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Mil stepping on my toes in small ways

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Itsablondebobkindaday · Yesterday 18:06

I would really love some opinions here. I’m happy to be told I’m being unreasonable because I suspect I am being a little touchy and this is very much sweating the small stuff. There’s nothing big where I feel like I’d be justified in saying anything. It’s a lot of little things but it’s really getting me down. So it’s a mil one. Me and dp have a four month old. She’s dp’s only child and the only grandchild for his mother. Mil obviously dotes on dd but it is becoming overbearing and little things are adding up and making me quite annoyed. She’s very opinionated and believes her opinions are right. Truthfully I find her quite disrespectful of anyone else’s feelings or opinions.

She’s started asking to have dd for the day on her own. She has her alone for a good 9/10 hours. I was far from ready for this but dp clearly didn’t want to upset her so I felt like I had to agree. I’ve realised after seeing some pictures from the first time that she’s got a full set of clothes for her that she’s obviously keeping at hers and changing her into as soon as she gets to hers. The lovely outfits I put her in come back barely worn in the changing bag along with all the spares I’ve packed. I can’t help but feel like she’s been seen as a little doll to play dress up with.

My next niggle was regarding car seats. She lives not far off an hour away and it’s mostly motorway driving. Therefore I was extremely selective about what car seat I bought while pregnant and explained to dp that I wanted this car seat used until she’s outgrown it as it has an excellent safety record. Mil has bought her own which I wasn’t made aware of until she turned up with it. It’s not as safe as ours and I’m upset that something I put a lot of thought into and wanted my daughter to use is discarded without so much as a word about it to me. I get that eventually she would have had to get one for her car but I was hoping it would be when dd was a bit older and more solid and that maybe the choice was at least run by me first.

Dd has a dummy. I know many people don’t like them but I have several children who have all had one and no teeth issues. I also like that there’s research suggesting they may slightly protect against SIDS. Mil despises dummies and pretty much told us that dd wasn’t having one. This has led dp to hide the fact we use one until he accidentally posted a photo with it in sight. Mil was not happy about this. I’m concerned of her ever having dd overnight because I know she will let dd scream all night rather than just give her the dummy.

I’m prepared to hear I’m being precious first born about the previous issues (even though this is far from my first!) but this one has got to me. I really don’t like cold water sterilisers and Milton. I personally believe if we can sterilise a bottle without chemicals why would we want to use them. Mil is the total opposite and doesn’t believe things are clean unless there chemically sterilised. When she was a few days old I did use Milton to sterilise to appease her and dd exorcism style projectile vomited her whole feed up. A week later mil was down and we tried again and the same thing happened which led me to conclude that she was better with steam sterilised bottles. Anyway the last two times mil has had dd, the following day she’s been vomiting large quantities up which I’ve found strange. Then dp let slip that mil doesn’t use the bottles we provide. She has her own which knowing her have been sterilised in Milton. While it’s such a tiny thing it’s really bothering me. It’s the one thing I have actively stood up and said to her I don’t like and she’s decided my feelings on it do not matter and done it anyway.

I learnt this morning that she now has her own stroller for dd at her house for when she’s old enough to use it. Again, a very small thing in the grand scheme of things but why is she so adamant to not use anything that I’ve carefully chosen for my daughter. I’m actually starting to question if she thinks my things aren’t good enough.

Dd came back from the last trip bathed and with all her cradle cap scrubbed off. She was bathed the night before so didn’t need a bath but I accept that she could have vomited/had an explosive poo. Dd doesn’t have bad cradle cap to begin with but I wanted it to fall out naturally because when I used products on her sibling lots of her hair came out with it. I had explained this.

Sorry that was long! I’m just feeling really down about it and then I feel pathetic for feeling down about it. None of it is awful. None of it feels worth causing an argument over but I don’t like feeling upset about it. I’m also somewhat concerned what the future is going to look like and the potential for this to become a bigger problem.

OP posts:
Flazzled · Yesterday 18:09

Your baby is not a toy! Your MiL is treating DD as a plaything. Start saying no now because it will escalate.

coronafiona · Yesterday 18:11

You are being PFB I’m afraid. Be very very grateful for the help and don’t sweat the small stuff like clothes. I would ask to buy her a car seat of the brand of your choice though. And be prepared to hurt her feelings so do it very kindly but stand your ground on that one.

WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself · Yesterday 18:13

Why on earth are you packing a 4 month old off for 9 to 10 hours at a time if you don’t want to? Honestly that’s not a reasonable expectation on her part and unlikely to be your baby’s preference.

