What is going on in this house?

[Neighbourmystery]

Right, this is going to sound nosy but here goes...
A house in a street I know was owned by an old lady with no family. When she died, her house stood empty for nearly a year then it started having work done. It's been bought by a health service far away from he town we live in (think I live in Liverpool and NHS Devon and Cornwall bought it) BTW these are not the real locations. So, they do lots of renovations, including putting a much higher fence up which has a key code entry they also put frosted film on every window. There's a new build extension on the side with coded keypads too. This is where 2 carers are. There are 4 carers altogether, 2 at a time and then a swap. There is one man who lives there . He is in his 30s , able bodied can move well etc I've seen him once or twice in the garden in a whole year. Another twice I saw a darkened van come to get him. He was only gone for an hour or so then back.
I cannot imagine the scenario this might be. I'm not curtain twitching and permanently watching but I am fascinated.

I think it’s a big jump to assume he’s healthy. He might be healthy as far as you can see.

Halfway house, rehab, disabilities… any number of things, really.

I’d be interested in this too OP! It’s human nature

Our neighbour hasn't been like this luckily. I've only seen him the handful of times and all is quiet.

I think he probably has health needs. I’m guessing autistic with high support needs. You could be a nice neighbour and knock on the door and introduce yourself and welcome him to the neighbourhood. Give him details of the street/area FB group. Tell him you hope he’s settling in.

Do you know that the NHS actually bought it, rather than just working there?

So he could physically appear normal but gave high care needs like the poorly supervised man who threw a child into a crocodile enclosure.

Are you SURE not a relative? I mean, he could be a nephew three times removed and the only living relative of the old lady?

I'm just straining to see how a trust could justify this cost internally when the NHS is (or should be) all about the allocation of sparse resources. This has to be a better solution than all other alternatives. So either the cost is low (house and renovations are gifted, costs of employees is contributed towards?), or this is cheaper than every other option in the original trust.

I agree with you OP, I'd be contorting myself into pretzels trying to figure all this out. I'd probably just go out and have a chat with one of the carers one day, tbh...

There will have been planning permission granted so those that responded to the planning notices will have been informed.

Definitely definitely not a relative. I'm pretty sure it was bought by the NHS or maybe given to them? The person had no living relative and no will. The house was not up for sale. It was empty for a while. Then next thing, lots of work vans etc but also people with nhs lanyards on etc. Then now clinical carers

I dont know whether to be comforted or incredulous that people are surprised at the possiblity of this

This is not at all unusual, either in adult social care or NHS care

How do you think adults with special needs are now supported since all the much criticised 'institutions' closed down? Many are living poor quality lives in the community alone, some are supported like this, monitored, supervised, restricted.

When I say clinical, I mean that the people who came when the renovations were happening were nhs but in office clothes

My brother in law works in a place like this , round the clock carers for a client that is a risk re sexual offences - they do leave the house in his case but always with a 1-2-1

I confess, I'm surprised. This seems like A LOT of money to spend on one person. (No skin off my nose, I'm not a British tax/NI-payer, just used to be one).

I guess I thought that the NHS would want to benefit from economies of scale, so non-individualised options. Residential care homes, facilities, wings of hospitals, even larger houses with more staff but more patients.

4+ staff for 1 patients seems extremely expensive to me. It can surely only be justified because there's no cheaper option?

But it doesn’t mean they commute. They could be from your area but employed by that Trust for this one person

Yes as I was typing it I did think actually maybe that would make more sense

Its fairly common, its usually adult social care, unusual for it to be NHS but there may be some joint commissioning going on

Its very common in childrens social care.

Usually these service users are subject to a DOLs

Care homes of old closed down. People wanted care in the community. This is the outcome.

Much better also for this to be directly arranged by the NHS rather than tendered out to a provider, it would cost even more then.

Oh I would find this interesting too.

You have seen an able bodied person, but is it possible there is someone else living there too?

*2 carers per shift that should say

I don’t. Nor do I wish I had so little curiosity.

I would’ve already gone to talk to the carers to get the low down.

Definitely just one

I have placed people in similar set ups. Most likely CHC funded supported living. Why this person receives this support or their diagnosis is honestly nothing to do with you. Clearly they are not causing you any issues. Get a hobby and move on

The high fence, keypad entry, frosted windows and darkened van have suggested privacy is a high priority so I won't ask the carers

have you checked planning permission applications?

Good lord again no need for the nastiness.
I haven't suggested they owe me an explanation. Or that it is my business. I am CHATTING on a CHAT site about something unusual.

You’ll just discuss it on here 🤓