TTC/Pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 8

[Arianrhod]

A positive thread for all those diagnosed with High or Very High NK Cells and looking to start TTC or already pregnant on Prednisolone and/or Intralipid treatment.

Newcomers very much welcome!

Part 7 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1452035-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-7

Part 6 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1419032-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-6

Part 5 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1391787-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-5

Part 4 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1366323-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-4

Part 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1348773-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-3

Part 2 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1323594-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-2

Part 1 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1236324-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar

Thought I'd start us all off with our fresh shiny new thread, since I found the old one already full!

sigh .. just realised I didn't make all the previous thread links as actual clickable links. Oh well, cut-and-paste always works for me :)

Hopefully I've PMd everyone the new link, apologies if I missed anyone off unintentionally and more apologies if I PMd anyone twice!

Ari I have just started one too so we will use this one! Great minds think alike!!! I will try and close the one I started!

Pico you are entitled to feel depressed with your history as it's a long time to be trying with no success. I agree that this thread has been my life saver as its the only place where everyone can empathise. I found that once I had been on the steroids for a couple of cycles I didn't feel as depressed. The first month was always the worst.

I do find it annoying that Mr S will only do certain tests but then I guess he does have a high success rate with his treatment plan so why change it? It's hard to know if any of the others are trying to fleece us for as many tests as possible as we are so desperate or if they are acting in our best interests. I think as we get older, the eggs are not as good quality so statistically we will lose more pregnancies regardless of NKCs/infections etc. It's hard to know which eggs would work even after throwing all the drugs at them.

I did another CB digital POAS today and it's still saying 5+ weeks so I am now counting down the days until Thurs eve. Paranoid that there will be nothing there or no heartbeat as I don't feel pregnant. I know the steroids can mask the symptoms but I am still worried!

Holldoll I tend to get faint BFPs at 10dpo but not earlier with first response so it is still early days for you yet. Good luck!

Waves to everyone else.

Ok, adding in my stats, does make me feel a bit gloomy doing this but it's v interesting to read what everyone has gone through. Goodness what a resilient lot we are!

Preg 1. Resulted in DD born in Jan 2007. No probs in pregnancy at all. (previous partner)
Preg 2. MC Dec 2010 at 9.5 weeks, baby died around 6 weeks
Preg 3. MC Feb 2011 at 5.5 weeks
Preg 4. MC July 2011 at 9.5 wks, baby died at 8.6 weeks
Preg 5. MC Dec 2011 at 5.5 weeks. High dose pred/intralipids/aspirin.
Preg 6. MC May 2012 at 4.5 weeks. Did not take pred that cycle, was on hydroxy. First cycle on superov.

sue Whoops ... :) Sorry, I just saw there wasn't one and started one, obviously we were thinking the same thing!

pico I'll echo exactly what sue said - you are absolutely entitled to feeling low, after everything you've gone through and over such a long period of time. Well done you for not giving up!

sue Agree with everything you say about tests and eggs. I'm still determined to get OH tested, along with the hidden infections thing, as without it I feel we've only got half a picture.

Very best of luck for you for Thursday, am so crossing every possible limb for you!

And holldoll lots of luck for you too, hope this is the month!

/waves to everyone

Hello. Just popping on to mark my place as I put the other link on the "I'm Watching" so want to over-ride that by having the "real" one on "Threads I'm on" .

Sue, it sounds promising that your CB Digi is still showing 5+ wks. Fingers crossed for your scan on Thursday.

I'm on CD5 today. Got my tracking scan next Monday, where I will also get Mr S's lowdown on my depressing test results. Hoping for a combination of post hysterscopy fertility, revised SO treatment success, Lucky Number 7 pregnancy and my friend's dad's "woooo" numerology forecast that I will get pregnant in June (that last one, I'm taking with a HUGE pinch of salt ).

pico, I really feel for you. I am struggling enough as it is with the steroids but you must really dread the idea of going back on them, given how you've been feeling the last few months. When do you have your appointment to see your GP about Thyroid tests? If it turns out to be a thyroid problem at least you know you can treat that and then the steroids may not be so daunting.