Your husband also needs to put his child first and act like an adult. I can’t believe he was hiding the fact you’ve chosen to let your daughter have a dummy from his mother.

Surely the three of you can visit MIL at her home and MIL can visit you at your home, whatever. What you describe is not normal at all.

Loubissou · Yesterday 18:13

Nope. Would not be happy with any of that. Unless you are back at work, she does not need to be taking your baby away for the day like that. She is stomping all over boundaries. Time to say to her that if she directly goes against your requests, she cannot have her for the day. And mean it.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · Yesterday 18:15

Jesus what have I just read, OP! 4 month old and you’re handing your baby to someone for 10 HOURS?! Different if you want to but this is so sad to read: “was far from ready for this but dp clearly didn’t want to upset her so I felt like I had to agree.”

Find your inner mum rage and shut that shit down. It’s different for a few hours but they are walking all over you.

BeBluntCoralBird · Yesterday 18:15

Is DP bothered by all these things?

Namechangewegovyjune26 · Yesterday 18:16

coronafiona · Yesterday 18:11

You are being PFB I’m afraid. Be very very grateful for the help and don’t sweat the small stuff like clothes. I would ask to buy her a car seat of the brand of your choice though. And be prepared to hurt her feelings so do it very kindly but stand your ground on that one.

Please don’t listen to this. Being pressured to hand your 4 month old baby to anyone for over 9 hours against your will is abuse.

Loubissou · Yesterday 18:16

coronafiona · Yesterday 18:11

You are being PFB I’m afraid. Be very very grateful for the help and don’t sweat the small stuff like clothes. I would ask to buy her a car seat of the brand of your choice though. And be prepared to hurt her feelings so do it very kindly but stand your ground on that one.

OP says she has a sibling. This is not a PFB situation. It is a boundary ignoring MIL situation with a wet lettuce husband who is not in his wife's corner.

Itsablondebobkindaday · Yesterday 18:18

Ironically she’s not even close to my first born! I have more than the average, you’d think I’d be so happy for the help the door would be slamming shut behind them.

I think the real issue is that I’m not ready for her to be away from me, especially for that long. That feeling is then intensified because I don’t trust mil to follow any wishes that aren’t her own. Dp is useless where his mother is concerned. She tends to shut down anything he says and I get the impression he’s scared of rocking the boat with her. He’s happier for me to be upset than he is to potentially cause issues with her.

OP posts:
Wishihadanalgorithm · Yesterday 18:18

Your MIL is way out of line.

Your DP needs to step in and tell her to back off with the weirdness. And it is weird and controlling - her behaviour suggests she sees your child as hers.

No more alone visits - baby stays with you. This will remove the other issues.

She won’t like this, but it’s “MIL, you have raised your baby and I’m now raising mine.”

I’d be blunt and possibly rude because it sounds like she has no care for your feelings - you only owe her the same.

PinkNailPolish2026 · Yesterday 18:19

That would be a no from me no matter how DH had felt. She’s not some doll to play dress up with bath and MIL doesn’t get to decide whether your child has a dummy. I was never precious with my children but no they would never have been spending that amount of time with anyone except DH or I at 4 months old. Nip this in the bud now is my advice and get boundaries in place. My MIL adored our children and often took them for a walk in the pram etc but she’d never have overstepped like this. You need to have a very frank conversation with your DH and tell him you are not comfortable with this.

angelikacpickles · Yesterday 18:19

coronafiona · Yesterday 18:11

You are being PFB I’m afraid. Be very very grateful for the help and don’t sweat the small stuff like clothes. I would ask to buy her a car seat of the brand of your choice though. And be prepared to hurt her feelings so do it very kindly but stand your ground on that one.

It's not her first born 🙄

PollysKenwood · Yesterday 18:20

My 2 are now 20 and 17 and there is no way at 4 months old they would have been spending 9-10 hours with anyone other than their father unless I needed to work (or another good reason, like the time I needed to take my own father to his chemo session). You shouldn’t feel guilt tripped into doing that.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · Yesterday 18:20

Itsablondebobkindaday · Yesterday 18:18

Ironically she’s not even close to my first born! I have more than the average, you’d think I’d be so happy for the help the door would be slamming shut behind them.

I think the real issue is that I’m not ready for her to be away from me, especially for that long. That feeling is then intensified because I don’t trust mil to follow any wishes that aren’t her own. Dp is useless where his mother is concerned. She tends to shut down anything he says and I get the impression he’s scared of rocking the boat with her. He’s happier for me to be upset than he is to potentially cause issues with her.

