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AIBU to think there is mutual attraction with a married friend?

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 14:33

Posting to see if anyone else has been in the same position, for context we are both married and in late 40’s with adult/older teen dc.

We have known each other through our children being friends for over 6;years now and our lives overlap a fair bit naturally, although less so now the kids are older.

We used to meet up as friends for drinks or walks regularly a few years ago a few times a week when our kids were doing training for their sport, sometimes in a group, sometimes 1-1 but purely platonically.

There has never been anything physical or anything inappropriate like flirting. About 4 years ago I started sensing a mutual attraction/charged atmosphere when we met up 1-1 although nothing was ever communicated or discussed.

After this I backed off from 1-1 meetings and kept it mainly group settings and everything settled down. Before this, we talked a lot about our upbringings, uni, careers etc and actually had a huge amount in common and just seemed very comfortable in each others company, like we’d known each other for years and I just found him enjoyable company. We did have slightly deeper chats sometimes about childhood stuff which I stopped when I backed off.

i would be lying if I said I didn’t find him attractive physically, but the personality compatibility was the main pull and he became one of my closest friends. When I backed off I did miss him, but that feeling settled down.

Fast forward a couple of years and our paths have crossed again over the summer. A few times instigated by him, a few coincidentally. It is mainly through the shared sport but also as my husband is friends with him, so impossible to avoid. We have met up this time mainly in family groups (not 1-1) about 5-6 times. He seems keen to meet up and possibly a bit lonely.

The chemistry is back with a vengeance, I have no idea if it’s mutual or all in my head, but we keep catching each other’s eyes and it makes me feel weird. He is very chatty and smiley to me but nothing inappropriate. My feelings are mostly linked to his body language and eye contact, but also the way the conversation steers towards little things we have talked about in the past, which I’m amazed he’s remembered.

it is occupying a lot of my time, and driving me a bit crazy trying to make sense of if there is mutual attraction or if I am imagining the whole thing. I have no idea what to do about it, obviously I can’t just ask him and I can’t step back any more!

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Lugol · Yesterday 20:59

I mean if you want to totally fuck up your life OP then crack on.

SisterMidnight77 · Yesterday 21:00

Watermelon44 · Yesterday 19:16

I would say ok but not amazing. Dh always tired, not keen on going out or socialising, doesn’t like spending money….a bit old before time probably. Doesn’t really listen to me or like conversations, tends to get up and walk off in the middle of one or just yawns. Quite rude sometimes. When I try to bring up these things calmly and respectfully, eg maybe go and see gp about chronic tiredness and snoring (probably sleep apnoea) does not care or listen.

I think this is the key to it isn’t it. If your marriage isn’t great and your husband seems unbothered then your head turns more easily. Personally, I’d had said more about this at the beginning of the thread to give more context. But your husband seems to be playing a dangerous game.

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 21:09

Strongly suggest you drop it and take up different interests.

mondrianblue · Yesterday 21:20

ThatCyanCat · Yesterday 19:38

And there we have it. The problems in the marriage that are causing you to look to this guy as some kind of fantasy escape and solution. But you've no idea what he's like. In real life, he might snore just as loudly and be every bit as boring and slumpy as your husband is being right now.

I do not have the solution for your marriage issues but I think some wise posters can suggest stuff. But I do know that starting an affair will only make it worse. If you can't work through the issues, you can free yourself, but this is not the answer. The road to hell feel like heaven and it will indeed be a road to hell.

It’s not necessarily a big problem in the marriage that’s causing this though. The OP has been with her DH for 25 years - the snoring and grumpy middle aged man thing is pretty common, let’s be honest!

When I was in a similar situation to the OP I don’t think it was rooted in terrible relationship dissatisfaction. I wasn’t unhappy, but of course the thrill of a new attraction feels very different to day to day life with your partner of decades. In my own experience, it absolutely blindsided me - and it did feel like it was all coming from me, if that makes sense? Not the fault of my marriage or my DH (who never knew anything about it, thank god!)

The point is, it will pass.

IsThistheMiddleofNowhere · Yesterday 21:22

You're married, he's married so you don"t go there. End of.