Feeling rather blue at the moment. Really missing my mum. PMT followed by hormonal drugs probably not helping.

choccy, how are you doing? I've had 3 appointments so far with my bereavement counselor. I'm finding it quite helpful. Just somewhere to unravel the thoughts in my head and let off steam.

Are we using this one? Just a quickie to mark my place as I realise I have missed a lot from the other one. I will bring the list over, am thinking of a way to add the new stats into it in short form.

Hi, just marking my place. Thanks for starting the new thread/s Ari and Sue.

Pico so sorry you are feeling low. The grim weather doesn't help either. We're all here for you.

I may be being a stick in the mud, but I can't help wondering whether there is actually any point in comparing our pregnancy histories. What will it achieve? I mean, we tried to compare stuff on dugg's list previously and I can't see how it's helped us. The one person who had the highest NK Cells, free, is just about to have a baby, then there are others who have much lower levels who are still struggling to get pregnant.

Looking at that old Google Docs chart we did ages ago, and seeing the outcome a year or so later, I think even a doctor or scientist would struggle to find a pattern so I'm not sure what chance we think we have!

Thanks for new thread, just marking my place & back soon

Have tried to briefly squash our mc/pregnancy histories into the list too. Please feel free to add/ammend!

Help! Is Gransol a name changer or someone I have missed! Sorry - been out in the countryside all weekend with no internet access.

Mon 11th June

The babies are arriving!

Stogan - V high NKC - cycle#2, DC#1, Baby girl Ellyson (DC1) born Sunday (EMCS) 11/03/12 7lb13.5.
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2, Baby boy Franco (DS2) born at 39+0 on Easter Monday, 9/04/12, 8 lbs 12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks, Baby boy Arthur born at 40+6 13/05/12 3.66kg
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2, baby girl Matilda born DC#2 ? 39 weeks (ELCS) 14/5/12 7 lbs.
Igggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2, DC#2- Baby boy Thomas born (ELCS) at 38+6 16/5/12
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3, DC#1 40+0 - baby girl Amelia born 7/06/12 (ELCS) 7lbs

BFP 3rd Trimester

Freelance - TTC#1 V High NKC Thyroid/hashimotos - 4mcs (one on 1st Pred cycle) heart stopped around 7-8 weeks, Hydroxy, Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest, . DC#1 33+6 Next appt/scan, 22nd June EDD 24/07/12 by LMP, 22/07 by Nuchal
Cheerfulcharlie - TTC#1 V High NKC, MTHFR, DC#2/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 33+6 EDD 24/07/12
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. DC#1 BFP cycle 3. 30+5
coleyoz - V High NKC. DC#2, BFP cycle2, 30+

2nd Trimester

FrozenNorthPole - RMC, NKC status unknown, Cyclogest, aspirin, 25+5
Mercator - V High NKC, TTC#2. 25+4
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2. - 24+5
dunnit - V High NKC - , IVIG, Cyclogest and Clexane. 24+5
PQ77 - V High NKC TTC #2 (BFP cycle one but mc) 20+1 Next scan @ 20 weeks

1st Trimester

HelterSkelter (IVF and immune therapy) 9+3

To be added to shortly...

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - SO/IUI/IVF

Suemays - TTC#2 DD, followed by 5mcs all 6-8 weeks. V High NKC, TTC #2. Superov. (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) 6+6 Scan 14th June

EchoJuliet Preg 1 - awaiting diagnosis, MC 10 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6w), mc 20w, mc at 8 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6.5w).
Pinkdragon - High NKC. Pred Daughter (after 4 mcs) TTC #2, super ov.
duggs1976 - TTC#1 4 mcs all 7-12 weeks. High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - IVF cycle #1 ?pred, intrallipids, metformin, clexane, cylogest
Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 -10 pred ? 3rd cycle SO
Abney (44), TTC#2, SO 2, 6 MC No pred (2 chromosone, 4 unexplained), 1 DS Pred Cycle 1 & fragmin, 4 MC on Pred (1 fragmin),
eurochick - TTC#1 High NKC, pred cycle 6, had 3 cycles of Super Ov, now on 2nd cycle of IUI No BFP in 20+ cycles of trying
Pebbles - TTC#1 High NKC, PCOS, super ov cycle 1 (post IVF - 1 chemical, 1 mc, 2nd chemical on treatment/IVF
Arianrhod - TTC#2 11 pregnancies (mcs + chromosomal) DD 7th preg, V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)

