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Conflict in the Middle East

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2

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Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 22/10/2023 08:43

First thread here but it’s full
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4918938-to-think-its-turning-into-genocide-in-real-time?page=1

Medical Aid to Palestine posted this thread on facebook describing the scenes in Gaza as being like the last days of humanity with one of their staff members having to search through piles of bodies to find his 13 year old niece https://www.facebook.com/100064712829372/posts/pfbid028yxpzimtA3apA6CSs8dEhJBd16rYUQR6QjFidEpwRCZzPVYoeJezX8nDrtZP2UZRl/?app=fbl

The main stream press aren’t really addressing the horror of what is happening (bar maybe Channel 4 news and Al Jazeera) - it’s a sanitised version.

As I said in the original thread, there has been absolute horror on both sides but the Israeli government are inflicting collective punishment on the people of Gaza, which is a war crime under international law.

I still feel we are watching genocide in real time.

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Just seen this on the news- how can this be right? It genuinely is starting to feel like genocide. What Hamas did was beyond appalling. But this i...

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Coughingdodger · 30/10/2023 10:10

mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:08

@Coughingdodger Israel gave up the Gaza strip in 2005, they don't want it back !

Let’s see.
When all the Gazans are dead, traumatised, homeless and driven off.
Let’s see.

Weddingpuzzle · 30/10/2023 10:11

@mydiaryisfull I explain further down in my last post that Iran is a very big problem, sending patronising links to show what I have already said is deflection. Answer my questions. You keep saying 'Hamas are the aggressors' as though Israel are only responding with targeted attacks on 25,000 Hamas members. As though that is it, simple retaliation. Iran are funding the war in Yemen, okay. What is the long term plan if Israel get into conflict with Iran? What is the plan if Russia join with Iran? Again, I make the point. Israel need to show a responsibility when retaliating against terrorists, when escalation has wider consequences on Jewish people world wide and if the world becomes less safer for everyone overall. That escalation will lie with Israel.

Ohlalalalala · 30/10/2023 10:14

mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:08

@Coughingdodger Israel gave up the Gaza strip in 2005, they don't want it back !

"Gave up"! As if it was theirs in the first place. Are you paid by the number of posts or per "mission"? I find your attempts at justifying the unjustifiable and trying to derail the thread simply ludicrous.

SeeReality · 30/10/2023 10:19

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mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:23

@Weddingpuzzle "Answer my questions"

Err excuse me - I'm not answerable to you or anyone else despite what you may demand.

Go and bully someone else.

mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:28

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My answer is that I have no idea and even if I did, I wouldn't be in a position to control the outcome.

Buying an Uzi. might be a smart move 🙄

Sorry I can't help you. 🙂

mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:29

Ohlalalalala · 30/10/2023 10:14

"Gave up"! As if it was theirs in the first place. Are you paid by the number of posts or per "mission"? I find your attempts at justifying the unjustifiable and trying to derail the thread simply ludicrous.

Then don't engage - simple.

Weddingpuzzle · 30/10/2023 10:37

mydiaryisfull · 30/10/2023 10:01

@Weddingpuzzle "This is why I'm asking what the long term plan is for the day after the war has ended - it's important to know what the plan is to make an assessment of intentionality."

With all due respect, I think that's rather a silly question because no-one involved in this conflict will give you, me or anyone else without very high security clearance an answer..

Well, with all due respect, your point is that 'this is all on Hamas'.

You have no idea of the power and intentions at play here. Just like I don't. So being married to your hypothesis that this is 'all on Hamas' which you have clearly done, with your very own words and seem absolutely sure of is....a bit silly.

Ohlalalalala · 30/10/2023 10:51

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mydiaryisfull · 31/10/2023 07:24

@SeeReality As soon as the Jews declared the State of Israel in 1948 5 (yes five) Arab States)* *declared war on her.
These were Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria.

Iran (and Hamas) have part of their constitution the commitment to the annihilation of the State of Israel.
Hezbollah (also backed by Iran) has a central ideology focusing on expelling western powers from the Middle East and on rejecting Israel’s right to exist.

And you wonder why Israel feels unsafe?

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 08:44

So much for targeting Hamas
Israel are committing war crimes

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2
Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 08:56

A whole family wiped out in their beds
Just one of thousands already murdered
In Gaza there are no safe places to go
And it doesn't matter who you are
Everyone and everything is a legitimate target for Israel

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Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 10:03

Yes they feel so unsafe right now whilst they are going about their daily lives...

bness · 31/10/2023 10:21

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 10:03

Yes they feel so unsafe right now whilst they are going about their daily lives...

The geolocation tags show beach parties, brunches and parties, and tons of videos (civilians and IDF mocking Palestinians) IDF soldiers spending time in this "war" making tiktok videos.

Efacsen · 31/10/2023 10:30

@bness think you might have tagged the wrong poster -@Fairtobefairohhhhhc was talking about the UN worker and family who died yesterday?

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 10:30

@bness exactly.... imagine feeling so unsafe yet you can go to a club...

I've seen the knocking videos..it was sickening. And parents getting their kids to do it too. Singing they are dancing on the cemetery of palestimian children. And chanting there is no more gaza because the children are dead. If that's not the work.of the devil then I don't know what is.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 10:32

Yes I should have been more clear I was responding to my diary who is full who's ays Israel feels unsafe. I was being sarcastic.

Because how unsafe do they feel if they are on the beach and partying???

Efacsen · 31/10/2023 10:45

Sorry @Fairtobefairohhhhhc and @bness teach me not to try to be helpful

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 12:02

Amazing isn't it. Israel says it doesn't apply to them then the world goes, oh OK! Our bad!

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 12:07

There is a worrying increase of genocidal rhetoric being openly said unchallenged by the right wing members of the Israeli government.

For example this is an outrageous statement to make but where is the outrage?

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Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 12:08

Coughingdodger · 31/10/2023 11:53

Guardian article about Israel saying the International Criminal Court doesn’t apply to them.

I find this troubling. How can the US allow this? I don’t get it at all.

The Israeli government have always been dismissive of the ICC
as you can see they are of any organisation who calls them out on their crimes

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 31/10/2023 12:12

I was talking to a friend yesterday. She kept going on about the news on TV. So I showed her all the accounts from those in palestine yesterday especially motaz_azaiza and byplestia and she was genuinely confused because it was the first she had seen it. She said she was shocked and could t believe this was being allowed. So it just shows. If you aren't looking for the truth and just watch mainstream news you will believe what you see. Or what they want you to see

To think it’s turning into genocide in real time part 2