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AIBU to not compromise on my daughters birthday dinner for the sake of my niece and nephews

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randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 12:19

My DD is turning 12 tomorrow, I also have a DS. Me and my DH have decided to let our daughter plan the entire day. She is having a birthday party with her friends next week, so on her actual birthday she wants to spend time with her cousins. So the whole family is coming over for the day. We are all going to the cinema and then we are going to dinner. My daughter loves seafood, and there is this one restaurant she wants to go to for her birthday. The restaurant is a bit more fancy than where we would usually go with the whole extended family, but it's her birthday and I'm willing to pay a bit more money for dinner because it's her birthday.

I did send my family a text and I told them about the restaurant. I also told them that I don't mind helping pay if some people think affording this restaurant would be difficult for them. Because I don't expect everybody to be able to afford the prices. Everybody was okay with the price and they were excited to go. Except for my brother, he told me that he looked at the kids menu and he said there was nothing in the menu that his kids would like. To be fair, the kids menu is more limited, there are options on the kids menu but because the restaurant is more fancy the kids menu is basically just smaller versions of the main dishes. The few non-seafood meals on the kids menu are also foods my brothers kids do not like. His kids are 11, 9 and 6.

So I did ask my daughter if there was any other restaurant she wants to go to. She said no.

I told my brother that I'm sorry but it's my daughters birthday and this is the one restaurant she wants to go to. I told him that his kids can eat something before we go to the restaurant but I also told him that surely there has to be something his kids like at the restaurant. I've looked at the menu and the kids menu still has things like fish and chips but his kids don't like fish. So I told him that his kids can have chips. But he is telling me it's not fair that his kids only have have the option of eating chips at this restaurant.

However, I am not changing the restaurant, my daughter wants to eat dinner at this place so that is where we are going to eat dinner

OP posts:
sittingonabeach · 24/07/2026 13:49

concertinacornflake · 24/07/2026 13:44

No, because good manners and consideration are reciprocal.

So when inviting, you consider everyone's happiness. When being invited, your happiness should be considered.

If you're not used to good manners, it might be hard to understand at first but it all works out fair in the end.

But if the brother expects people to go to the 3 limited restaurants when they are inviting people he’s not taking the happiness of extended family into account. I wouldn’t particularly enjoy a meal at McDonalds

Neuronimo · 24/07/2026 13:49

I really don't think YABU, surely they can spend the day together, so the cinema and then skip the meal? At least they have one food option.

Tinks2026 · 24/07/2026 13:50

Malinia · 24/07/2026 13:34

This assumes they are truly bothered about the cousins. I'm getting the sense that isn't the case. I honestly can't imagine choosing somewhere to eat where people I cared about couldn't get a decent meal.

I've already said I am vegan but I would never insist on everyone going to a vegan only restaurant with me because my dad likes to eat traditional meat and two veg.

Equally they would never choose a steakhouse where I couldn't eat the main course.

We love and care about each other so we choose places where we can all eat even if that means there's a bit of a compromise.

It's an important life lesson about compassion and caring that op ought to teach her daughter (and any sons, if she has them) but seems reluctant to.

What a stupid post.

It's great OP won't spoil her daughter's special treat to appease fussy eaters.

No big deal.

acynic · 24/07/2026 13:52

Shodan · 24/07/2026 13:10

I would be expecting your brother to say to his children something like 'Everyone always goes to restaurants that suit you, because you're picky about food. This is one occasion where it's not about you, it's about your cousin and her birthday so you will suck it up, smile and have some chips. Then I'll get you McDonalds on the way home.'

And I say this as someone who had a very fussy eater, who grew up understanding that the world didn't revolve around him (and consequently is not a selfish adult)

Brava, @Shodan.

I have paused my reading at your post, so perhaps the thread then takes a different turn. But as I read to this point I was growing more and more incredulous.

True, OP initially suppressed the extreme pickiness of this one set of cousins. But she did make it clear early on that others were looking forward to the restaurant. And now we know why, as it is surely a welcome change from the three places with exactly the right chicken nuggets and chips. We all know that those are not likely to offer the most delicious food in general.

Why no one commented on the selfishness of the picky eaters in bending the extended family to their culinary demands for, apparently, quite some time, is beyond me. In my home country their behaviour would be unthinkable unless severe, diagnosed autism or a similar disorder was the cause. Educating children’s palates should be part of helping them to grow up.