TTC
London - High NKC, April - mc on treatment.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine). April - mc on treatment.
Willitbe - TTC#4 DS, DD, 1 mc, DS2, followed by 11mcs, gen 6-8 weeks. NKC not tested, TTC #4 cycle 2 (after m/c 12) Fertility consultant
prescribed pred.
GreenOlives - High NKC, TTC#2, have decided to only take Pred from BFP
picolina - TTC#1 4 mcs, all around 6 weeks. V High NKC MC on treatment
Holldoll - TTC #2 High NKC - Pred, Cyclogest & aspirin. DS followed by 4 mcs, heart stopped around 5-6wk. Mc in March 2012 on treatment. Pred started at BFP.
Lemonsherbet - TTC#1 v high/high NK, Mthfr, thyroid issues, pred 1st trim & Intralipids 2nd on bfp
buster76 -V High NKC, Factor V Leiden.
BellyD - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, TTC#1 cycle 2, hydroxychloroquine
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)
Carebear1 - V high NKC

Current status?

Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2
Breezyweezy - V High NKC - TTC#1
AandRmum - High NKC
Cornflakes30 - V High NKC, underactive thyroid
Brownstag - V High NKC, 3 yo DS is a Pred Baby! TTC #2
Zoeella V.high NKC, Factor V Leiden. abandoned IVF, pos PCOS\

Gransol - Seven mcs - all losses between 6 & 7 weeks

I think there is some value in adding our pregnancy histories. Particularly for new people who are looking for answers. We are initially here because we (with a couple of exceptions) have had recurrent miscarriages rather than struggled to conceive, although the latter seems to have emerged with a strong connection to high NKC since we've been here. Maybe that was something we didn't realise before we all started comparing experiences?

Also it seems like there are in fact some patterns emerging - that as well as quite a few chemicals very few pregnancies have made it passed 9 weeks. To a newbie who hadn't yet been diagnosed with high NKC that might help ring some alarm bells.

I personally found out about NKC on the miscarriage forum here - the recurrent buns thread - which no longer seems active. So I am guessing that is one way it might be helpful to others if not to us who have already been diagnosed.

And when you do see people, such as myself, who so far on the 5th pregnancy has managed to carry a pregnancy to 34 weeks despite having one of the highest levels of NKC maybe that can help provide some positive views too (although I realise I am not home and dry yet!). And then there are people like Willitbe who has said so many miscarriages now after 3 healthy pregnancies. And Euro who has HNKC and has never had a BFP. Not everyone would have known that, and I feel the more experiences we have on here the better in terms of trying to understand what is going on and also, again, helping other people find their way to treatment.

Kittens I find the history of everyone is helping me get through the early weeks of pregnancy as the majority of us seem to lose our pregnancies in weeks 4-6 so I have more hope with every day I get through. It is also helping me that quite a few of the 2nd and 3rd trimester ladies and those with the newborns have had 6 or 7 miscarriages followed by success.

It is quite depressing seeing how many we have all lost but at least we are all in good company! There are also not many who have lost pregnancies after being on the hydroxy for longer than 6 weeks as well as the steroids. I dont think we can count the chemicals as they were probably more likely down to bad eggs or implantation problems so once the pregnancy is established after a few weeks the hydroxy seems to have a good success rate. Maybe I am just clutching at straws????

Sorry to hear you are feeling down too today and missing your mum - I agree that the weather doesn't help when you are feeling low already. I am glad the counselling is helping.

Just amending my entry in the list, I certainly haven't had 11 pregnancies or DD on the 7th try??

