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it's not a tiny minority is it

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noddyington · 11/11/2026 15:09

I do not know any women who have not had something bad or intimidating happen to them in their lifetime. Whether that be cat calling, followed, talked down to, pushed out of spaces, pushed over for promotion, assaulted, stalked, raped or murdered.

I do not know any women who have not changed their behaviour to try and keep themselves safe. It might be walking with keys between their fingers, getting a taxi when they'd rather walk, covering their drink when they are at a bar, not responding when a guy intimidates/heckles at them because it's safer, run or jog in groups, don't wear headphones walking late a night.........

AIBU to say that it's not a tiny minority of men is it?

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Lilithsdaughter · 11/11/2026 22:31

CurlyhairedAssassin · 11/11/2026 17:44

But it's not a majority of men. It's the majority of men that YOU have had relationships with, from your formative years. Unfortunately your upbringing has probably had a detrimental impact on what standards of behaviour you thought normal in a man and therefore has no doubt affected your choice of partner and caused you to have skewed boundaries (this doesn't always happen consciously of course).

The fact that you have never had a good male role model in your life is not the same as "good male role models don't exist".

Our systems are patriarchal and by definition- oppressive.
men benefit from our formal and informal subjugation

FurierTransform · 11/11/2026 22:31

It is a minority. I really don't think people want to go down this path of blaming everyone for the actions of a few. When we do that, history shows us it ends terribly.

AnneShirleyBlythe · 11/11/2026 22:32

Hiredgun · 11/11/2026 16:46

This is a very powerful image but it’s technically not correct. Yes, men no doubt commit the vast majority of sex crimes but there’s still a percentage of women who do too. So, it’s mostly but, not always men. Not quite as catchy a slogan however.

FFS That’s some whataboutery! If you were to ask ChatGPT for a list of male sex offenders the list would be endless.

boredandgrand · 11/11/2026 22:33

Eastie77Returns · 11/11/2026 22:01

You think all of the men who have committed violent crimes show up in “the data”?

You do realise that the vast, vast majority of crimes such as rape never make it to court? There are thousands of men walking around scott free who have committed all manner of crimes against women and girls.

The data I'm referring to includes research as well as court stats. And yes, I'm well aware of the points you make.

Laurmolonlabe · 11/11/2026 22:43

noddyington · 11/11/2026 15:21

Why though? Why do men hate women so much.

Because we are better than men and they know it in their heart of hearts- much easier to oppress and denigrate than to accept you are inherently inferior.

Datgal · 11/11/2026 22:43

I've been thinking about this recently. I think you have a point. Me and my friends have all been sexually assaulted. I was raped whilst really drunk years ago by my brother's friend. I was at home and he must have let himself in. I blamed myself because I was so drunk. Never imagined to ring the police as I thought I'd get told it was my fault-the shame of it all. Men like this sometimes go after vulnerable people as they can't fight back or less likely to do anything. A close family member got battered and nearly drowned by a partner. I'm not a man hater, but by Christ, as women, we do have to be careful. Whereas men less so I should imagine.

Spiderx · 11/11/2026 22:46

Coulditbesam · 11/11/2026 15:29

I don’t think they do.

As a man ,I certainly don't but even though I grew up with 3 brothers and 'just' one sister the females in our family were all powerful ' can do' people. Our fathers sister for example ran her own chimney sweeping business, taking the tools of her trade with her via a motorbike and sidecar.

Hiredgun · 11/11/2026 22:51

AnneShirleyBlythe · 11/11/2026 22:32

FFS That’s some whataboutery! If you were to ask ChatGPT for a list of male sex offenders the list would be endless.

You’re quite correct but to say it’s ‘always men’ is simply not true and dismissive of the victims of female perpetrators.

Winklepickers · 11/11/2026 22:55

seahorsessky · 11/11/2026 15:34

That's like the comments about people from certain religions or about immigrants; no one is denying some people do things, but blame the individuals, not groups. Yes, some women (definitely not all!) have been hurt by men, but many have been hurt by women too, but that isn't taken as seriously by many. Victims of women can be scared to report it.
Just like when someone is attacked by a dog, don't blame all dog ownerss-and don't blame all men-or all women!-because some people assault you. Having a go at the whole group is only going to upset decent men, and the women who love them.

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The statistics and numerous studies prove that violence is overwhelmingly a male problem.

