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Conflict in the Middle East

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2

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Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 22/10/2023 08:43

First thread here but it’s full
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4918938-to-think-its-turning-into-genocide-in-real-time?page=1

Medical Aid to Palestine posted this thread on facebook describing the scenes in Gaza as being like the last days of humanity with one of their staff members having to search through piles of bodies to find his 13 year old niece https://www.facebook.com/100064712829372/posts/pfbid028yxpzimtA3apA6CSs8dEhJBd16rYUQR6QjFidEpwRCZzPVYoeJezX8nDrtZP2UZRl/?app=fbl

The main stream press aren’t really addressing the horror of what is happening (bar maybe Channel 4 news and Al Jazeera) - it’s a sanitised version.

As I said in the original thread, there has been absolute horror on both sides but the Israeli government are inflicting collective punishment on the people of Gaza, which is a war crime under international law.

I still feel we are watching genocide in real time.

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Just seen this on the news- how can this be right? It genuinely is starting to feel like genocide. What Hamas did was beyond appalling. But this i...

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Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 14:32

FOJN · 03/11/2023 14:22

It's utterly sickening that people keep repeating that Gazans have been advised to move south. There is nowhere safe for them to go and they cannot get out. The IDF have isolated Gaza city locking civilians there into an even smaller, rubble strewn prison.

Only a sick human, devoid of all empathy would continue to claim that the civilian population are too stupid or stubborn to move.

As for the claim Hamas are preventing them leaving; if you had a nice secure bunker with a tunnel network with plenty of supplies I doubt you'd be above ground directing traffic whilst bombs were raining down FFS.

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There actually is alot of gaslighting
Which is why I engage at a minimum with certain posters

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 14:40

Sippingmytea · 03/11/2023 14:15

@mydiaryisfull do why is Israel bombing people in the south?

Do you watch the news?

I don't know who is bombing anyone in the South - could be a Hamas stray rocket for all I know.

Anyway, yes I do watch The News.

Stop Press - News Announcement

Latest info is that the Hezbollah Leader has said that the Israel/Hamas war is the fault of the US.

I'm sure that now we can all sleep easy in our beds, knowing that we can blame anything that goes wrong with the wretched war on the Yanks 🙄

Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 14:54

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FOJN · 03/11/2023 15:33

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 14:40

I don't know who is bombing anyone in the South - could be a Hamas stray rocket for all I know.

Anyway, yes I do watch The News.

Stop Press - News Announcement

Latest info is that the Hezbollah Leader has said that the Israel/Hamas war is the fault of the US.

I'm sure that now we can all sleep easy in our beds, knowing that we can blame anything that goes wrong with the wretched war on the Yanks 🙄

Did you watch/listen to the whole speech? I did.

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 15:37

FOJN · 03/11/2023 15:33

Did you watch/listen to the whole speech? I did.

Sky News didn't broadcast the whole speech because it was terrorist linked.

And even if they, had, I don't speak Farsi.

They just gave a few bullet points.

FOJN · 03/11/2023 15:44

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Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 03/11/2023 15:56

@FOJN don't waste your time

My diary is full has already decided what she thinks.

I appreciate your efforts but if they don't want to see, they won't.

CosimoPiovasco · 03/11/2023 17:33

Israeli bombs hit ambulances leaving the hospital
Recent update.

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2
To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2
Sippingmytea · 03/11/2023 19:19

The footage from the bombs dropped outside the hospital today are horrific. Absolutely vile.

CosimoPiovasco · 03/11/2023 19:30

Palestinian Red Cross reporting on the ambulance bombing .
They we’re taking critical patients to the border.

Everyone had been notified
The convoy was targeted.
Are Israel going to say they were defending themselves
What sort of sick army bombs an ambulance convoy and hospitals

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2
MissyB1 · 03/11/2023 19:58

So the IDF are saying they bombed an ambulance because they believe Hamas were using it to transport ammunition.

ffs! 🙄😡

CosimoPiovasco · 03/11/2023 20:11

MissyB1 · 03/11/2023 19:58

So the IDF are saying they bombed an ambulance because they believe Hamas were using it to transport ammunition.

ffs! 🙄😡

Yes🤣. Well there’s a surprise.
The WHO has told Israel….prove it.

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 20:47

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What are you talking about ??

I don't control what Sky broadcasts.

