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Conflict in the Middle East

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2

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Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 22/10/2023 08:43

First thread here but it’s full
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4918938-to-think-its-turning-into-genocide-in-real-time?page=1

Medical Aid to Palestine posted this thread on facebook describing the scenes in Gaza as being like the last days of humanity with one of their staff members having to search through piles of bodies to find his 13 year old niece https://www.facebook.com/100064712829372/posts/pfbid028yxpzimtA3apA6CSs8dEhJBd16rYUQR6QjFidEpwRCZzPVYoeJezX8nDrtZP2UZRl/?app=fbl

The main stream press aren’t really addressing the horror of what is happening (bar maybe Channel 4 news and Al Jazeera) - it’s a sanitised version.

As I said in the original thread, there has been absolute horror on both sides but the Israeli government are inflicting collective punishment on the people of Gaza, which is a war crime under international law.

I still feel we are watching genocide in real time.

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time | Mumsnet

Just seen this on the news- how can this be right? It genuinely is starting to feel like genocide. What Hamas did was beyond appalling. But this i...

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eardefender · 28/10/2023 21:29

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eardefender · 28/10/2023 21:30

Sooooo much morality on here. Has anyone mentioned the 229 yet…….?

Tiredandgrumpy31 · 28/10/2023 21:31

Alliannna · 28/10/2023 21:16

OF COURSE I am not in any way endorsing the killing of children, what is happening now is horrifying...but Hamas need to be taken out so everyone can move together in peace...children need to be taught acceptance, not hate, otherwise this will never end. The normal people in Gaza will be far better off without Hanas.

The ‘normal’ people who don’t find themselves dead that is.

Sippingmytea · 28/10/2023 21:32

“A lot of the children in Gaza have been in camps since they were 5 yo teaching them to hate jews...that was the only point of these camps...Israel's response has been at military targets, albeit they are in civilian areas as that is hamas operandi but they are not targeting civilians, they are doing what they can to protect their country and people from terrorists. Gaza would also be better off not being ruled by terrorists.”

@Alliannna this nonsense doesn’t wash anymore. Nobody is falling for it. There’s is absolutely no excuse to kill thousands and thousands of innocent civilians.

SinnerBoy · 28/10/2023 21:33

Taught to accept having their land stolen? Taught to accept that they're going to be torn apart by bombs? Taught to accept that they can be shot on sight, even if they're unarmed?

Because that is the state of their affairs.

Sippingmytea · 28/10/2023 21:37

@eardefender I’ve reported your post. The majority of people on here do not support children being murdered. Trying to deflect by suggesting I’m a troll is pathetic.

HarrietPierce · 28/10/2023 21:40

Holocaust survivor Gabor Maté. If you won’t listen to him, you won’t listen to anyone. #CeaseFireInGaza

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1718265225504264670

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1718265225504264670

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 28/10/2023 21:41

I last had contact 2 weeks ago with a good friend of mine. Him and his wife only got married in February. They had their whole lives to look forward to. I very much doubt I'll ever hear from him again but I pray that I do. I'm finding the news very hard to watch

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 28/10/2023 22:18

Alliannna · 28/10/2023 20:12

A lot of the children in Gaza have been in camps since they were 5 yo teaching them to hate jews...that was the only point of these camps...Israel's response has been at military targets, albeit they are in civilian areas as that is hamas operandi but they are not targeting civilians, they are doing what they can to protect their country and people from terrorists. Gaza would also be better off not being ruled by terrorists.

Jesus wept, read the fucking room.

HarrietPierce · 28/10/2023 22:20

Read this Alliannna ·
Holocaust survivor Gabor Maté. If you won’t listen to him, you won’t listen to anyone. #CeaseFireInGaza

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1718265225504264670

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1718265225504264670

Iwasafool · 28/10/2023 22:29

eardefender · 28/10/2023 21:30

Sooooo much morality on here. Has anyone mentioned the 229 yet…….?

You mean the hostages who are being bombed by the IDF? Yes I think I mentioned them and how Israel needs to get them out but I suppose they don't think it is worth stopping the bombing to achieve that. If I was an Israeli mother with a child held hostage I would be so furious but I can't say what I'd like to do to a govt who is happy to bomb them rather than get them out, I'd get deleted or kicked off the site.

