Aaaah Autumn...BESH style. Join the MAD and may your loins be fruitful.

[Ariesgirl]

Aaaah Autumn...

Season of jizz and menkul WOOFLing,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing ovaries;
Conspiring with him how to SWI and bless
With baybees the hags that round the thatch eves drink gin run.

Join with us in making this MAD season very fruitful indeed.

Sorry for stupid technophobic posting. How about this?

and yes GaGa if I put in a high temp from tomorrow it gives me the cross to say I ovulated between Saturday and today. I am keeping my fingers crossed for a higher temp tomorrow, then will be WOOFLing until droid arrives I go menkul.

Bitey if you still have the EWCM, keep on a-shagging. Suspect you've not laid yet but you've got the little guys up tehre waiting so it's all good. you jsut need to add a bit of fresh to make sure there are some still around. The ovulation calc is bag of shire really and supposes everyone has same cycle/same Luteal phase etc. Better to see what YOUR body is doing.

Truff can't look at it at mo as looks like you are playing with your temps to see what they do

Truff you would never catch me discarding first temperature and then retaking on the other side of my tongue, practically giving myself a tongue piercing to make it go higher. Oh no, not me. That wasn't what I was doing at 6 am at all.

LadyGG there's no CM data cos I can't make sense of it.... Generally higher cervix = more of the stuff, but stretchy egg whitey stuff is determinedly non existent (I think I've seen evidence of it twice since I started looking, and one of those was on something silly like CD6 that bore no relation whatsoever to ov....). I despair of my body.

Haven't tried putting in imaginary future temps, that could be a good way to kill some time later on. But probably not now as I have a colleague turning up any minute!

What is the most fertile quality cm you have? Do you get the wet, watery stuff? Or just creamy? In TCOYF says you have to count whatever is your most fertile liquid as the one to go with Have you tried the Robitussin stuff (some type of cough med? Meant to thin your cm and make it more abundant and friendly for sperm to swim in.

You girls should come over to Charters Anon cos I think everyone else is bored shitless with all this charting geekery talk.

More SWI-ing LadeedahGeeGaGa? Strewth, well it's a tough job!

True 'tis all very tech on here. I'm just going to keep going on my FFJ and lots of sechs as seems the least obsessive thing to do for the next 3-6 months. I'm also going to let my hair down for a while and have some FUN, oh yes. Where would the BESHes recommend for a dirty and inexpensive romantic weekend away next month, preferably out of the UK as the last time we had a holiday here we got taken to court for non payment that we didn't owe them, cheeky beggars . All was well in the end but has left Mr T with bad memories of lovely cottage break by the sea :( So...where would you choose? Sunshine and scenery would be grand.

Thanks for further kindness BESHes. Is all very much appreciated. Pol Yep still doing needles. I think it may be doing something as TMI alert one of my ishoos is apparently blood stagnation and this month the droid is hanging around a lot longer and still very much....er ....bright red whereas before it's been quite different. A good old clear out perhaps? Too much of a coincidence? Still bloody painful though, she needs to work on that one.

matterhorndonkey A friend acksherly checked that I was 'having sex in the right position' months back. I was gobsmacked and not quick enough to say anything remotely witty back. She may however have the steam ejecting from my ears

Ahem, Sindyssnatch you are ELEVEN days late, have sore boobs and have not POAS. You have nerves of steel lady. Drucks or no drucks that is a long time....that's all I'm saying

I would take a look at Marrakech cinco. It's a short flight and not too expensive. What sort of budget do you have? We stayed here when we went and oh my word it was amazing www.dar-ayniwen.com/indexen.html

Be warned, site has music.

WOWEEE, I'm very that you have stayed there. Looks fantabulous. It's doing something funny to me just looking at the website....might be that music . Marrakech is a definite option as always wanted to go. Budget is less than that place though unfortunately. In fact we don't really have a budget as we're skint , let's just say it's our Christmas and birthdays for the next year. I will peruse t'interweb for other options though. Cheers my dear.

It is not the cheapest place, our long weekend there was our holiday for that year. Although, it ended up costing us less than some holidays in the UK have cost and was about a billion times more lovely.

There are much more budget friendly options in Marrakech and it is a cool place. Definitely investigate.

That place looks AMAZE Muse. I am also v .

Cinco maybe this month is like you say - a good old clearout. Is all good, but sorry it is so painful.

