What is going on in this house?

[Neighbourmystery]

Right, this is going to sound nosy but here goes...
A house in a street I know was owned by an old lady with no family. When she died, her house stood empty for nearly a year then it started having work done. It's been bought by a health service far away from he town we live in (think I live in Liverpool and NHS Devon and Cornwall bought it) BTW these are not the real locations. So, they do lots of renovations, including putting a much higher fence up which has a key code entry they also put frosted film on every window. There's a new build extension on the side with coded keypads too. This is where 2 carers are. There are 4 carers altogether, 2 at a time and then a swap. There is one man who lives there . He is in his 30s , able bodied can move well etc I've seen him once or twice in the garden in a whole year. Another twice I saw a darkened van come to get him. He was only gone for an hour or so then back.
I cannot imagine the scenario this might be. I'm not curtain twitching and permanently watching but I am fascinated.

@Neighbourmystery
Im now invested 😉, you need to find out what's going on and update us (me)😆

Surely witness protection? Not that I have a clue but I'd be interested as well.

The nhs trust from far away definitely own it. The man definitely lives there and never leaves but is young and able bodied etc
I thought witness protection or something like that with police dressed as carers but they are real carers.

He's very healthy and able

You don't know that.

There's a house across the road from me that when it was sold became an assisted living house. There's resident and a number of carers think there's usually two at a time but they seem to be the same ones on rotation. They don't wear a uniform though so I'm assuming they are not NHS ones they're just wearing their own clothes The person who's being assisted I think has some sort special needs disability rather than physical health issue. I imagine the key code is just a general security measures that they have to take for these houses for insurance purposes..
one of the carers was out in the garden smoking not long after they moved in and I said hello . He came across and told me it was an assisted living place.

I used to work in a similar sounding building with one man who had very severe autism and other disabilities, we were 5 to 1 carers in order to keep him safe.

He looked able bodied if you saw him walking round the garden outside but needed locked doors, windows and gates and total security for his own safety.
The windows were tinted as he got distressed when he could see outside as he didn’t like any subtle changes.
We also had a secure vehicle to take him out in for the day with tinted windows.
I absolutely adored him but it was hard work and could be scary.

It was a very expensive package and the staff needed a lot of training as it was such unique circumstances.

It sounds like it could be something similar or as others have said it could be housing offenders - that seems unlikely if it’s just one person though.

I’d be curious too and I don’t think that’s necessarily the same as being nosy so I don’t blame you for asking for opinions OP!

How do you know they're real carers?

How do you know how healthy he is?

Why not just ask a carer what the building is being used for next time you see them?

"He won't be a danger" ! May I bring to your attention the young French boy who was thrown from the Tate modern (2 carers), the 3yr old thrown in crocodile pit (2 carers) .
Not saying this is why he has 2 carers but I don't know why you would assume they are not a danger!

Sounds like supported living to me.

Wow 5 to 1 care? I didn't even know that existed really. This sounds almost exactly like the house I'm talking about, even the frosted window film and the darkened vehicle. Maybe this mystery is solved!

No it’s not. This is just a perfectly normal level of curiosity about a neighbour whose circumstances are pretty unusual.

It would be taking it to a whole new level if OP was scaling the fence, wearing a balaclava and trying to have a butchers inside.

We had similar on my old road OP and I never found out. Lovely old gent passed away. His house never had a for sale sign outside but at some point a woman and man who didn't speak English moved in and were often in the garden (only a 2ft wall around it, next to a main road en route to a primary school). My children would often say hello to them as we always did when we saw neighbours out and about which is how I now about the lack of English. They then were doing up the inside and one or two more people were often there, next thing a huge privacy fence went around (don't blame them for that as they were really on display), and an older person appeared using a zimmer who you'd see walked around the garden once or twice by one of the women every now and again and that was it. There were always white vans and random vehicles. Most intriguing! But one of those things where outside of forums like this you never mention it as it's none of your business.

Yes as @WhatsUpWithGene says definitely some form of LD/Autism.
it is cheaper to buy a community home and staff it rather than keep someone in secure care plus much nicer for the person, least restrictive option

You’ve got that close to see their lanyards ? I’d wonder why they are wearing them if it’s just him and them ?

Yeah if they get out of their car I can see their lanyards. They can also see mine. My road is not really wide. It's probably 2 and a half car widths.
When the renovations were being done there were also people there with the nhs trust logo or text on things

I worked with an agency nurse and she told me of a similar situation that was her next job. It was a house with one client and a minimum of 4 members of staff at all times. It was a very intense situation and she didn’t take shifts there very often as it could be all agency staff so it was a bit chaotic and the client could get triggered and become violent very easily. I have to say i was fascinated and I couldn’t believe the costs involved !!

Its possible that he has criminal conviction for something serious & also has a serious mental health condition which means he cant be left alone as he's too much of a risk to others so he needs to be monitored 24/7 for life. If he has served his sentence, is not able to be sectioned but still isnt safe to live freely amongst the general public, his local NHS trust will have the responsibility for keeping him safe and secure. It was probably cheaper to buy somewhere else rather than where he is from or it may be that whatever he has done means that he cannot live locally to where he is from anymore.

Either way, if he has no physical disabilities then it will more than likely be mental health related and to ensure that he causes no risk to others.

And I would also be really curious about this if it happened on my street - most people would be.

Wow this would be such a hard job

He's "healthy and able"? So doesnt need carers is that what you mean 🙄

Sounds a bit extreme for 1 man,he could live in sheltered housing, no way a place would be bought by a health authority, have extensive work for 1 man!

Find it crazy that the state would incur these costs for 1 person. House, reno + multiple staff... will cost several millions over a lifetime! I always assumed people that needed this intense care would be in some kind of secure hospital.

Hearing about these houses mentioned on the thread with one person and 4-5 nhs carers I’m wondering how it’s decided that a person needs and gets this super expensive package while so many others struggle to get minimal help or care and others are living in bigger group residential care settings. What would make someone able to get such an extraordinarily attentive and expensive set up? Genuinely curious! (Also curious about OPs neighbours on her behalf! I’d definitely be wanting to know if it were me and I don’t consider myself particularly nosey!)

Yes, also wondering this!

No not at all, what I was saying is that he is physically able bodied and young , which made it more of a mystery as to the carers.
No need for the eye roll,I've clearly explained

This would also be my guess. In terms of it being bought by an NHS trust far away, sometimes commissioners struggle to find a care provider locally who are equipped to handle the patient - housing costs can also be a factor if the house has been purchased specifically because I think the 'rent' often has to be under a benefit threshold? But also if it's post discharge care eg section 117 aftercare, I think it has to be funded by the area where the person is discharged, but that isn't necessarily the best area for them to be in e.g. if it's not where they're from/where their family is. Ideally people will be located close to their support network but that doesn't always happen.