HardyFox · 24/07/2026 13:52

I would change the reservation to a generic restaurant where everyone will be happy with a reasonably priced and more suitable for all meal, eplaining to your daughter that in this way all the cousins she wants to spend time with will come.
I would then book another day as ongoing 'birthday celebrations' just for your family at the seafood restaurant and, because it is in a higher price bracket perhaps make it special by all dressing smartly and making it more of an immediate family celebration, maybe arrange for a small bouquet of flowers or a little extra present gift-wrapped on her place setting.
Although I do agree that your brother and family could perhaps have gone with the flow without making a fuss, I think they could make the meal more awkward by making a point of not liking the menu, just ordering chips or whatever and thus spoiling the occasion.
At 12 your daughter is old enough to undertand this and should be happy with the change of arrangements once she understands the reason.
Apologies if this has already been mooted, haven't read the complete thread yet.

backformoreofthesame · 24/07/2026 13:52

If you are truly bothered by your cousins you will …. allow them to show how little they are bothered by you by allowing them to dictate what you do on your birthday …

Esmeraldathe3rd · 24/07/2026 13:52

Brother never has to compromise. The whole family always goes where they want to eat.

This is your daughter's birthday. She can go where she wants. If they can't come because they couldn't possibly feed their kids anything other than chicken nuggets and chips then that's on them

backformoreofthesame · 24/07/2026 13:53

Everyone - apart from birthday girl who didn’t want a generic restaurant

Loubissou · 24/07/2026 13:53

SpottyPyjama · 24/07/2026 13:00

You are teaching your daughter to be a very selfish host. If she wants to spend time with her cousins then she should consider the basic things that would make them comfortable, like being able to eat. Seafood is a bit of a niche preference and is widely disliked. I’d be encouraging my child to be more accommodating of people she’s supposed to care about,

This is a tell me you are a picky eater without telling me you are a picky eater post.

Seafood is not a niche preference. Judging by the popularity of fish restaurants, it is enjoyed by huge numbers of people.

I would be encouraging my children to try new things and be more adventurous than living on beige freezer food.

randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 13:54

VIII · 24/07/2026 13:45

Especially if the reason we would have to go to 2 different restaurants is because of my brother

You don't have to do two restaurants though. Surely you can have some food at home on one day when they are playing in the garden and then go out on a separate day to the restaurant?

Because my daughter wants to go to a restaurant on her actual birthday. And the rest of the family, apart from my brother, wants to go to this restaurant too.

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Whosthetabbynow · 24/07/2026 13:54

I’d say “that’s where we are going. You’re all invited. Come, don’t come. Up to you’.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2026 13:55

Gemilo · 24/07/2026 13:40

You seem to be missing the point. Have a meal with just your daughter at the expensive seafood restaurant and go to a cheaper place en masse where everybody can afford their own. Daughter sounds a bit spoilt frankly and you are enabling her.

It's her daughter's birthday so her wishes should come first. She normally never gets to go to this restaurant but has chosen this as a birthday treat.

As an adult, I doubt whether you would choose to have a meal in a restaurant that you didn't really like rather than your favourite restaurant.

I had a child with ARFID and in this scenario he would have just had chips and I would have made him something else when we got home.

nocoolnamesleft · 24/07/2026 13:55

How about the cousins learning consequences? If they’re fussy as fuck, there won’t always be something they like to eat. (Presuming non neurodiversity)

VIII · 24/07/2026 13:56

nocoolnamesleft · 24/07/2026 13:55

How about the cousins learning consequences? If they’re fussy as fuck, there won’t always be something they like to eat. (Presuming non neurodiversity)

It actually seems incredibly likely they are neurodiverse if all 3 eat such a limited diet.

Buggeroffboss · 24/07/2026 13:56

I'm constantly taking my youngest to places where she won't eat a thing. I really don't see the big deal.

Abyzou · 24/07/2026 13:56

Wth am I reading? Do NOT relent OP, under no circumstances. Go to your daughter's favourite restaurant 100%.

