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Aibu thinking Scots shouldn't be wanting Argentina to win against England?

709 replies

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 18:49

It's getting beyond banter now imo.

I know plenty of Scots agree with me.

I'm half Scottish (dad) so always support both. In the past I'd probably want Scotland to win if it was them against England to be honest. Although now because of the Argentina support I'm going off supporting Scotland.

I desperately want England to win this one more than against any other team.

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AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 20:11

Shouting at a TV is irrelevant
It's a game
I don't hate English people in my younger days I frequented English NSoul niters met loads of great people and likewise when they came North.

I think it's the pundits inane blether that pisses off a lot Scots.

AgentJohnson · 13/07/2026 20:16

Don’t care!!! I don’t get bent out of shape on who others, do or don’t support. I support Arsenal there is absolutely no way I’d support Man U or C, Spurs etc if they were playing in Europe. So why would I care if Scots support the opposition, all the sweeter when England win.

In the words of Elmo ‘It’s not a thing’, just to be clear.

https://youtube.com/shorts/o-194omAbFI?is=rGtaH-IXsWUbZx-n

UniquePinkSwan · 13/07/2026 20:19

doyoueverstopandthink · 13/07/2026 19:57

34 Scottish people were killed in the falklands, that’s who they’re cheering on. Despicable

Big difference between a war and a football game…

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 20:22

Arlanymor · 13/07/2026 19:51

How do you fuck porridge? We only fuck sheep round my way obviously...

I know. My mind went all over 🤯

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Hollowvoice · 13/07/2026 20:22

Overworkedandknackered · 13/07/2026 19:43

Surely if your dad is Scottish then you know how much they hate the English 🤣 I can remember going to visit my cousins when I was younger and the other kids down their street lining up to tell me and my brother how much they hate English people, it’s a national hobby 🤣🙄 I always think it must really grate on them how little time English people spend thinking about Scotland at all other than everyone with a distant relative with Mc surname claiming they’ve got Scottish ancestry!

Yeah of course all Scots hate all English.
I'm Scottish, have lived in England longer than I did in Scotland and have an English DH.
Shockingly (to some) I hope England win

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 20:24

Hollowvoice · 13/07/2026 20:22

Yeah of course all Scots hate all English.
I'm Scottish, have lived in England longer than I did in Scotland and have an English DH.
Shockingly (to some) I hope England win

My dad married an English woman. He rarely went back up. I'm more patriotic about Scotland than him tbh. Or was.

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BerryTwister · 13/07/2026 20:25

In response to the “anyone but England” approach that Scots seem to take, I’ve adopted an “anyone but Scotland” view. The best part of these tournaments is when Scotland get knocked out, and they really did it in style this time!

I don’t know how Scottish fans have got a reputation for being jolly and no trouble. I watched a Celtic match (a friendly) in Glasgow once and it was like a war zone afterwards. Hundreds of police, struggling to keep thousands of angry drunk Scottish fans under control. For a friendly!!

Stygimoloch · 13/07/2026 20:26

Jealousy out in force again I see 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 20:26

The type of Scots that yak about hating English people generally don't know any and a lot of them don't even like themselves.

stonkytonk11 · 13/07/2026 20:28

Waitingfordoggo · 13/07/2026 20:07

I’m English and would defo support Wales against someone else (except England!) I love Wales and I like to support an underdog. Without wishing to be rude, the Welsh team would be the underdog against most teams, I’d imagine.

Scotland…not sure, might support their opponents tbh. 😂

And that’s absolutely and completely fine! Nobody in Scotland would mind at all (or care) who gives their support. Because people are allowed to support who they want!

stonkytonk11 · 13/07/2026 20:29

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 20:26

The type of Scots that yak about hating English people generally don't know any and a lot of them don't even like themselves.

Nobody has mentioned hating English people - it’s not about that at all.

stonkytonk11 · 13/07/2026 20:32

BerryTwister · 13/07/2026 20:25

In response to the “anyone but England” approach that Scots seem to take, I’ve adopted an “anyone but Scotland” view. The best part of these tournaments is when Scotland get knocked out, and they really did it in style this time!

I don’t know how Scottish fans have got a reputation for being jolly and no trouble. I watched a Celtic match (a friendly) in Glasgow once and it was like a war zone afterwards. Hundreds of police, struggling to keep thousands of angry drunk Scottish fans under control. For a friendly!!

