11/2023 14:20

@backtowinter Agreed. He is right. I’m surprised by the praising Bin Laden trend.

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Sadly I'm not actually surprised.

Disgusted but not surprised

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 14:28

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AllWeAreSaying · 18/11/2023 14:28

‘Tiktok is creating the biggest antisemitic movement since the Nazis‘

No it isn’t and here’s why I think that = not whataboutery

or

be that as it may, censorship is unlikely to be a solution = also not whataboutery

there are a number of other far more interesting ways to respond or disagree with the quote from SBC without resorting to whataboutery

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mixgoal · 18/11/2023 14:29

Reallifelurker · 18/11/2023 14:20

I tend to stick to whatever the thread is about, which is kind of what Mumsnet is about

Is it?

Jumping on every thread with whataboutism is just trying to stifle debate and doesn't add anything.

Pretty much everything short of agreeing with the OP tends to be defined as whataboutism tbf.

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Any opinion on the actual topic of the thread or...?

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 14:30

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A few posts in and you're already victim blaming. typical. You're not antisemitic or anything, jus tthink Jews are to blame for the rise in antisemitism.