Mon 11th June

The babies are arriving!

Stogan - V high NKC - cycle#2, DC#1, Baby girl Ellyson (DC1) born Sunday (EMCS) 11/03/12 7lb13.5.
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2, Baby boy Franco (DS2) born at 39+0 on Easter Monday, 9/04/12, 8 lbs 12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks, Baby boy Arthur born at 40+6 13/05/12 3.66kg
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2, baby girl Matilda born DC#2 ? 39 weeks (ELCS) 14/5/12 7 lbs.
Igggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2, DC#2- Baby boy Thomas born (ELCS) at 38+6 16/5/12
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3, DC#1 40+0 - baby girl Amelia born 7/06/12 (ELCS) 7lbs

BFP 3rd Trimester

Freelance - TTC#1 V High NKC Thyroid/hashimotos - 4mcs (one on 1st Pred cycle) heart stopped around 7-8 weeks, Hydroxy, Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest, . DC#1 33+6 Next appt/scan, 22nd June EDD 24/07/12 by LMP, 22/07 by Nuchal
Cheerfulcharlie - TTC#1 V High NKC, MTHFR, DC#2/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 33+6 EDD 24/07/12
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. DC#1 BFP cycle 3. 30+5
coleyoz - V High NKC. DC#2, BFP cycle2, 30+

2nd Trimester

FrozenNorthPole - RMC, NKC status unknown, Cyclogest, aspirin, 25+5
Mercator - V High NKC, TTC#2. 25+4
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2. - 24+5
dunnit - V High NKC - , IVIG, Cyclogest and Clexane. 24+5
PQ77 - V High NKC TTC #2 (BFP cycle one but mc) 20+1 Next scan @ 20 weeks

1st Trimester

HelterSkelter (IVF and immune therapy) 9+3

To be added to shortly...

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - SO/IUI/IVF

Suemays - TTC#2 DD, followed by 5mcs all 6-8 weeks. V High NKC, TTC #2. Superov. (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) 6+6 Scan 14th June

EchoJuliet Preg 1 - awaiting diagnosis, MC 10 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6w), mc 20w, mc at 8 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6.5w).
Pinkdragon - High NKC. Pred Daughter (after 4 mcs) TTC #2, super ov.
duggs1976 - TTC#1 4 mcs all 7-12 weeks. High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - IVF cycle #1 ?pred, intrallipids, metformin, clexane, cylogest
Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 -10 pred ? 3rd cycle SO
Abney (44), TTC#2, SO 2, 6 MC No pred (2 chromosone, 4 unexplained), 1 DS Pred Cycle 1 & fragmin, 4 MC on Pred (1 fragmin),
eurochick - TTC#1 High NKC, pred cycle 6, had 3 cycles of Super Ov, now on 2nd cycle of IUI No BFP in 20+ cycles of trying
Pebbles - TTC#1 High NKC, PCOS, super ov cycle 1 (post IVF - 1 chemical, 1 mc, 2nd chemical on treatment/IVF
Arianrhod - TTC#2 DD then 5 mcs 5-9 wks (2 on treatment), V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)

TTC
London - High NKC, April - mc on treatment.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine). April - mc on treatment.
Willitbe - TTC#4 DS, DD, 1 mc, DS2, followed by 11mcs, gen 6-8 weeks. NKC not tested, TTC #4 cycle 2 (after m/c 12) Fertility consultant
prescribed pred.
GreenOlives - High NKC, TTC#2, have decided to only take Pred from BFP
picolina - TTC#1 4 mcs, all around 6 weeks. V High NKC MC on treatment
Holldoll - TTC #2 High NKC - Pred, Cyclogest & aspirin. DS followed by 4 mcs, heart stopped around 5-6wk. Mc in March 2012 on treatment. Pred started at BFP.
Lemonsherbet - TTC#1 v high/high NK, Mthfr, thyroid issues, pred 1st trim & Intralipids 2nd on bfp
buster76 -V High NKC, Factor V Leiden.
BellyD - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, TTC#1 cycle 2, hydroxychloroquine
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)
Carebear1 - V high NKC

Current status?

Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2
Breezyweezy - V High NKC - TTC#1
AandRmum - High NKC
Cornflakes30 - V High NKC, underactive thyroid
Brownstag - V High NKC, 3 yo DS is a Pred Baby! TTC #2
Zoeella V.high NKC, Factor V Leiden. abandoned IVF, pos PCOS\

Gransol - Seven mcs - all losses between 6 & 7 weeks

Sorry - I think I got Abney mixed up with you Ari when I looked down the list!

lol I wondered if that was it, gave me a bit of a scare! :)

Hello! Just book marking. I am really impressed with the levels of determination shown by all the ladies on this thread towards achieveing their goal. I had 3 miscarriages before this pg, and all showed heart beats, and all were only picked up on scans.

All ok here - weather is dreadful, but nothing to report otherwise!

Kittens I too am sorry you are feeling low today and missing your mum. It's heartbreaking that you have lost her and I really can't imagine how you get through. I guess you just do. Same for Choccy too. Pico was feeling low too, I remember from the last thread, sorry to everyone having these downs. And yes, the weather is shit.

Funnily enough, regarding the miscarriage thing, it can hit me again unexpectedly this weekend. In my NCT class on Saturday I have consistently been my usual chatty self, trying to make sure it was enjoyable as well as helpful. Hey, let's face it I was there to make Baby Friends seeing that I don't really have any old friends where I am now. But at the end of the class the leader asked us all to, in a circle, say how we are now feeling about the forthcoming pregnancy. I was last in the circle, had they started with me I think I would have been fine, but listening to every single one of them say how excited they were and how they had been looking forward to meeting their little one etc etc just pushed me over the edge. Everyone was just so excited and positive!

As it got closer and closer to my turn I just knew I was going to choke on my words. DH, standing next to me, said it had been a long journey getting here and by the time he had got that out I just managed to splutter that I just wanted everything to be ok and then start crying in front of everyone. I think everyone found it quite a shock as I'd been the lively, smiley one before that! Everyone went very quiet and there were a few more tears held back.

There is a final session, a girls only one, on Friday so am thinking maybe I better offer a short explanation, without wanting to freak anyone out of course. Wondering how I can let them know I've been pregnant now for, with two very short breaks for bleeding, crying and heavy drinking, for 18 months and yes, the only thing I want now is for Everything to be OK.

Hello ladies, just marking my place. Im on my phone at mo so could someone add my history please?
Pregnancy 1 - DS born June 2008
Pregnancy 2 - Miscarriage at 7 weeks Nov 2009 (heartbeat seen but smaller than dates)
Pregnancy 3 - Miscarriage at 7 weeks December 2010
Pregnancy 4 - Ectopic October 2011, left tube removed
Pregnancy 5 - Chemical pregnancy Dec 2011
Saw Dr S after this and diagnosed with slightly high NKC.

Oh, bless you free. I can well imagine it must be very strange to be surrounded by the "blissfully naive". It's something we all envy so much to be in that position where the normal trials of pregnancy are the only things to get stressed about whilst pregnant. I'm sure they will all understand. You may even find that a couple of them have been being stoical and have bad experiences of their own.

Well, as everyone else is adding their MC/pregnancy histories I guess I will add mine too. Even though, as I said, I'm not sure how it can shed any light on our fact finding missions.

Preg 1 - Started bleeding 10.5wks, MMC, stopped developing at 8wks
Preg 2 - Downs Syndrome discovered at 12 wk scan after CVS - termination
Preg 3 - As above
Preg 4 - MMC discovered at 8wk scan, stopped developing around 5/6wks
Preg 5 - As above
Preg 6 - Scan at 6wks, not fetal pole, repeat scan 8wks still nothing (Asprin & "TLC")

All conceived within 1-3 cycles. Now, 18 months since my last mc, there is tumbleweed and sand blowing through my womb.