95% of all violent crime is carried out by men. So the inference that women are as bad as men is just untrue.

As for blaming groups, I’m afraid men is one group where you can blame them. Dog owners only have the fact they have a dog in common. By contrast, men share biology, Identity and social conditioning that means there are many reasons why they can have many other shared behavioural traits.

BoredZelda · 11/11/2026 22:57

seahorsessky · 11/11/2026 15:34

That's like the comments about people from certain religions or about immigrants; no one is denying some people do things, but blame the individuals, not groups. Yes, some women (definitely not all!) have been hurt by men, but many have been hurt by women too, but that isn't taken as seriously by many. Victims of women can be scared to report it.
Just like when someone is attacked by a dog, don't blame all dog ownerss-and don't blame all men-or all women!-because some people assault you. Having a go at the whole group is only going to upset decent men, and the women who love them.

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Show me somewhere, anywhere, you have raised the issue of female violence against men, when it hasn’t been on the back of a question about male violence against women. For something that is so important, and apparently never talked about, it is raised with relentless monotony whenever anyone talks about women being abused.

Spiderx · 11/11/2026 23:04

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Eugenics is alive and well in 2026 !

FFSItsTooHot · 11/11/2026 23:07

I used to think it was a tiny minority of men who were like this,but over the last 5 years or so,I have realised that it is actually a tiny minority who are NOT like this. Even men who proclaim themselves to be 'feminists' usually slip up somewhere along the line.

Spiderx · 11/11/2026 23:09

Laurmolonlabe · 11/11/2026 22:43

Because we are better than men and they know it in their heart of hearts- much easier to oppress and denigrate than to accept you are inherently inferior.

Women are not 'better' than men and vice versa . We all have our strengths and weaknesses and should celebrate our differences. Mums and dads both need to make sure our kids don't grow up with sexist views

Spiderx · 11/11/2026 23:13

Winklepickers · 11/11/2026 22:55

The statistics and numerous studies prove that violence is overwhelmingly a male problem.

95% of all violent crime is carried out by men. So the inference that women are as bad as men is just untrue.

As for blaming groups, I’m afraid men is one group where you can blame them. Dog owners only have the fact they have a dog in common. By contrast, men share biology, Identity and social conditioning that means there are many reasons why they can have many other shared behavioural traits.

Just watch the stats there...you may be right in that 95% of violence is carried out by males but did you realise the majoity of that violence is directed towards other males ?

DaisytheElephant · 11/11/2026 23:19

Eastie77Returns · 11/11/2026 20:03

Not all men but most.

I honestly think if you put 100 men in a position where they could sexually assault a woman and they had a cast iron guarantee they would get away with it, the majority would.

Sounds awful and I have a son, brothers, lovely male friends etc but I do think the majority of men are basically awful.

I’ve got a male friend, someone I’ve known since school, so over 40 years. He’s someone I’d class as a ‘good’ man, good father to his kids, good husband to his wife, good friend to his friends. I’ve spent time alone with him and never felt uncomfortable or threatened. I’ve never heard any other women we both know complain about him.

But I’ve heard him say a few inappropriate things including him drunkenly ‘joking’ at a party when he was in his 30s about how he’d start raping women if the end of the world was coming ‘because there would be no consequences.’

Women don’t make jokes like that. Women don’t think that way. I was surprised at the time that he said it, but not so much now. The older I get, the more I recognise inappropriate comments and behaviour from men that I would have brushed off when I was younger because they’re a ‘good guy’.

StarDolphins · 11/11/2026 23:27

MST of my bf’s have been lovely,respectful and really good to me. My last ex, not so much. Scratch under the surface and he had very complex issues - narcissist mainly but also very sexist and this was kept under wraps and came out v v gradually over many years.

I agree op, nice men are v much the minority and with a big margin too.

Cel77 · 11/11/2026 23:28

Coulditbesam · 11/11/2026 15:45

Not in my world.

The world is a much, much bigger world than your small version.

moto748e · 11/11/2026 23:48

Women are not 'better' than men and vice versa .

I use to think that, it seemed the right thing to say. Nowadays, I'm not so sure. I think the social restraints that have previously operated on men, Christianity (in the UK), social convention, etc, have been so eroded in the modern era of 'anything goes'. And it's women who feel the brunt of that.

MaIeficent · 12/11/2026 00:48

I think testosterone likely plays a part in the sexual assault area. Possibly also the dynamic whereby men are expected to be the pursuers - which may even be innate as the same is observable in many animals.

