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AIBU to not compromise on my daughters birthday dinner for the sake of my niece and nephews

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randomcar1990 · 24/07/2026 12:19

My DD is turning 12 tomorrow, I also have a DS. Me and my DH have decided to let our daughter plan the entire day. She is having a birthday party with her friends next week, so on her actual birthday she wants to spend time with her cousins. So the whole family is coming over for the day. We are all going to the cinema and then we are going to dinner. My daughter loves seafood, and there is this one restaurant she wants to go to for her birthday. The restaurant is a bit more fancy than where we would usually go with the whole extended family, but it's her birthday and I'm willing to pay a bit more money for dinner because it's her birthday.

I did send my family a text and I told them about the restaurant. I also told them that I don't mind helping pay if some people think affording this restaurant would be difficult for them. Because I don't expect everybody to be able to afford the prices. Everybody was okay with the price and they were excited to go. Except for my brother, he told me that he looked at the kids menu and he said there was nothing in the menu that his kids would like. To be fair, the kids menu is more limited, there are options on the kids menu but because the restaurant is more fancy the kids menu is basically just smaller versions of the main dishes. The few non-seafood meals on the kids menu are also foods my brothers kids do not like. His kids are 11, 9 and 6.

So I did ask my daughter if there was any other restaurant she wants to go to. She said no.

I told my brother that I'm sorry but it's my daughters birthday and this is the one restaurant she wants to go to. I told him that his kids can eat something before we go to the restaurant but I also told him that surely there has to be something his kids like at the restaurant. I've looked at the menu and the kids menu still has things like fish and chips but his kids don't like fish. So I told him that his kids can have chips. But he is telling me it's not fair that his kids only have have the option of eating chips at this restaurant.

However, I am not changing the restaurant, my daughter wants to eat dinner at this place so that is where we are going to eat dinner

OP posts:
NeededANameChangeAnyway · Yesterday 09:59

It's your daughter's birthday.she gets to choose what she's doing! If her picky cousins won't eat at the restaurant then they either eat before as PP have said, they eat a dessert only or they don't go and they miss out on that bit. Why should the birthday girl have to compromise? Why doesn't the brother and his kids? It's only one meal out of the whole year and it seems the rest of the time they go places the cousins will eat

grumpygrape · Yesterday 10:03

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 09:36

@Notrainingbutpouring I get your points about allergies (had DC with food allergy when a baby) and ND, but many parents feed their DC a limited menu, hence the bland kids menu in many places. Whenever, new meals were introduced at school when DC were at Primary many parents would automatically say their DC won’t eat that. Many children sticking to jacket potato and beans, and complete horror and revulsion if tuna was the only topping on offer. School would have meal tasting sessions for the parents to try and encourage more adventurous eating habits (and it wasn’t too adventurous) One parent friend said to me when their child was about 6, they’ll never eat this option on the menu as we haven’t even tried spag bol with them yet

Many countries don’t offer as many choices for school dinners, allowing for dietary requirements. Or go for for flavours not beige

I am sure many people don’t eat fish as wasn’t eaten regularly at home so the ‘ugh fish’ continues into the next generation

I love reading the primary school menus posted outside the schools in France. OP's brothers children would go home hungry most days.

WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 10:04

Netcurtainnelly · 24/07/2026 12:53

Can't you have a meal or picnic food at home or in the garden. Why does everything revolve around going out to eat?

Not everyone wants to be faffing around with sandwiches in the backyard.
Some people like to go out and enjoy a meal.

op she can’t have it both ways, neither is wrong. But she stands to lose out more if she insists on the restaurant.

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:07

WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 10:04

Not everyone wants to be faffing around with sandwiches in the backyard.
Some people like to go out and enjoy a meal.

op she can’t have it both ways, neither is wrong. But she stands to lose out more if she insists on the restaurant.

Everyone (including other extended family and cousins) stands to lose out more if they pander once again! They actually want to go to that restaurant and are excited about it.

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 10:09

acynic · Yesterday 09:52

You and other PP have agreed that OP’s DD needs to consider others. In this case that means prioritising the wishes of three cousins, even though it has been revealed that (a) the rest of the extended family likes the idea of this restaurant; (b) these cousins will only eat ‘the right’ chicken nuggets, chips, or if necessary plain pasta at restaurants; and therefore (c) at their insistence all meals out have been limited to a choice of three restaurants for some time.

Someone needs to learn about sharing, taking turns and consideration for others, but it isn’t OP’s DD.

Maybe. But equally, best for DD to learn now that: a) you can’t make your relatives do anything they don’t want to do. B) birthdays are disappointing as is Christmas, anniversaries, holidays and everything else. C) you can’t please everyone d) eating out is over rated. D) in the scheme of things it’s not a biggie. If she accepts this now it’ll save her a lot of angst and MM posts later on!