LasagneGoblin · Yesterday 21:24

We're taught menopause / perimenopause = lack of sex drive but it can do quite the opposite and make you irrationally horny. Coupled with a DH who's turning into an old man and is a bit of an arse, can't really blame you for having a few spicy day dreams about a man who you find attractive, you have a lot in common with and who seems to genuinely want to spend time with you.

For god's sake don't ask the dude if he feels the same though, I get that your hormones are making you feel like the protagonist in a Judy Bloom novel but you're 40 odd so you're not. Stop it.

Positivepositron · Yesterday 21:25

mondrianblue · Yesterday 21:20

It’s not necessarily a big problem in the marriage that’s causing this though. The OP has been with her DH for 25 years - the snoring and grumpy middle aged man thing is pretty common, let’s be honest!

When I was in a similar situation to the OP I don’t think it was rooted in terrible relationship dissatisfaction. I wasn’t unhappy, but of course the thrill of a new attraction feels very different to day to day life with your partner of decades. In my own experience, it absolutely blindsided me - and it did feel like it was all coming from me, if that makes sense? Not the fault of my marriage or my DH (who never knew anything about it, thank god!)

The point is, it will pass.

I don't think it sounded like boredom from the mundane. To me it sounded like her husband is thoughtless and mean spirited and doesn't treat her well.

BruFord · Yesterday 21:44

Shloopie · Yesterday 19:34

Have you recorded his snoring and played it back to him?

I'd be telling him to sleep on the couch, or I'd be decamping to the spare room. Could not tolerate sleeping next to a snoring bastard who treated it all as a joke.

That's a good idea @Shloopie, it's easy to dismiss snoring as minor when you haven't heard it yourself. It's horrible for partners.

Watermelon44 · Yesterday 21:44

Shloopie · Yesterday 19:34

Have you recorded his snoring and played it back to him?

I'd be telling him to sleep on the couch, or I'd be decamping to the spare room. Could not tolerate sleeping next to a snoring bastard who treated it all as a joke.

Yes and made him download an app. He won’t use the app now because he won’t pay for it. He won’t go downstairs and we have no spare room.

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 21:46

maxslice · Yesterday 19:32

You can go and still not engage much with him without other people noticing. You are looking for excuses.

I have stepped right back and only see him in groups, I don’t instigate chats 1-1, I stay with others. He talks to me specifically in a group and we have accidentally had locked eyes

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 21:49

SoupSoup · Yesterday 19:35

But what good would that do, unless you’re planning an affair?

If you aren’t, and you say you’re not, it’s irrelevant whether he’s secretly besotted with you or thinks of you as ‘Brian’s wife who s a bit full on and keeps staring at me’.

This is where my head goes when I worry about coming across like this accidentally

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Mulledjuice · Yesterday 21:51

Watermelon44 · Yesterday 17:38

Yes this I agree with which is why I would probably not act on it. Mainly i just want to know if he is, or if i have manufactured it in my head

why? because you want the flattery of knowing someone elss fancies you? because you want the frisson of the forbidden?

ask yourself how else you could deliver some excitement into your life without cheating

Watermelon44 · Yesterday 21:57

LasagneGoblin · Yesterday 21:24

We're taught menopause / perimenopause = lack of sex drive but it can do quite the opposite and make you irrationally horny. Coupled with a DH who's turning into an old man and is a bit of an arse, can't really blame you for having a few spicy day dreams about a man who you find attractive, you have a lot in common with and who seems to genuinely want to spend time with you.

For god's sake don't ask the dude if he feels the same though, I get that your hormones are making you feel like the protagonist in a Judy Bloom novel but you're 40 odd so you're not. Stop it.

😂

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 21:58

Mulledjuice · Yesterday 21:51

why? because you want the flattery of knowing someone elss fancies you? because you want the frisson of the forbidden?

ask yourself how else you could deliver some excitement into your life without cheating

Most likely yes

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 22:01

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 21:09

Strongly suggest you drop it and take up different interests.

Actually I have a few interests and other (female) friends so I am not sat pining for him.

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 22:04

Pedallleur · Yesterday 20:49

What happens if this other person turns out to be a snorer/farter/leaves the toilet dirty/watches porn (other terrible habits available). Worth blowing up the marriage for? What happens if there is an affair then OP gets dumped? Only one way to find out I suppose but I think most of us would advise against it.

