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it's not a tiny minority is it

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noddyington · 11/11/2026 15:09

I do not know any women who have not had something bad or intimidating happen to them in their lifetime. Whether that be cat calling, followed, talked down to, pushed out of spaces, pushed over for promotion, assaulted, stalked, raped or murdered.

I do not know any women who have not changed their behaviour to try and keep themselves safe. It might be walking with keys between their fingers, getting a taxi when they'd rather walk, covering their drink when they are at a bar, not responding when a guy intimidates/heckles at them because it's safer, run or jog in groups, don't wear headphones walking late a night.........

AIBU to say that it's not a tiny minority of men is it?

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 17:38

So coming on a thread where women discuss trauma and calling women 'batshit' is really unhelpful.

Maybe some opinions are forceful, maybe you even think they are extreme or a bit daft. They are just words typed on a screen. Women aren't the ones doing all the bashing and raping.

boredandgrand · Yesterday 18:54

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 17:36

You are male, aren't you?

No, female and have been all my life.

boredandgrand · Yesterday 18:58

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 17:38

So coming on a thread where women discuss trauma and calling women 'batshit' is really unhelpful.

Maybe some opinions are forceful, maybe you even think they are extreme or a bit daft. They are just words typed on a screen. Women aren't the ones doing all the bashing and raping.

Did you read the posts I was referring to? They were batshit and not helping to address the situation.

Soontoomuch · Yesterday 19:07

Older lady here: I have been assaulted on lots of occasions, sexually and other type of physical. It happened a lot more to me in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Men have not really changed, it is that we now perceive it for what it is. Women now call it out now as bullying/sexual assault. And they are correct to report it, we accepted it as our lot in life and were wrong.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:12

G5000 · 12/11/2026 06:05

boys suffering an identity crisis via single mothers. Interesting. So who do we blame - 'single mothers', the parent who stayed. You didn't choose to write that boys are suffering due to 'absent fathers' who decided not to participate in parenting.

So who do we blame?

Maybe it'd be better if we stopped focusing on blame and actually looked at solutions.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:22

I'll never understand why so many women are so desperate to become victims. I'm reading all these comments about how 'men get angry when we talk about xyz' and honestly it mostly sounds like delusions of importance.

Most men couldn't give a shit. They're just normal people going about their lives. I think it's far more likely that men just hate being fempecked. Self righteous feminists and woke people are annoying as fuck tbh and mostly only interested in lecturing and checking the privilege of others. If you dare utter the phrase 'white feminism' you'll often see their true colours and how they'll rarely practice what they preach.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 20:28

boredandgrand · Yesterday 18:58

Did you read the posts I was referring to? They were batshit and not helping to address the situation.

I don't know which ones you were referring to, but my point was sometimes women are just venting.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:31

Hindsight101 · 12/11/2026 07:40

So if it's not hate, what would you call it then?
Genuine question.
It sounds like a complete dismissal of a women's autonomy, choice, thoughts, feelings. To see her as an object in fact. A thing.
The man you describe takes what he wants.
But that's a human being he is taking from, so it is at the very least, genuine dehumanisation.
So, not hate as such but the ability to put her humanity to the side for the sake of his desires. And to do that with no remorse?
That's closer to evil.

What would you call it?

Misanthropy? Sociopathology?

Most of these men probably don't treat their fellow men any better. They just have the survival instinct to know when to wind their necks in - usually when speaking to a bloke that's likely to kick their arse.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:43

InfoSecInTheCity · 12/11/2026 11:22

This doesn’t account for the many countries and cultures where VAWG is rife but single motherhood rates are low, divorce is low, men are held as the head of the household and revered above women. It doesn’t account for the fact that VaWG has been rife across the world since the beginning of recorded history. It was less than 100years ago that women were allowed to initiate divorce on the basis of cruelty, before that it was just the man’s right.

Well, these tend to be the cultures that drive the widespread opposition to immigration. People on here are usually very scathing about men that oppose mass immigration of young males from these countries.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:58

G5000 · 12/11/2026 11:54

Imagine a man using the term "woman spreading"

Oh I don't need to imagine.Nagging, hysterical, bitchy, bridezilla, Karen, shrill, resting bitch face, ballbuster, cat lady and many many more are very much used and also very much gendered.

Bridezillla is used almost exclusively by women!

Also, it's common to refer to somebody as 'a right penis' or 'a sausage'. Or a knob/knobhead/dick/dickhead/cock/wanker/tosser/tosspot/prick/wankstain/etc.

The vast majority of insults are related to male features. Aside from calling somebody 'a cunt' which is generally frowned upon much more than the above. Or maybe 'a tit' which is often used humourously/affectionately.

I don't think it's only women that suffer this. It's also much more acceptable to say "I'd chop his balls off if he did that" than it is for a bloke to say "I'd chop her tits off'.

TheBers · Yesterday 21:28

seahorsessky · 11/11/2026 15:34

That's like the comments about people from certain religions or about immigrants; no one is denying some people do things, but blame the individuals, not groups. Yes, some women (definitely not all!) have been hurt by men, but many have been hurt by women too, but that isn't taken as seriously by many. Victims of women can be scared to report it.
Just like when someone is attacked by a dog, don't blame all dog ownerss-and don't blame all men-or all women!-because some people assault you. Having a go at the whole group is only going to upset decent men, and the women who love them.

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The negativity around religion and immigration usually has male behaviour at the root of it. Even female based animosity like “women in burka’s” has come about because men came up with modesty.
Fatal dog attacks are predominantly breeds owned by men.

Of course there are lovely strong, kind good men. Their values aren’t the overriding ones within masculinity currently.

Hindsight101 · Today 03:11

MaIeficent · Yesterday 20:31

What would you call it?

Misanthropy? Sociopathology?

Most of these men probably don't treat their fellow men any better. They just have the survival instinct to know when to wind their necks in - usually when speaking to a bloke that's likely to kick their arse.

I don't know what to call it. It's foreign to me. I could barely stand to get cross at my kids, my empathy for others is huge. I don't know what it must be like to lack that.

Wallywobbles · Today 03:17

I can’t remember the exact statistics but something like 7/10 men would commit SA if they knew there would be no consequences.
The biggest problem (for me) is the ones that say I wouldn’t do it therefore it must be bollocks. They don’t want to rock the boat with their dodgy mates either or call out unpleasant/ unnecessary bollocks and justify it with “it’s a joke”.

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