What is going on in this house?

[Neighbourmystery]

Right, this is going to sound nosy but here goes...
A house in a street I know was owned by an old lady with no family. When she died, her house stood empty for nearly a year then it started having work done. It's been bought by a health service far away from he town we live in (think I live in Liverpool and NHS Devon and Cornwall bought it) BTW these are not the real locations. So, they do lots of renovations, including putting a much higher fence up which has a key code entry they also put frosted film on every window. There's a new build extension on the side with coded keypads too. This is where 2 carers are. There are 4 carers altogether, 2 at a time and then a swap. There is one man who lives there . He is in his 30s , able bodied can move well etc I've seen him once or twice in the garden in a whole year. Another twice I saw a darkened van come to get him. He was only gone for an hour or so then back.
I cannot imagine the scenario this might be. I'm not curtain twitching and permanently watching but I am fascinated.

So they can politely ask a carer what the building is being used for, or even the council 🤷‍♂️

Local FB group is probably a good shout too.

But Mumsnet can't help.

For a while, I had a few clients who were ex-forensic secure mental health unit residents.

They went through a process where they gradually went from specialist secure MH units, to secure places where they had their own flats, but staffed 24/7 and they couldn't come and go as they pleased, to having their own accommodation with regular support visits.

It doesn't sound like that sort of thing to me.

As I made clear earlier I won't be talking about this in real life. I'm not expecting mumsnet to tell me the answer to my very specific neighbour (obviously)
I'm chatting. On a chat site

Well it's all a bit of a nonsense then but I'll leave you to it.

Nope. Councils spend a fortune on this kind of scenario. My husband had a case where the guy had autism and other co- morbidities and he would literally pull the pipes from within the walls. They had to keep moving him as he was so disruptive. Removing people’s freedom isn’t as easy as you’d think.

not just on people too. More money than you imagine is spent looking after people’s pets when the owners end up in care or hospitals.

Great thanks

I’ve got one opposite me, they put that film on the windows , they’ve prob done renovations inside to make self contained living . Ex offenders . We have a nightmare with the one opposite us , drugs mostly

It’s natural to want to know what’s going on at a state-run facility in your road.
Have you asked ChatGPT or researched the address online.
If the man is physically fit and healthy presumably he has mental issues, which is a bit concerning.

I wonder if people forget we are a social tribal species as humans. We drift in groups, we live in groups, we connect with others, we read others, we sense others, its instinctual and part of how we function

There is nothing abnormal or nosy about wondering who your neighbour is. Its completely appropriate

This is a chat forum, nothing more, nothing less so OP is musing on a chat forum about whats going on. Completely normal.

We are. It’s all incredibly expensive. I see children picked up in taxis with chaperones to and from my son’s junior school. It’s social care. It’s a huge cost.

How the fuck do you know how healthy he is? You’ve seen him walking around. That doesn’t mean he’s healthy. He might have multiple seizures every day for all you know, or require loads of horrible treatments or drugs to keep him looking as healthy as you think he is.

Thank you! This can be a weird place sometimes with people telling you off for chatting about something whilst on the same forum thread chatting..... it's crazy

Yes it's the fact that the NHS trust that's paid for this is so far away from this house. But, maybe it's worth it if the original place is very expensive? Can you tell if the carers work for the NHS trust of your area or the place that funded the works?

Yep we've come to that conclusion. No need to swear at me!

Their lanyards are from the far away trust

Sorry you are getting a hard time, @Neighbourmystery. I recently found out that some people with autism have to live in isolation for their own safety so it could be that. I had no idea autism could present with such severe and complex needs that are funded and supported this way so would have been mystified if this had happened to a property on my street until a few weeks ago. No idea why leaving your neighbour to get on with their life but expressing curiosity on SM provokes such ire - seems very human to me.

I'd guess they'd been psych patients released and relocated far away because of local infamy

Why do you think there are carers?

I think its fairly clear what she means, he is mobile and active. Not needing physical support. She might have made a mistake using the word healthy, its clear what she means though.

Its very likely as I said above, he is LD, or neuro/brain damage or MH supported.

Not sure why people have to act all offended when someone says something slightly different.

Ask someone?

Wow. Is that place commutable from (doesn't sound like it)?

There has to be a reason why that trust would pay for (1) a house (2) renovating the house to these specific needs (3) minimum of 4 employees for this patient (4) housing and travel and expenses for these 4+ employees. In order to justify this, I'm guessing they'd have to prove that nothing within that trust would work for this patient.

So, I reckon this is going to be a combination of medical needs and social needs eg close to a specific provider of medical care, far away from an aggressor.

OR, perhaps this young man is the deceased's son or grandchild and he's been left this house in her will?

All this faux naivety is interesting to say the least . 🙄

Definitely not a relative.
The trust they come from would be about 90 mins drive away at best with no traffic so quite far

House across the road from my mum was sold when the owner died. Bought by the authorities and done up to house a teenage boy with "behavioural difficulties " supported 24 hours. 2 hours each shift. It was done kn the quiet and the neighbours were not informed.
Since day on its been nothing but trouble, hordes of youngsters hanging out there and police attending on a regular basis. House values plummeted . So its not about being nosey,its about the quality of life of people who have to live amidst all this

Yup you got me guv bang to rights