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What is going on in this house?

342 replies

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 18:14

Right, this is going to sound nosy but here goes...
A house in a street I know was owned by an old lady with no family. When she died, her house stood empty for nearly a year then it started having work done. It's been bought by a health service far away from he town we live in (think I live in Liverpool and NHS Devon and Cornwall bought it) BTW these are not the real locations. So, they do lots of renovations, including putting a much higher fence up which has a key code entry they also put frosted film on every window. There's a new build extension on the side with coded keypads too. This is where 2 carers are. There are 4 carers altogether, 2 at a time and then a swap. There is one man who lives there . He is in his 30s , able bodied can move well etc I've seen him once or twice in the garden in a whole year. Another twice I saw a darkened van come to get him. He was only gone for an hour or so then back.
I cannot imagine the scenario this might be. I'm not curtain twitching and permanently watching but I am fascinated.

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Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:33

heizfiftyseven · Yesterday 19:29

Is it a sort of "half-way house" for people newly released from psychiatric units?

If you want to find out, you'll need binoculars (preferably night-vision type) and a comfy chair to sit on while you watch.

Please keep us posted.

🤣 I'll try my best

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SallyD00lally · Yesterday 19:34

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:32

Because privacy and security are clearly important to them so I don't want to compromise that.

Oh don't be daft.

It's a building on a public road, not MI5.

And if privacy and security are so important, how on earth are you going to get a definite answer out of Mumsnet??

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:35

SallyD00lally · Yesterday 19:34

Oh don't be daft.

It's a building on a public road, not MI5.

And if privacy and security are so important, how on earth are you going to get a definite answer out of Mumsnet??

Yep you're right, totally, that's me told, thanks.

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Bookworm20 · Yesterday 19:37

The NHS lanyards from miles away are the thing that is throwing me. Aside from the property windows and security etc. If its assisted living, why have nhs staff from a trust hundreds of miles away?

I'd be curious too OP. Its hardly an everyday thing is it, I think most people would be curious about it if something like that popped up on their street.

heizfiftyseven · Yesterday 19:37

TeenLifeMum · Yesterday 18:22

Seriously, if this was happening in anyone’s street you’d be curious! I’ve no idea op but I’d be interested. We once lived near a 3 bed semi that was turned into a halfway house for male prisoners upon release. One of the newly released criminals tried to stab my 19 yo neighbour. We’d had no issues in the three years before that and didn’t even know it existed.

😮

Autumngirl5 · Yesterday 19:39

SallyD00lally · Yesterday 19:19

Because you keep banging on about him being 'healthy and able bodied', when you know that people will mental health issues can need carers too.

That and the fact that assuming you aren't non verbal, you can quite simply ask a carer what the building is being used for nowadays 🤷‍♂️

Why do you have to be so rude to the OP? Are you like this in real life? You must know that t for confidentiality the carers would most likely not be able to tell her.
I would be curious too if this happened on my street.

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:39

Bookworm20 · Yesterday 19:37

The NHS lanyards from miles away are the thing that is throwing me. Aside from the property windows and security etc. If its assisted living, why have nhs staff from a trust hundreds of miles away?

I'd be curious too OP. Its hardly an everyday thing is it, I think most people would be curious about it if something like that popped up on their street.

Yeah that is curious I think.

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SallyD00lally · Yesterday 19:41

Autumngirl5 · Yesterday 19:39

Why do you have to be so rude to the OP? Are you like this in real life? You must know that t for confidentiality the carers would most likely not be able to tell her.
I would be curious too if this happened on my street.

Of course they can tell her what the building is being used for.

And there's nothing rude about pointing out that the OP is being ridiculous to claim she knows this man is able bodied and healthy.

She knows nothing of the sort.

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:44

SallyD00lally · Yesterday 19:41

Of course they can tell her what the building is being used for.

And there's nothing rude about pointing out that the OP is being ridiculous to claim she knows this man is able bodied and healthy.

She knows nothing of the sort.

It was really clear what I meant from the context about the able bodied and healthy comment .
If you're continuing to tell me off about the fact that you can't see mental health or other health complaints, consider me told.

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Gwenna · Yesterday 19:44

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 18:23

I am not trying to find out in real life. To be clear, I'm just interested. He's very healthy and able so I was just interested about the always 2 carers seperate living quarters and all the security etc

Could be mental health and/or a teenager under 18 in supported living - they will need carers going in at the very least because they’re minors.

heizfiftyseven · Yesterday 19:45

NoodleHorses · Yesterday 19:21

Are you in Wolferton and live by the Andrew formerly known as as Prince?