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:17

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 10:09

Maybe. But equally, best for DD to learn now that: a) you can’t make your relatives do anything they don’t want to do. B) birthdays are disappointing as is Christmas, anniversaries, holidays and everything else. C) you can’t please everyone d) eating out is over rated. D) in the scheme of things it’s not a biggie. If she accepts this now it’ll save her a lot of angst and MM posts later on!

You don’t like your life much, do you?

gannett · Yesterday 10:18

What a drama about nothing.

Whenever you pick what you want to do when you're hosting a party, you have to accept that it won't be to everyone's taste. This will happen throughout her life.

When I went clubbing for one of my birthdays I accepted that my friends who weren't into it probably wouldn't come. When one of my friends went glamping for her birthday I'm sure she didn't expect me to go. It didn't affect any of the friendships.

The compromises you make are up to you ultimately. On the one hand, trying to please everyone all the time is a mug's game so you should really just pick the restaurant you want for your birthday. On the other, when I had a small birthday dinner for close friends one year, and I knew one of those people didn't like spicy food, I opted not to book a Szechuan place and went for an Italian instead.

But none of this was actually an issue or caused any drama. The most baffling thing about this thread is how big of a problem it seems to be for OP's family. If the fussy cousins don't want to go to the restaurant then that's OK surely. No one needs to change anything.

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:21

gannett · Yesterday 10:18

What a drama about nothing.

Whenever you pick what you want to do when you're hosting a party, you have to accept that it won't be to everyone's taste. This will happen throughout her life.

When I went clubbing for one of my birthdays I accepted that my friends who weren't into it probably wouldn't come. When one of my friends went glamping for her birthday I'm sure she didn't expect me to go. It didn't affect any of the friendships.

The compromises you make are up to you ultimately. On the one hand, trying to please everyone all the time is a mug's game so you should really just pick the restaurant you want for your birthday. On the other, when I had a small birthday dinner for close friends one year, and I knew one of those people didn't like spicy food, I opted not to book a Szechuan place and went for an Italian instead.

But none of this was actually an issue or caused any drama. The most baffling thing about this thread is how big of a problem it seems to be for OP's family. If the fussy cousins don't want to go to the restaurant then that's OK surely. No one needs to change anything.

And if she didn’t want Italian either? Or any other restaurant that wasn’t her specific 3 restaurants?

gannett · Yesterday 10:26

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:21

And if she didn’t want Italian either? Or any other restaurant that wasn’t her specific 3 restaurants?

Well... she did want Italian, which I knew already, so it's a moot point. She's not a fussy eater. It was easy to find somewhere that would please both of us.

If I was friends with a super-fussy eater I would just not invite them to a restaurant (and a super-fussy eater probably wouldn't mind, as restaurants are presumably not their thing).

whistlesandbells · Yesterday 10:30

Why didn’t you just go to the restaurant with your own family after the cinema with cousins? Have a nice time then wave them off. Some things are best saved and special for you, your child and how your family unit likes it.

So much hassle and complication.

WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 10:32

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:07

Everyone (including other extended family and cousins) stands to lose out more if they pander once again! They actually want to go to that restaurant and are excited about it.

Given that the only reason to go is the 12yo birthday and she wanted her cousins there, then she does stand to lose out the most.

my opinion is let the 3 cousins miss out. They need consequences for the fussiness.

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 10:39

WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 10:32

Given that the only reason to go is the 12yo birthday and she wanted her cousins there, then she does stand to lose out the most.

my opinion is let the 3 cousins miss out. They need consequences for the fussiness.

She has some cousins there and picky eater cousins can eat chips, which is probably what they eat at their ‘safe’ restaurants.

Dobeebeedah · Yesterday 10:41

I have looked at the menu and prices. It is not an expensive restaurant at all. It is normal prices. Agreed it is not cheap, i.e. McD's, KFC etc.

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:53

gannett · Yesterday 10:26

Well... she did want Italian, which I knew already, so it's a moot point. She's not a fussy eater. It was easy to find somewhere that would please both of us.

If I was friends with a super-fussy eater I would just not invite them to a restaurant (and a super-fussy eater probably wouldn't mind, as restaurants are presumably not their thing).

The ones that grow up being pandered to like the cousins are, absolutely would mind! Trust me!

Fussy people who manage their fussiness without making it other people’s problem, absolutely can socialise , have fun and enjoy an outing even if the food isn’t an option, so don’t assume they automatically should be excluded.

acynic · Yesterday 10:59

grumpygrape · Yesterday 10:03

I love reading the primary school menus posted outside the schools in France. OP's brothers children would go home hungry most days.