Cinco of course I didn't test last week with a cheapy at all, that would be utterly insane. And I'm not thinking of sneaking home from work early to test again at all, no really. Ahem. the Piss Stick ripped it's cardboardy sides laughing at me after I weed on it.

I know you said not UK but I stayed at a great place in Bude North Cornwall last year. Comfiest huge beds ever, jacuzzi double baths, nice views, pub within walking distance, close to beaches, Tintagel everything. Wooldown cottages I think? Not too spendy, very romantic and nice people too. Or what about Bath? You and man could hang out in the lovely Thermae spa and eat out at delicious places?

You could pack some of Gaga's nipple tassels too if she'll let you borrow them.

Sorry, am mental here; trying to catch up: BB have a kidney kick and a snog; Cinco so glad the needles are helping though to the pain; Muse am SICK with envy at that amazing place, what a wonderful thing to have done; pinches to all others.

In other news pliz to reassure me that there is no wrong way to shag for TTC?! . Had always assumed was ricockulous old wives' tale. The OM likes his wimminz on top you see. However REFUSE to believe this is reason for 10 babyfails!

Think Scorps won on top. Missionary/rear meant to be best but I reckon if you quickly wiggle onto your back afters (taking care not to spill any) and lie down for 20 mins should be fine?

Hmph. Thanks LGG. I do generally try for a lie-down, with pillow under arse etc. etc. William H Macy, do you remember the heady days when you honestly thought one semi-protected shag would be enough to diff you up good and proper?! Who knew you had to be nutritionist/acrobat/biologist/chemist/mathematician...

Sadly it would prob have been true. These eggs aren't as young as they used to be

I'm terribly jealous Muse. Envy is not attractive so I'll try and stop. We haven't had a proper holiday in years. Waaaaah. Must pop over t'Deli.

Remember HB you can get diffed standing up, upside down, outside, during a period, the first time you do it and everything. That's what Just 17 tells us.

, Rie. Even up the bum.

Why not just share a bath with Mr HB, that should do it

I didn't win on top; I bloody hate doing that position and TYF doesn't like it either. Was plain ole' missionary that happened to win that time for us I didn't do any crazy acrobatics after, either - we just cuddled for ages afterwards on our sides. I even remember moaning about how could I ever get pg when so much of the bloody gunk flooded out afterwards. Is all totally random and a head-fuck, sadly.

Am lurking and loving you all; feeling rough, so not posting anywhere much. Cinco, so sorry to hear bad news Keep on keeping on, my treasure - you're seeing the needler that helped me win, so let that be a BESHpiration for you. Over 4 months, I felt my health and fertility really change and improve and I know she can work the magic you need for you. I heart Amsterdam for breaks, but am biased (brother lives there). Can recommend a nice s-c apartment that's cheap and well-located, but has insane amount of stairs.

V (angry) to hear about that bloke getting decked by bastard teens. It weren't like that in my day I used to wade in and say something in the past whenever I saw young kids behaving badly but now I get scared. Dunno what answer is really

HB, I have long been prone to fits of hollow laughter over the way we were all brainwashed when younger into thinking that if you so much as SAW a flaccid penis then you'd be carrying triplets the next day. Opinions about female fertility seem to be either 'Abstain, you filthy young slag!' or 'Why've you left it too late, Grandma?', with nothing much inbetween.

I prescribe a holiday for Aries and shagging any way up for Heads. I do not like on top position either, due to belly phobia, so cannot comment on winning that way. But surely on top would be good as sperm would go shooting straight up and get a good head start?

cinco Scorps speaks troot, you will get that win.

Is funny, you'd think I of all people wouldd shy away from sessual positions that revealed fleshiness, but it simply never occurs to me . Still, nice to be unselfconscious once eight or nine times a month for twenty minutes a few hours .

I was in hysterics over a John Bishop stand-up routine a couple of days ago. He's been married for 16 years and was saying at first it's all moonlight & roses etc. etc. and they can do no wrong. And then after a few years...My God, even the breathing aggravates ...in and out and IN and OUT, all day.... . We're not at that stage yet thankfully, but don't even speak to me about the way he eats an apple...

Aries I agree with Dr Muse re. holibobs. Can you go away somewhere in the off-season? Me = queen of cheap breaks. Can recommend good holiday cottage site...

Read this

I must stop being such a horrible cow.

Oh dear. I feel much the same. Let us be horrible cows together, mooing contentedly in our little grassy field of envy.