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Racist abuse of Saka, Sancho and Rashford after penalty misses

361 replies

HmmmmmmInteresting · 12/07/2021 11:18

This is why I don't support England and was dreading them winning as I don't think the fans deserve it. They don't deserve those boys.

The boys are English when they score goals but monkeys and the N word when they don't.

Rashford runs a campaign to feed starving kids and gets nothing but racial and other types of abuse week in week out. Sterling regularly vilified in the press for buying his mum a house and his wife shopping at Primark 🙄. Both rise above it and are nothing but professional in their measured comments. And they have to be or it would just get worse.

The right wing press if this country feeds the jingoism, racism and xenophobia and this place is just a cesspool now.

The lip service paid to the situation: the statements 'condeming' the racism and the pathetic kneeing (which the English fans have charmingly taken to booing). A nation that has to tell it's fans not to racially abuse its team because they lost a football game is not one to be proud of.

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Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 16:25

Roussette
Not here to pot stir,

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 16:27

Roussette
I give you evidence that the majority of racist comments to the English players were from abroad and it doesn’t fit your narrative so leave,

Roussette · 15/07/2021 16:33

"Advocates of online identification, however, point to the ability of users to hide themselves digitally. “While social media platforms – and the law enforcement agencies they are increasingly working with – will have access to user IP addresses, the widespread availability of VPN software that masks a computer’s IP address means this is far from a silver bullet”,

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 16:41

Roussette
Depends what you want to believe, if you want them to be all clever U.K. racist hiding their IP address or are actually people from outside the U.K. making racist remarks to the players

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 15/07/2021 17:05

Portsmouth is overseas now?? Shock

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/portsmouth-fc-racist-group-chat-b1883837.html

The problem with the “argument” that’s it’s coming from overseas is that it doesn’t work on the people who actually experience racism. To their face, in this country.

The kids who beat up my son for being not-white were not punching from overseas. The teenagers and grown men who shout racial slurs at my husband aren’t doing it from overseas, they’re doing it from across the street, from on the same bus.

If you’ve never experienced it, fine. I don’t expect you to understand. But I do expect you to shut up and listen to people who have experienced it. The fact that you don’t do this speaks volumes about who you are and what you’re trying to do here.

Quaggars · 15/07/2021 17:06

@SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo

Portsmouth is overseas now?? Shock

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/portsmouth-fc-racist-group-chat-b1883837.html

The problem with the “argument” that’s it’s coming from overseas is that it doesn’t work on the people who actually experience racism. To their face, in this country.

The kids who beat up my son for being not-white were not punching from overseas. The teenagers and grown men who shout racial slurs at my husband aren’t doing it from overseas, they’re doing it from across the street, from on the same bus.

If you’ve never experienced it, fine. I don’t expect you to understand. But I do expect you to shut up and listen to people who have experienced it. The fact that you don’t do this speaks volumes about who you are and what you’re trying to do here.

Well said
HmmmmmmInteresting · 15/07/2021 17:14

But I do expect you to shut up and listen to people who have experienced it. The fact that you don’t do this speaks volumes about who you are and what you’re trying to do here.

Perfectly put.

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HmmmmmmInteresting · 15/07/2021 17:15

Let's see what happens to those Portsmouth players. The screenshots are circulating on twitter. Bet the TV news doesn't report it.

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TheWeeDonkey · 15/07/2021 17:34

I am mixed race and this is why I tend to stay away from BMN because there is always someone happy to dominate every thread regarding race to tell us that racism doesn't exist in the UK regardless of the experience of black and brown people who live here.

Granted, as a middle aged woman what I experience is nowhere near the aggression and intimidation I experienced as a girl, and the area I live in is probably majority mixed heritage but its still there.

I guess its like any kind of abuse, its easier to look away and ignore it than it is to face it and do something about it.

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 17:36

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo
I thought the debate was on the racist abuse the the English footballers

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 17:37

HmmmmmmInteresting
Might well be some that have been arrested

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 17:39

TheWeeDonkey
I’ve hot said it doesn’t exist in the UK, it exist worldwide as does others forms of abuse

TheWeeDonkey · 15/07/2021 17:41

Anyway I guess I'm kind of rambling here. I do find it useful when we have people on the thread giving actual examples of the type of ignorance being discussed. Its always helpful for the lurkers.

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 15/07/2021 17:52

@Sirius99

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo I thought the debate was on the racist abuse the the English footballers
My link was. Your point is?
EchoNan · 15/07/2021 18:05

@TheWeeDonkey

I am mixed race and this is why I tend to stay away from BMN because there is always someone happy to dominate every thread regarding race to tell us that racism doesn't exist in the UK regardless of the experience of black and brown people who live here.

Granted, as a middle aged woman what I experience is nowhere near the aggression and intimidation I experienced as a girl, and the area I live in is probably majority mixed heritage but its still there.

I guess its like any kind of abuse, its easier to look away and ignore it than it is to face it and do something about it.

I had to have a break from here at one point. Totally get where you are coming from. Older person here also. I've been going to matches since before Howard Gayle played for Liverpool.
(What a player! What a Community minded man!)

It gets so boring having some half arsed plopper tag team decide to whitesplain racism to the rest of us. Yawn, yawn, yawn.

I just don't understand the mind set of these people, perhaps they are worried about their shares plummeting in:
"The Big Pink Skin Tone Plasters Company. "?

They are certainly heavily invested in something. Wink

EchoNan · 15/07/2021 18:21

thefsa.org.uk/news/heres-how-you-can-report-racist-abuse

I'm a member of the Football Supporters Association.

They don't seem to support the views of those few on this thread, who are trying to minimise racism in football.

Sirius99 · 15/07/2021 20:03

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Starseeking · 15/07/2021 20:05

@Sirius99

It’s just a shame people dwell on the few racist comments to the players rather than comment on the thousands of good comments on how well the team played this tournament, it’s almost how people want to find racism

"People want to find racism"

🤣🤣🤣

Roussette · 15/07/2021 20:27

Hilarious... I mean come on... this is just a GF trying to get the rise out of posters on here.

A few... hahahaha.... Twitter's statement after just 24 hours.

In the past 24 hours, through a combination of machine learning based automation and human review, we have swiftly removed over 1,000 Tweets and permanently suspended a number of accounts for violating our rules - the vast majority of which we detected ourselves proactively using technology

Nice try though!

RedMarauder · 15/07/2021 20:49

There are forums where people deliberately set out to troll on MN.

Unfortunately it seems MN gets a lot of them when it comes to racism.

Btw have we had our monthly skin colour plasters thread yet?

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 15/07/2021 20:59

There are forums where people deliberately set out to troll on MN

I can well believe this to be true. They’re just not very good at either trolling or full stops. Grin

EchoNan · 15/07/2021 21:08

@SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo

There are forums where people deliberately set out to troll on MN

I can well believe this to be true. They’re just not very good at either trolling or full stops. Grin

My spelling and punctuation is often very poor. I could pass as one of them online.

Do you think they'll let me join?

Sort of BlacKkKlansman undercover type thing?

EchoNan · 15/07/2021 21:11

In support of my application, I could demonstrate a rather superficial knowledge of Manchester being "very diverse" as per pp.

EchoNan · 15/07/2021 21:20

Thank you, mods, re deletions upthread.

user1471453601 · 15/07/2021 21:32

@EchoNan, I loved your post.

I'm not a member of the organisation you refer to, but I can not believe some on here are trying to minimise the racism that exists in football ( a game I love) and society in general.

I guess there are none so blind as those that will not see.