kittens sorry to hear you're missing your mum. So glad that the bereavement counseller is helping. Obviously there is no expiry date on grief, and everyone is different, but it's been 11 months since dad passed away and I am only just beginning to feel a bit better. For many months I thought I was never going to lift my head above the black cloud.

free i think it's great that you shared that with your group - upsetting but now it's out there. I think it's really healthy to talk about it now - it can sneak up on you and it can also strike when you're little one is here and old memories come rushing back (sorry, i am the PND police and it is something I really care about and worry about for other people).

sue I'll be thinking of you on Thursday. Anyone else have a significant date this week? euro remind me when you start on your next phase?

echojuliet i think you were wondering about how attacking the nk cells in the first 12weeks can help later on. As I think free said, Dr Beer's book ("is your body baby friendly")does offer an explanation and hopefully Mr S will explain it to you clearly - write a list of questions and don't leave his office until you are perfectly clear! I unashamedly take a list and tick questions off as we go along (this goes for any Dr/midwife appt...I am a bit of a pain in the butt).

In case anyone is interested in donor eggs, a friend has just had an IVF transfer abroad (W. Europe). Was very quick, straightforward and not as expensive as one might think - and of course all properly above board and regulated by the appropriate authorities. I can get hold of the details if anyone would like to learn more. Hope me mentioning this doesn't offend or upset anyone, it's just that I was v interested in how easy it was (as "easy" as IVF can be of course).

To the extent that this is helpful - i think someone asked who'd had a mc on Nk treatment - i am another one.

From 2008 to date:
para1 - 6 weeks
para2 - 6 weeks
para3 - DS born. Aspirin (+ had tonsils removed at suggestion of consultant who thought i had chronic inflammation response throughout my body. Had the tonsillectomy massive dose of anti b's 2 weeks before I conceived and massage treatment to reduce inflammation in first trimester)
para4 - mmc (heart stopped around 8 weeks) ERPC
para5 - blighted ovum. ERPC
para6 -6 weeks
para7 - 6 weeks (on NK treatment - normal level)
para 8 - currently 20 weeks. High NK treatment this time. Also made some lifestyle and dietary changes and added selenium for first trimester.

Big hello to everyone else. Have just got off the phone to a friend and we agreed that this weather is making us both MISERABLE.

I really should be doing some work as done sod all this morning! but here are kittens, olives and PQs details added to list.

Mon 11th June

The babies are arriving!

Stogan - V high NKC - cycle#2, DC#1, Baby girl Ellyson (DC1) born Sunday (EMCS) 11/03/12 7lb13.5.
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2, Baby boy Franco (DS2) born at 39+0 on Easter Monday, 9/04/12, 8 lbs 12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks, Baby boy Arthur born at 40+6 13/05/12 3.66kg
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2, baby girl Matilda born DC#2 ? 39 weeks (ELCS) 14/5/12 7 lbs.
Igggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2, DC#2- Baby boy Thomas born (ELCS) at 38+6 16/5/12
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3, DC#1 40+0 - baby girl Amelia born 7/06/12 (ELCS) 7lbs

BFP 3rd Trimester

Freelance - TTC#1 V High NKC Thyroid/hashimotos - 4mcs (one on 1st Pred cycle) heart stopped around 7-8 weeks, Hydroxy, Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest, . DC#1 33+6 Next appt/scan, 22nd June EDD 24/07/12 by LMP, 22/07 by Nuchal
Cheerfulcharlie - TTC#1 V High NKC, MTHFR, DC#2/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 33+6 EDD 24/07/12
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. DC#1 BFP cycle 3. 30+5
coleyoz - V High NKC. DC#2, BFP cycle2, 30+

2nd Trimester

FrozenNorthPole - RMC, NKC status unknown, Cyclogest, aspirin, 25+5
Mercator - V High NKC, TTC#2. 25+4
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2. - 24+5
dunnit - V High NKC - , IVIG, Cyclogest and Clexane. 24+5
PQ77 - TTC #2, 2 mcs, then DS, followed by 4 mcs - 6-8 weeks. V High NKC (BFP cycle one but mc) 20+1 Next scan @ 20 weeks

1st Trimester

HelterSkelter (IVF and immune therapy) 9+3

To be added to shortly...