This is so important - read this back to yourself “He’s happier for me to be upset than he is to potentially cause issues with her.”

He does not have your back. He does not care about what is best for your baby.

I think you need a very frank chat with him and maybe some therapy for you alone, your boundaries sound non existent. You need to find some inner strength and fight for what is best for your baby OP. A 4 month old does not need to be torn away from their mother like that.

PollysKenwood · Yesterday 18:20

If you wanted it then fine but you don’t so it isn’t fine.

ponyprincess · Yesterday 18:21

Just say no- at 4 months, unless you need the help, this is not necessary. Think what would be helpful to you and DH amd propose that.
Regarding the clothes and all the details- unless it's dangerous I would let it go.

Ljzjta · Yesterday 18:21

Firstly I wouldn’t send my 4 month old off for 9-10 hours at a time. Secondly, I wouldnt be happy that she’s playing dress up and getting her bathed and changed for zero reason. Obviously if she’s had an explosive poo etc then it’s different but presuming you pack spare clothes etc for that. I also don’t see the need for a buggy or car seat. Surely you can just pass those over? I would cut back on the long day ahead has her and try and limit time alone; there’s just no need. You’re not being unreasonable and I understand it’s difficult not to hurt feelings but I would simply start by cutting back on the day she takes her. I would say.. oh I have plans, or she has an appointment or we are doing this on x day etc. don’t make it an expected day and do more on an ad hoc situation.

Ljzjta · Yesterday 18:23

Itsablondebobkindaday · Yesterday 18:18

Ironically she’s not even close to my first born! I have more than the average, you’d think I’d be so happy for the help the door would be slamming shut behind them.

I think the real issue is that I’m not ready for her to be away from me, especially for that long. That feeling is then intensified because I don’t trust mil to follow any wishes that aren’t her own. Dp is useless where his mother is concerned. She tends to shut down anything he says and I get the impression he’s scared of rocking the boat with her. He’s happier for me to be upset than he is to potentially cause issues with her.

Let me guess… your first born is a boy?

Ilovemyfam · Yesterday 18:24

I think your response is absolutely normal. When I am looking after my grandchildren I try to do exactly what the parents want. I am trying to support them.

There are attitudes that have changed over sleeping, feeding and napping. I am not going to argue. Maybe it is because I recall not being happy about some of my MIL methods. She was a good woman but preferred to do things her way. My girls were toddlers by the time she had them. It was over things like buying them sweets so I got over it.

I would ignore the change of clothes - but send bottles that have been sterilized by you. Insist she uses them.

I would not compromise on safety so I would insist on a new car seat or that you do the drop offs.

If she doesn’t comply then she needs to stick to contact at your house.

Naurrr · Yesterday 18:24

He’s happier for me to be upset than he is to potentially cause issues with her.

Yikes. The relationship isn't going to work unless your boyfriend completely changes.
Advocate for your baby.

Dunnocantthinkofone · Yesterday 18:25

Bloody hell OP! I’m a ‘dreaded MIL’ and came on thinking it’d be another bashing thread where a mum is actively looking for reasons to be pissed off with little reason.
This is so far from that, that I can’t understand why you are UNDER reacting!

It looks like quite a lot more than ‘undermining in small ways’ from where I am!

bluebeck · Yesterday 18:25

You know you have a DH problem.

I would tell him no more unsupervised visits to MILS. He needs to make a decision about which one of you he is willing to piss off permanently.

GrumpyPanda · Yesterday 18:25

YANBU in the slightest. Fortunately for you, you can use the repeat vomiting alone as a reason to shut down any more lengthy visits with MIL.

Vaxtable · Yesterday 18:27

No way at 4 months old would any child of mine be going away for 9/10 hours

you put your foot down now. You do the list you have given her to your DP and tell him his mother is not having her again

by all means she can come and see her at yours but she is not a bloody doll she’s a child that needs her mother

morden123 · Yesterday 18:28

Hi, I have grandchildren and some have had dummies and some haven't, I absolutely would do as the mum wished, its not fair on the baby to go without a dummy for all that time when she's used to it. I think the pram thing is not a big deal as it would save hassle having to put in and out of your car etc to have a spare. If you feel strongly about the car seat then I would have words about that. Honestly speaking its my daughters that have had the children and I would not be going against them like this, if it was a daughter in law I would be even more cautious so it says a lot about your mum in law, not good I'm afraid. Stand up for yourself or it will get worse,

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