With general violence I think it's more a human trait and is often affected by power dynamics. We lose to men as we're obviously weaker but when you look at children (who are obv weaker than women) it's usually females committing the majority of abuse and the majority of victims are male.

It's also interesting that despite men causing more death and serious injury, women actually perpetrate more DV. There are many studies showing this but the most comprehensive is the 'Partner Abuse State of Knowledge' which is the biggest DV metastudy to date. It was undertaken by over 100 researchers from 20 universities in partnership with DV organisations/experts and it analysed over 10,000 previous studies, including several thousand peer reviewed studies. They repeated the study after 15 years to include the latest data and found the same result.

SmokeyRidge · 12/11/2026 02:08

Spiderx · 11/11/2026 23:09

Women are not 'better' than men and vice versa . We all have our strengths and weaknesses and should celebrate our differences. Mums and dads both need to make sure our kids don't grow up with sexist views

This 100%. The breakdown of society and the family unit has contributed to boys suffering an identity crisis via single mothers who, as hard as they try, can never be fathers. These boys then look to strangers who manipulate and use their lack of family support against them. Time and time again it is shown that boys who do not have their fathers in their lives grow up dysfunctional, violent etc and women without fathers gravitate towards bad men. Until we are honest about this, nothing will change and I believe that nothing will change. We're all too busy showing boys the disdain, we as women, have for the men they'll grow up to be and convict them before they've even had a chance to do anything wrong. I hate this site for the toxicity it spews about men and pits them all equally as predators etc. I'm glad the men I know are strong, defend women and don't come to this site because they have better things to do like work etc. I hope to not have as much free time, shortly. This site has changed how I view other women and not in a good way. I know it's not real life, though, so I intend to touch grass and find my way back to sanity.

askmenow · 12/11/2026 02:28

noddyington · 11/11/2026 15:21

Why though? Why do men hate women so much.

Because as time evolves and women gain more agency, education and power, men stand to lose out, become lesser than and have to adapt and accommodate.
Who in their right minds would cede power willingly?

Meadowfinch · 12/11/2026 02:32

Why though? Why do men hate women so much?

Because this generation was raised to think boys are automatically better than girls. Better at sport, at maths, in their careers, financially, academically, better at driving. But recently that hasn't been so. Women today get better qualifications, take fewer risks, are generally more careful with money, have fewer car accidents......

I'm single, in my early 60s, a single mum, and retired recently after a middling successful career. I've been stunned at the number of men, ex-colleagues and two ex-boyfriends who have messaged me on LinkedIn with snarky comments about being able to afford to retire. Rather than just being pleased for me, or minding their own business, they need to express their resentment.

Female contacts, without exception, have wished me well.

askmenow · 12/11/2026 02:39

You know I often used to wonder, why in hot eastern climes, the women are always dressed head to foot in black garbs which attract/ absorb the heat of the sun whilst the men wear reflective, cooling white.

Another form of punishment.

G5000 · 12/11/2026 06:05

boys suffering an identity crisis via single mothers. Interesting. So who do we blame - 'single mothers', the parent who stayed. You didn't choose to write that boys are suffering due to 'absent fathers' who decided not to participate in parenting.

Hindsight101 · 12/11/2026 06:16

seahorsessky · 11/11/2026 15:34

That's like the comments about people from certain religions or about immigrants; no one is denying some people do things, but blame the individuals, not groups. Yes, some women (definitely not all!) have been hurt by men, but many have been hurt by women too, but that isn't taken as seriously by many. Victims of women can be scared to report it.
Just like when someone is attacked by a dog, don't blame all dog ownerss-and don't blame all men-or all women!-because some people assault you. Having a go at the whole group is only going to upset decent men, and the women who love them.

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There is an undeniable pattern though, compared to your false equivalence.
And if women noticing that pattern upsets men, they could fix that by campaigning for womens safety and equality, but they don't. They just get upset when we talk about it.
It disrupts their comfort levels.
It "upsets" them that we notice and maybe mention that 1 in 4 girls (and 1 in 5 or 6 boys I think) are sexually assaulted before they reach adulthood. That 98% of sexual crimes (reported and convicted) are perpetrated by men. That on average women earn less, retire with less, do the majority of care work, and are under-represented in decision making roles.
Poor men, getting upset so often.