Yes good advice thanks

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 22:12

Newusernameforthiss · Yesterday 19:29

Jesus Christ, don't do this

To be fair my dh knows we have had a close friendship over the years, when I have met him over the past years I have always been open about seeing him and what we’ve talked about.

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Watermelon44 · Yesterday 22:20

CollieBorders · Yesterday 20:51

Are you at all close to his wife? If you are, then you know how wrong all this is. If you’re not, then maybe you should be to help you realise your priorities.
To be honest, most of us have been there - when someone seems to like you, and you feel flattered and see them in different way and then it builds and builds with little looks and moments and excitement and thoughts in your head. It’s human nature to be distracted by that! Especially when you’ve been in a long-term relationship and that excitement isn’t there anymore. Part of the excitement is not knowing 100% what the other person thinks.
Yeah you could acknowledge it with him, but really there’s no need as I think it’s obvious something is there between you at the moment.
Who knows, maybe you and him are meant to be, but do keep in mind that you both probably felt like that with your current partners at one point… and something new like this will always seem more exciting, so it’s not really fair – and not actually realistic to think that this excitement would last with this guy. As others have said, the fallout from it all would be too massive.

Edited

No, I’ve met her a few times but she doesn’t ever come to any of the social gatherings and if she drives the kids she sits in the car.

I obviously know his kids well which is what would stop me pursuing anything with him beyond friendship.

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Dreamingofsunnydays · Yesterday 22:34

I think that the word for this situation is limerence.
To get rid of limerence, you must break the cycle of obsessive thoughts by cutting off contact, stopping daydreams, and shifting your focus back to yourself. Limerence is an addiction to a fantasy and to the uncertainty of a person's affection, not real love

LittleMonks11 · Yesterday 22:51

He sounds like a prick. Giving his mate’s wife the glad eye. Doesn’t bring his wife out for social evenings with other couples. Doesn’t bode well. Any of this.

MxCactus · Yesterday 22:57

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 14:58

It's normal to be attracted to other people. You think that stops when you get into a relationship? We all experience it and we all just accept it for what it is.

If you and your partner are in a monogomous relationship then you are both saying you are not going to act of those attractions to other people. That's all.

This is very sensible advice to the OP.

I'm married, I've fancied other men - and I've had married men tell me they fancy me in the past (though I've always shut it down).

Part of being married is that you shut down these things, even if you really like someone, because you love your partner more.

So I don't think it really matters whether he feels the same way or not OP. You need to start avoiding him again.

Laura95167 · Yesterday 23:11

You write this like you need to avoid him because of his feelings but if ive read this right youre family friends with shared interests and hes caught your eye and been smiley?

And from that YOU have a feeling.

He hasnt flirted, said anything, done anything... and you dont want to have an affair with him so why does it matter if he feels a spark or not?

Because i promise you if he revealed a spark you wouldnt let this go. Its already such a non thing you could let it go but youre analysing his body language and pulling away and then seeing him and in your head its all intense. And he may just not have noticed. Which should be good but you wont see it that way. Or he might like you and then youre playing with fire.

You need to let this fantasy go

Thesafetygeneral · Yesterday 23:15

Tread very carefully. If you speak to this other man about your feelings and you are right, this could end up as a full blown affair.
I too experienced something similar, confessed to the person and it ultimately ended my marriage and the mutual friendships we held between us. It was a mess. Be very careful

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 23:22

You're bored in your marriage, you're hitting perimenopause so hormones are rollicking, and you're attracted to this guy.

Thinking about him so much just reinforces those neural pathways you've set up. You saying you want to know if he's attracted to you is a way of rationalizing pursuing this. You need to break this habit, not take it further.

Don't say anything. Stop ruminating about your attraction. Grey rock him, avoid seeing him. If he sets up situations, don't go. Find other things to do and people to see.

Your husband should be seen by a GP and assessed for sleep apnea. Tell him it's time to get a big life insurance policy because you want to be a rich widow since he won't take care of his health. 😛

YourAmberExpert · Yesterday 23:28

AdeleRochester · Yesterday 15:02

No

Either he doesn’t feel the same way and you will be humiliated, and he’ll tell his wife and all the women in the group will despise you.

Or

He feels the same way and you have already betrayed your husband and are on the road to wrecking your children’s lives.

This