As for the 'selfish' comments.. So let me get this straight. A girl who is celebrating her birthday needs to consider others' needs before her own, choose a place she doesn't want to go to, foregoing her favourite restaurant, even though everyone else other than one of her uncles is happy to attend. Otherwise, she's apparently 'selfish'. On her own birthday, no less.

But OP's brother, with his ridiculous beige kids, who dictates every family occasion, and who is apparently can go to only 3 restaurants - he and his chicken nuggets kids are perfectly reasonable and fine. So OP, her daughter, and all the extended family have to dance to the tune of some McDonald's sprogs.

If you relent on this, OP, you're teaching your daughter to be a people pleaser, to overlook her own needs, put others before her, and that she doesn't matter. Because in life there will always be 'that cousin', 'that colleague', 'that friend', 'that whoever'. She needs to learn to prioritise herself and say no. Your brother can stay home.

BasiliskStare · 24/07/2026 13:59

As a PP alluded to - can you phone the restaurant and ask them if they will do plates of plain pasta for DB's children? Or the children can have chips having had something before.
Honestly I think once in a while DB has to face up to the fact his children cannot be accommodated perfectly every single time.

Buggeroffboss · 24/07/2026 14:00

nocoolnamesleft · 24/07/2026 13:55

How about the cousins learning consequences? If they’re fussy as fuck, there won’t always be something they like to eat. (Presuming non neurodiversity)

Even with neuro diversity, at some point you have to learn you can't always have things your own way. Either go or don't. My daughter (AuDHD) frequently sits in restaurants and eats chips (and sometimes doesn't eat anything) whilst the rest of us enjoy a lovely meal. It's a life skill.

randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 14:00

VIII · 24/07/2026 13:56

It actually seems incredibly likely they are neurodiverse if all 3 eat such a limited diet.

None of the kids have been diagnosed as neurodivergent

OP posts:
sittingonabeach · 24/07/2026 14:00

You never know the children might actually find something they like at the restaurant

And I bet there will be at least one pudding they like

Grammarnut · 24/07/2026 14:00

randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 13:00

Cause I didn't think it was relevant to mention just how picky his kids are?

I'm with you on this OP. Picky eaters - and allowing children to be picky eaters - irritates me. Children offered an array of interesting food (which my DC as children would have eaten) and wanting plain pasta or chips is ridiculous. Introduce different foods when they are small, keep eating ditto - my DC were brought up on what I think others would find very hot spiced food (and veggie food at home - they and I ate meat outside) and they still eat this and feed it to their DC.
I think we could call this habit of only eating bland foods we know about 'Elvis syndrome'?

TheDenimPoet · 24/07/2026 14:01

I'd have some food at yours after the cinema (a few pizzas or something) and then take your DD to the restaurant another time.

I get that she wants to enjoy the restaurant and spend time with her cousins, but if it's something they specifically don't like, you really can't expect them to do it.

VIII · 24/07/2026 14:02

randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 14:00

None of the kids have been diagnosed as neurodivergent

That doesn't mean that they aren't.

You've been given some good advice on including everyone but if your daughter wants to eat there then tell your brother he's unfortunately not able to come and hopefully you can do something with them another time.

acynic · 24/07/2026 14:02

Malasana · 24/07/2026 13:24

If your daughter wants to spend time
with her cousins and also have a meal out, she needs to pick somewhere that will suit everyone. She can’t really have both if she’s picked somewhere they don’t like the food. It’s unfair for them to have to sit with a plate of chips.

I’d suggest that it would be more reasonable to pick a place everyone will enjoy and visit the seafood restaurant another time.

I also feel a bit of judgement coming from you about the range of food your brothers kids will eat….. it’s not something I can put my finger on but it’s just your wording.

I’d also add that you’ve probably made people feel uncomfortable mentioning helping them to pay.

In your brothers shoes I wouldn’t take my kids somewhere where their food options are limited to chips.

Well the brothers’ DC self limit their choices to a certain type of chicken nugget, plain pasta and chips, anyway. So I cannot see that a restriction to chips is a huge let down.

I suspect these kiddos are up for pudding, however.

Pinkflamingo10 · 24/07/2026 14:02

There’s nothing at all on the entire children’s or adult menu that your nieces and nephews would eat ?!!
your brother has bigger problems than just this celebration so. Offer your daughter the choice -you proceed without your bro and his kids, or you change the restaurant to something everyone is able to eat at.

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