And what has my not speaking Farsi got to do with principles ???

Baffled. 🤔

ssd · 03/11/2023 21:01

CosimoPiovasco · 03/11/2023 20:11

Yes🤣. Well there’s a surprise.
The WHO has told Israel….prove it.

Ach, they'll say the WHO is antisemitic and ban their visas...

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 21:46

FOJN · 03/11/2023 14:22

It's utterly sickening that people keep repeating that Gazans have been advised to move south. There is nowhere safe for them to go and they cannot get out. The IDF have isolated Gaza city locking civilians there into an even smaller, rubble strewn prison.

Only a sick human, devoid of all empathy would continue to claim that the civilian population are too stupid or stubborn to move.

As for the claim Hamas are preventing them leaving; if you had a nice secure bunker with a tunnel network with plenty of supplies I doubt you'd be above ground directing traffic whilst bombs were raining down FFS.

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It's utterly sickening that people keep repeating that Gazans have been advised to move south.

They were advised to move in the middle of Oct before the war started in earnest.

Only a sick human, devoid of all empathy would continue to claim that the civilian population are too stupid or stubborn to move.

No-one has said this ^ no-one. at. all. So please stop your emotive, inflammatory, rhetoric.

As for the claim Hamas are preventing them leaving; if you had a nice secure bunker with a tunnel network with plenty of supplies I doubt you'd be above ground directing traffic whilst bombs were raining down FFS.

This explains why Hamas won't let them leave

It isn't the IDF's fault that Hamas are a bunch of murdering psychopaths.

However, it is made very clear in the Hamas Charter, which identified Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors". The charter states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic State in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.

Hamas Senior Officials Explain Why They Keep Gazan Civilians in Danger

If you want to know why Hamas is preventing civilians in Gaza from evacuating, watch until the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVmUYw8llxY

ssd · 03/11/2023 22:09

Bollocks. Utter bollocks.

There's no excuse for this. NONE.

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:13

MissyB1 · 03/11/2023 19:58

So the IDF are saying they bombed an ambulance because they believe Hamas were using it to transport ammunition.

ffs! 🙄😡

That is incorrect. They targeted it because they say it was carrying Hamas Operatives/Fighters

I've seen the footage and all the dead/wounded are men, which is strange?

None of them look like they were seriously ill ICU patients. None have drips inserted or any medical equipment attached to them, oxygen, fixation screws, casts, splint boots, bandages, catheter bags. etc etc

Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 22:18

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:13

That is incorrect. They targeted it because they say it was carrying Hamas Operatives/Fighters

I've seen the footage and all the dead/wounded are men, which is strange?

None of them look like they were seriously ill ICU patients. None have drips inserted or any medical equipment attached to them, oxygen, fixation screws, casts, splint boots, bandages, catheter bags. etc etc

Can you please share a link of where you saw the footage of those injured receiving treatment inside the hospital?

Sippingmytea · 03/11/2023 22:18

@mydiaryisfull Wow. Just wow

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:20

"They we’re taking critical patients to the border."

None of the wounded/dead that I saw look like they were 'critically ill'.

And as I said in another post they were all men.

Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 22:21

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:20

"They we’re taking critical patients to the border."

None of the wounded/dead that I saw look like they were 'critically ill'.

And as I said in another post they were all men.

Are you a doctor?
And I saw footage that showed many wounded children too
So I'm not sure which one you saw that only showed men

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:23

Sippingmytea · 03/11/2023 22:18

@mydiaryisfull Wow. Just wow

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What is your point ??

ssd · 03/11/2023 22:25

mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:20

"They we’re taking critical patients to the border."

None of the wounded/dead that I saw look like they were 'critically ill'.

And as I said in another post they were all men.

Watch Al Jazeera. They showed the road with bodies lying twisted on it. Including very small bodies.

Your whitewash isn't working.

SolomonEdGrundy · 03/11/2023 22:25

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mydiaryisfull · 03/11/2023 22:27

Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 22:21

Are you a doctor?
And I saw footage that showed many wounded children too
So I'm not sure which one you saw that only showed men

No I'm not a doctor but I've worked in Casualty.

A 'critically ill' patient is one that can't survive without medical intervention - drip, oxygen, intubation. Usually they are transported with a nurse/technician.

I didn't see anyone of that category.

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