French school menus are very good,
and all DC are strongly encouraged to take them up with generous financial aid provided.

Educating children’s palates is taken very seriously there. New foods are discussed in the early years classrooms then introduced in small steps during successive lunches. The French educational system is far from perfect, but they do food right.

SomethingFun · Yesterday 11:02

If you’re fussy (and I mean fussy not allergies or vegan or anything) you don’t understand what an impact it has on everyone else when you go out for a meal. The face pulling at anyone eating something you wouldn’t eat and then the comments, looking like you’re going to throw up when you put the smallest bit of plain chicken on your fork, the stress about ordering said plain chicken off a very unadventurous menu. I’ve got some picky extended family members and it doesn’t matter how plain or safe the food is, it’s never plain or safe enough for them. So the brother should graciously decline and let the rest of the family enjoy a meal out for once imho and the consequences of being a picky fucker should be on the pickers and not on everyone else for a change.

Silverbirchleaf · Yesterday 11:07

Maybe the cousins need to learn to ‘go with the flow’ and not have everything tailored to their needs. Their parents also need ti work on expanding their food tastes .

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 11:12

SomethingFun · Yesterday 11:02

If you’re fussy (and I mean fussy not allergies or vegan or anything) you don’t understand what an impact it has on everyone else when you go out for a meal. The face pulling at anyone eating something you wouldn’t eat and then the comments, looking like you’re going to throw up when you put the smallest bit of plain chicken on your fork, the stress about ordering said plain chicken off a very unadventurous menu. I’ve got some picky extended family members and it doesn’t matter how plain or safe the food is, it’s never plain or safe enough for them. So the brother should graciously decline and let the rest of the family enjoy a meal out for once imho and the consequences of being a picky fucker should be on the pickers and not on everyone else for a change.

That behaviour is a choice and nothing to do with the fussiness. The only time I pulled faces or made any kind of noises was when a “i know better than you “ fucker secretly served me lamb in a curry. In her opinion, my issues were because I never had lamb “the right way”. So she decided to “fix” me. Nope , I reacted the exact same way I always did (feeling queasy/actually being sick) and I had told her in conversations. The irony is , SHE was the offended one. Ex friend after that, obviously.

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 11:18

My eldest GC loves sushi, snacks on seaweed etc. Her younger sibling has a restricted eating pattern. We'd go with the eating before we went, chips and desert. It's your DD's birthday, she gets to choose.

gannett · Yesterday 11:29

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 10:53

The ones that grow up being pandered to like the cousins are, absolutely would mind! Trust me!

Fussy people who manage their fussiness without making it other people’s problem, absolutely can socialise , have fun and enjoy an outing even if the food isn’t an option, so don’t assume they automatically should be excluded.

I wouldn't ask anyone to go to a restaurant and sit there watching everyone else tuck in while they picked at some chips. I can hang out with them at other times and in other places.

A super-fussy eater who expected to be pandered to would not be a friend of mine, I don't have the energy for that in my life.

TheignT · Yesterday 11:30

Silverbirchleaf · Yesterday 11:07

Maybe the cousins need to learn to ‘go with the flow’ and not have everything tailored to their needs. Their parents also need ti work on expanding their food tastes .

You know that for many children this isn't a choice? For some it might just be fussiness for others a medical condition. ARFID is a recognised medical condition.

chirrupybird · Yesterday 11:33

Can you ask the restaurant if they could do something they would like? Or if it would be alright to bring something to go with chips, if you are a big party spending lots of money they may be happy to help.

Bunnycat101 · Yesterday 11:35

I think if the cousins are important, she should have picked a restaurant that accommodates them and wider family and then done the fish restaurant as a smaller family outing. You have to learn that when you’re dealing with a larger group, you have to compromise a bit for harmony.

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 11:39

gannett · Yesterday 11:29

I wouldn't ask anyone to go to a restaurant and sit there watching everyone else tuck in while they picked at some chips. I can hang out with them at other times and in other places.

A super-fussy eater who expected to be pandered to would not be a friend of mine, I don't have the energy for that in my life.

What if they enthusiastically eat the chips?😬

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 11:47

TheignT · Yesterday 11:30

You know that for many children this isn't a choice? For some it might just be fussiness for others a medical condition. ARFID is a recognised medical condition.

Even for ARFID, the advice isn’t avoid exposure to all foods other than safe food forever. It is positive exposure, without pressure. Like a nice day out with cousins and family, chatting, joking, having fun, and picking the one safe thing off the menu(or even nothing at all and they can eat before or after) while no one bats an eyelid or makes a fuss.