Alliannna · 28/10/2023 22:34

This is literally how the holocaust happened...go on support the terrorist and their persecution of Jewish people worldwide...if they're successful, they'll cone after the west too...I just can't fathom how people are supporting Hamas instead of Israel.....the only democracy in the ME, I don't agree with all of their policies but they are the best bet for peace.

Iwasafool · 28/10/2023 22:36

HarrietPierce · 28/10/2023 22:20

Read this Alliannna ·
Holocaust survivor Gabor Maté. If you won’t listen to him, you won’t listen to anyone. #CeaseFireInGaza

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1718265225504264670

That is powerful. I think he is a brave man.

Coughingdodger · 28/10/2023 23:02

Alliannna · 28/10/2023 22:34

This is literally how the holocaust happened...go on support the terrorist and their persecution of Jewish people worldwide...if they're successful, they'll cone after the west too...I just can't fathom how people are supporting Hamas instead of Israel.....the only democracy in the ME, I don't agree with all of their policies but they are the best bet for peace.

I agree totally. Supporting terrorists to bomb and murder thousands of innocent people is not ok.

MissyB1 · 28/10/2023 23:02

eardefender · 28/10/2023 21:30

Sooooo much morality on here. Has anyone mentioned the 229 yet…….?

The hostages that Israel seem happy to sacrifice?

eardefender · 28/10/2023 23:07

Iwasafool · 28/10/2023 22:29

You mean the hostages who are being bombed by the IDF? Yes I think I mentioned them and how Israel needs to get them out but I suppose they don't think it is worth stopping the bombing to achieve that. If I was an Israeli mother with a child held hostage I would be so furious but I can't say what I'd like to do to a govt who is happy to bomb them rather than get them out, I'd get deleted or kicked off the site.

Perhaps your beloved hamas could just give them back or not have dragged them off in the first place. Has that ever crossed your mind.

eardefender · 28/10/2023 23:09

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eardefender · 28/10/2023 23:10

MissyB1 · 28/10/2023 23:02

The hostages that Israel seem happy to sacrifice?

That’s a really vile post. Seriously.

Sippingmytea · 28/10/2023 23:11

“Your beloved Hamas”

Is that how low you have to stoop because the majority of people on here disagree with bombing thousands of innocent civilians?

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 28/10/2023 23:47

I really want to hate those who are OK with this genocide right now. But I actually don't. I feel sorry for them and wander what happened in their life to make their heart so cold and their souls numb to the despair and pain and death of innocents.

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 28/10/2023 23:56

I cannot believe we are living through this, watching Strictly, eating a Sat night Indian meal et etc.

I’ve avoided the media as much as I can. Instead I’ve been watching the livestreams pointed at Gaza.

It’s annihilation, day in, day out, night after night. It’s disproportionate, it’s raze to the ground, its scorched earth.

And the world is letting it happen.

What a wonderful recruitment exercise for radicalisation of Muslims across the world. What a horrific waste of lives. What a non-global mindset.

Look for the feeds yourself - the drones are constant, so bizarre to watch genocide in action on your iPad as it happens. And so revolting.

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 29/10/2023 01:47

https://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b7397-Gaza.htm

chloechloe · 29/10/2023 06:33

Alliannna · 28/10/2023 22:34

This is literally how the holocaust happened...go on support the terrorist and their persecution of Jewish people worldwide...if they're successful, they'll cone after the west too...I just can't fathom how people are supporting Hamas instead of Israel.....the only democracy in the ME, I don't agree with all of their policies but they are the best bet for peace.

I haven’t seen one person on here who is supporting Hamas. What they did was atrocious. But that doesn’t mean that Israel can use the Hamas attacks to justify annihilating Palestine. What Israel is doing goes way beyond trying to wipe out Hamas. I can’t believe anybody can be so simple as to think criticising Israel amounts to supporting Hamas.

Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 29/10/2023 06:59

This is literally how the holocaust happened...go on support the terrorist and their persecution of Jewish people worldwide...if they're successful, they'll cone after the west too...I just can't fathom how people are supporting Hamas instead of Israel.....the only democracy in the ME, I don't agree with all of their policies but they are the best bet for peace

@Alliannna no one on this thread supports Hamas. Not one single person has said anything like that at all.

But people are absolutely sickened and appalled by the slaughter of innocent Palestinians.

As I have said clearly accross both of these threads, most people can distingush between innocent Palestinians and Hamas.

Stop trying to make it otherwise.

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