Bring back the death penalty in this case

[ThisWiseRobin]

AIBU to wish for the death penalty. How a mother can kill her baby with a hairdryer.
I read this to my husband who asked me to stop and was crying.
I'm Christian and am taught that all but one sin is forgivable.
BUT Our Lord also said that to harm one little one , you are better to have a millstone tied around your neck and be thrown into the sea.
While some interpretations claim it means misleading them, I think it's much more than this.
Today I feel bereft of love for the human race.
Of course this monster will claim Domestic violence, drugs , mental health etc.
I hope, as there is no death penalty, that she spends the rest of her life begging to die.
Sorry right now, all I can say is "Father forgive them. For they know not what they do".....because right now I Can't.

I don’t think these threads are remotely about the death penalty.

I think there are some sick fucks on mn who positively relish the idea of being able to write in graphic details about the harm that is done to tiny children.

Every time there is a child murder or serious abuse case the threads appear, with people writing about the horrific things that are done to said child, and then to other children who have been killed recently etc etc.

I read the first page of the thread and there were several references to child killings with details of what was done to them.

Do some of the people here get some kind of kick out of being able to relive that kind of harm done to small children? Because that’s what it looks like.

WRT the death penalty, two wrongs don’t make a right. That is all.

With regards to the rest, enough!!!!! people don’t need to read about it, and nobody should be wanting to write out the details of horrendous child killings on a public platform.

So maybe ask yourselves why some people are so intent on doing so.

Preston was deliberately abused, and for sexual purposes. A quick read on this case suggests it wasn't deliberate abuse, so the outcome is the same, but intent is not.

because in my analysis it proves how inhumane some humans are to other humans sometimes the only suitable punishment is the death penalty, thats why they do it

The death penalty isn't going to be reinstated and for many a good reason.
A pp mentioned Comedian Mark Thomas take on the death penalty vv funny and apt.

The problem is, there is often a total inability to recognise this fact, so the presumption is that people committing heinous acts are invariably "monsters", or "evil", and that's nothing more than a convenient distraction from the fact that they are human, and human beings sometimes do terrible things under certain circumstances. There is no such thing as evil, just unwell, aberrant, and atypical human beings.

I don't think this is true. The "certain circumstances" for Ian Huntley, for example, were probably just that he was sexually attracted to the ten-year-old girls who walked past his house, so he lured them in, assaulted them, and then killed them so they couldn't go to the police. Sounds pretty evil to me.

The opening poster calls themselves a christian yet chooses to ignore both a commandment (that you shouldn't kill) and scriptures. Romans 12:19 ".... Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord".

As a life long atheist (but brought up in a country that is nominally Christian) the hypocrisy is breathtaking, but not unexpected.

Absolutely this.

From what has come out about this story so far I really don’t understand what happened . It’s absolutely horrendous and disgusting and I feel so sorry for that poor little baby . But I don’t know enough about it to comment if the death penalty would be warranted. I find it weird that someone who claims to be Christian would be advocating for the death penalty . I’m not a Christian but thought it was all about forgiveness and stuff like that. Excuse my ignorance if this isn’t true

Psalm 137 is about what the Babylonians did. It’s not a commandment, silly. Try reading the book.

You really don't understand that psalm at all.

Is this not the case where the baby was left out in the cold while the parent drank/took drugs/whatever and was frozen, so mother misguidedly tried to warm her with a hairdryer? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

I had totally forgotten about Mark Thomas - I remember him from Mary Whitehouse - he was so incisive!

That's what I read too.

The irony. Being up in arms about a murderer while wanting the state to carry out murder on your behalf...

The woman has been convicted of culpable homicide, I think not murder. So even if Scotland had the death penalty, she would still get prison. People think we should have the death penalty, so the Southport killer would be executed. He was under 18 so he would not have been eligible.

People are fully entitled to describe behavior and people as evil, we all understand what it means. Why do you feel the need to police the language of others, especially when people are just clearly showing their upset at appaling crimes?

How is sexually abusing a baby not deliberate abuse?

Where was the father? Missing as usual.

You’ve misread. By ‘this case’, @EilonwyWithRedGoldHair means the case that is the subject of this thread not the case where Preston died.

Exactly. I can't ant abide these righteous people who think they're morally superior because of an outdated book written 2000 yrs ago that has some incredibly dubious things in it. People who believe it word for word are brainwashed nutters. I actually believe in God/higher power just not religion which is divisive and the cause of most wars.

Yes, where there’s irrefutable evidence they should be put to death, some might say it’s the easier option than a lifetime of daytime tv and prison dinners. Or where guards have no control and prisoners die by the hands of other prisoners.
Why keep them alive? Venables for one, I can think of better uses.

We do worse to animals for nothing.

Preston was sexually abused.

The baby killed by neglect, the case where the OP wants the death penalty for the mother wasn't, seemingly was not deliberate abuse.

The problem with the concept of evil is that it is a concept. It does not exist. It's a construct to be something the opposite of the "good God". So for an atheist like me, there is no God and therefore no evil. Because the supernatural does not exist.

My feeling is that using terms such as "evil" or "demonic", are really letting society off the hook. To say someone is "evil" is implying they are controlled by a non existent anti God entity. But it might be something in society that caused a person to be that way.

I come from a country that has the death penalty so I’m for it in certain cases - I know of a personal case where the death penalty was given as well. The guy admitted he did it - and was quite proud of it. So irrefutable evidence.

Thats an awful crime but so is allowing the state to murder people.
The death penalty is disgusting and a pointless waste of time and money.