Also fine! It really doesn’t wind us up one bit whether we are supported by other countries at all - we really don’t mind because it’s football, it’s meant to be competitive and there’s meant to be rivalry. Honestly, don’t take it all so seriously just enjoy the football and support your team 👍

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 20:36

stonkytonk11 · 13/07/2026 20:29

Nobody has mentioned hating English people - it’s not about that at all.

They exist it can be football it can be any bloody thing.

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 20:43

AgentJohnson · 13/07/2026 20:16

Don’t care!!! I don’t get bent out of shape on who others, do or don’t support. I support Arsenal there is absolutely no way I’d support Man U or C, Spurs etc if they were playing in Europe. So why would I care if Scots support the opposition, all the sweeter when England win.

In the words of Elmo ‘It’s not a thing’, just to be clear.

https://youtube.com/shorts/o-194omAbFI?is=rGtaH-IXsWUbZx-n

And here's me thinking gooners and the yids were bosom buddies🎏

MissFancyDay · 13/07/2026 20:53

Well I kind of get the "anyone but England" thing, even though I think it's pathetic.

But surely people draw the line at supporting the most racist team in football. Unless you're Argentinian of course then I suppose you don't care.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/07/2026 20:57

It’s football. It doesn’t matter who anyone supports, as it’s just a game.

Yes I like football, I support England as well as another country I have heritage from (not in the World Cup though). But if I wanted to supper Egypt or Norway or whoever I could!

If it was a war against Norway or whoever (to pick and unlikely one) I would obviously be all for the country I live in and was born in, the Uk! Which would included England and Scotland, to go back to the question you’re asking.

Thank goodness football doesn’t matter and it’s just a game with all its little quirks, like Uk nations competing separately.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/07/2026 20:58

I don’t really like us playing Argentina as it goes because it makes me think about Margaret Thatcher and I’d rather not be reminded of her!

CamilleBeauchamp · 13/07/2026 21:10

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/07/2026 20:58

I don’t really like us playing Argentina as it goes because it makes me think about Margaret Thatcher and I’d rather not be reminded of her!

Oh, thanks, that's me sorted for nightmares now...

😱

backformoreofthesame · 13/07/2026 21:12

But saying you must support England is just the other side of an “anyone but England “ coin

Aiming4Optimistic · 13/07/2026 21:13

The Argentinians still haven't given up their spurious claim to the Falkland Islands - British people died during that unnecessary conflict. Anyone who supports their team should be ashamed of themselves. You don't have to support England but you shouldn't support Argentina.

FunkyFringe · 13/07/2026 21:15

Gettoachiro · 13/07/2026 18:53

Anybody who cheers on the Argies who isn't Argentine is a complete numpty. If you want England to lose, wait for the final - it'd hurt more 😕😵

Stupid comment. There’s a strong Welsh community in Patagonia so loads of Welshmen and Welshwomen support Argentina and not just because they’re playing England.

FWC2026 · 13/07/2026 21:20

Noshadowsinthedarkness · 13/07/2026 18:57

I mean there’s some fairly strong history behind why the Welsh and Scottish support anyone except England….

I’m indifferent but I can’t imagine many English supporting Wales or Scotland rather than the opponent either.

I'd support Scotland or Wales against anyone other than England or New Zealand in any sport.

But then I consider them as part of 'us'. Clearly some Scotts feel very different and if that's how they want to be that's up to them.

pinkdyno · 13/07/2026 21:21

Scottish here.

would support England over Argentina.

however, what I would hope for more than anything, is a clear, obvious win by skill.

I didn’t watch the quarter final and woke early to see the results. So bloody disappointing. A dodgy goal. A disallowed goal. A manager saying the team need to do better.

At this level, they do. There should be no controversy, that’s what is annoying. Same with rugby.

FWC2026 · 13/07/2026 21:21

backformoreofthesame · 13/07/2026 21:12

But saying you must support England is just the other side of an “anyone but England “ coin

No, it's not. It's entirely different.🙄🙄

JHound · 13/07/2026 21:24

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 18:49

It's getting beyond banter now imo.

I know plenty of Scots agree with me.

I'm half Scottish (dad) so always support both. In the past I'd probably want Scotland to win if it was them against England to be honest. Although now because of the Argentina support I'm going off supporting Scotland.

I desperately want England to win this one more than against any other team.

It is a bit pathetic but I don’t care that much about some Scottish people being ABE.

Even if England were not playing I would still want Argentina to lose.