😆

familyissues12345 · Yesterday 19:46

Our local addiction services is covered by an NHS service in a totally different area of the country to us - to possibly explain the normality of the NHS difference

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:48

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 18:23

I am not trying to find out in real life. To be clear, I'm just interested. He's very healthy and able so I was just interested about the always 2 carers seperate living quarters and all the security etc

Its clearly supported living, he is obviously physically ok but perhaps has LD or MH or neurological conditions which means he needs looking after or something.

Gwenna · Yesterday 19:49

Bookworm20 · Yesterday 19:37

The NHS lanyards from miles away are the thing that is throwing me. Aside from the property windows and security etc. If its assisted living, why have nhs staff from a trust hundreds of miles away?

I'd be curious too OP. Its hardly an everyday thing is it, I think most people would be curious about it if something like that popped up on their street.

Sometimes it’s better for some peoples’ needs to be away from areas and people they’re used to. Or it’s witness protection as someone else has said.

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:51

Bookworm20 · Yesterday 19:37

The NHS lanyards from miles away are the thing that is throwing me. Aside from the property windows and security etc. If its assisted living, why have nhs staff from a trust hundreds of miles away?

I'd be curious too OP. Its hardly an everyday thing is it, I think most people would be curious about it if something like that popped up on their street.

Sometimes care packages have to come up with creative ways of meeting need, there may be no obvious specialist placement for him and so the trust has commissioned the purchase of a property which can provide a bespoke arrangement for him, perhaps property is cheaper where OP is, than where the NHS trust originates. Perhaps the patient needs to be in OPs area for some complicated reason even though his care packages is provided by the NHS trust from miles away.

Mykneesareshot · Yesterday 19:52

Christ, who's paying for that (and the bungalow plus adjustments) for one person?

heizfiftyseven · Yesterday 19:52

Mykneesareshot · Yesterday 19:52

Christ, who's paying for that (and the bungalow plus adjustments) for one person?

My thoughts entirely....

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:53

The cheaper house prices in my area compared to the nhs trust would make sense

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PinkyFlamingo · Yesterday 19:55

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:24

OK so I randomly started a thread pretending to be nosy about this house. Odd, but ok.

No I don't think that's why you randomly started this thread at all ...NIMBY. 🙄

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:55

Pileoftrash · Yesterday 19:05

Find it crazy that the state would incur these costs for 1 person. House, reno + multiple staff... will cost several millions over a lifetime! I always assumed people that needed this intense care would be in some kind of secure hospital.

Which is much more expensive and in which you need different types orders. A hospital would require someone to need hospital care/treatable condition. This person clearly doesnt need that.

likelysuspect · Yesterday 19:56

I dont know what sort of witness protection people envisage needing NHS staff for!!!

Cacka · Yesterday 19:57

TheEasterBunny3 · Yesterday 18:57

Its possible that he has criminal conviction for something serious & also has a serious mental health condition which means he cant be left alone as he's too much of a risk to others so he needs to be monitored 24/7 for life. If he has served his sentence, is not able to be sectioned but still isnt safe to live freely amongst the general public, his local NHS trust will have the responsibility for keeping him safe and secure. It was probably cheaper to buy somewhere else rather than where he is from or it may be that whatever he has done means that he cannot live locally to where he is from anymore.

Either way, if he has no physical disabilities then it will more than likely be mental health related and to ensure that he causes no risk to others.

And I would also be really curious about this if it happened on my street - most people would be.

Yes this is it. I have a house on my street which is also owned by a care company and houses vulnerable young offenders. There are always 2-4 carers there, and every light in the house stays on 24 hours a day. This one is used for teenage boys who can’t be in YOIs due to being a danger to themselves and others due to complex needs (learning / MH difficulties or a combination). I expect yours is similar, OP.

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 19:58

PinkyFlamingo · Yesterday 19:55

No I don't think that's why you randomly started this thread at all ...NIMBY. 🙄

You need to be careful with all this eye rolling you'll strain your orbital muscles.
I hate to say I didn't know what NIMBY meant until I googled.
Again, you made a massive leap of assumption here. The irony is, people might be NIMBY about me if they knew my heritage and situation

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Dollymylove · Yesterday 20:00

I would suggest that from the information that OP has provided, the neighbours have a right to know who is living in their midst.

Neighbourmystery · Yesterday 20:00

Dollymylove · Yesterday 20:00

I would suggest that from the information that OP has provided, the neighbours have a right to know who is living in their midst.

I don't feel like we have a right to know , I'm just being nosy!

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