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - SO/IUI/IVF

Suemays - TTC#2 DD, followed by 5mcs all 6-8 weeks. V High NKC, TTC #2. Superov. (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) 6+6 Scan 14th June

EchoJuliet Preg 1 - awaiting diagnosis, MC 10 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6w), mc 20w, mc at 8 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6.5w).
Pinkdragon - High NKC. Pred Daughter (after 4 mcs) TTC #2, super ov.
duggs1976 - TTC#1 4 mcs all 7-12 weeks. High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - IVF cycle #1 ?pred, intrallipids, metformin, clexane, cylogest
Havingkittens - TTC#1 4mcs between 6-8 weeks, 2 Downs. Upgraded from High to V High NKC -10 pred ? 3rd cycle SO
Abney (44), TTC#2, SO 2, 6 MC No pred (2 chromosone, 4 unexplained), 1 DS Pred Cycle 1 & fragmin, 4 MC on Pred (1 fragmin),
eurochick - TTC#1 High NKC, pred cycle 6, had 3 cycles of Super Ov, now on 2nd cycle of IUI No BFP in 20+ cycles of trying
Pebbles - TTC#1 High NKC, PCOS, super ov cycle 1 (post IVF - 1 chemical, 1 mc, 2nd chemical on treatment/IVF
Arianrhod - TTC#2 DD then 5 mcs 5-9 wks (2 on treatment), V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)

TTC
London - High NKC, April - mc on treatment.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine). April - mc on treatment.
Willitbe - TTC#4 DS, DD, 1 mc, DS2, followed by 11mcs, gen 6-8 weeks. NKC not tested, TTC #4 cycle 2 (after m/c 12) Fertility consultant
prescribed pred.
GreenOlives - TTC#2 DS followed by 2mcs, 1 ec, 1 chem. High NKC, decided to only take Pred from BFP
picolina - TTC#1 4 mcs, all around 6 weeks. V High NKC MC on treatment
Holldoll - TTC #2 High NKC - Pred, Cyclogest & aspirin. DS followed by 4 mcs, heart stopped around 5-6wk. Mc in March 2012 on treatment. Pred started at BFP.
Lemonsherbet - TTC#1 v high/high NK, Mthfr, thyroid issues, pred 1st trim & Intralipids 2nd on bfp
buster76 -V High NKC, Factor V Leiden.
BellyD - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, TTC#1 cycle 2, hydroxychloroquine
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)
Carebear1 - V high NKC

Current status?

Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2
Breezyweezy - V High NKC - TTC#1
AandRmum - High NKC
Cornflakes30 - V High NKC, underactive thyroid
Brownstag - V High NKC, 3 yo DS is a Pred Baby! TTC #2
Zoeella V.high NKC, Factor V Leiden. abandoned IVF, pos PCOS\

Gransol - Seven mcs - all losses between 6 & 7 weeks

Oh my goodness, completely forgot - many congratulations brownie and family, I'm so thrilled for you.

Thanks for your superb editing skills free

Thanks Sue and Ari for the pms with the thread links - I'd still be checking the old one otherwise as am idiot
Free your story really touched me, I don't think tbh any of us will move back into the carefree pregnancy mode, there's a part of me that, whenever someone on the street etc says what a lovely baby, feels the urge to say something about how hard a journey it was to have him. I usually resist! Though I do say something to midwives, I think it's really strange my history is not obvious to them (or maybe they just haven't read them).

Anyone else reading the vegetarian and pregnant thread? I know Iggi is too as she has posted as well. It's really annoying me. There are so many people saying 'I am a vegetarian and I've had no problems etc etc' which is great but there are two separate issues there! She has a healthy diet and am pretty sure it has nothing to do with the mcs. The fact is she has had 2 mcs in a row and that rings alarm bells for me, not the bloody diet. Ah well, hopefully her third/current pregnancy will be fine and she won't need to look into this stuff ever again.