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To ask why there are no riots?

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Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:29

Where are the rioters today? If the roles were reversed and a man of colour was going out and terrorising white people it would be the number one story on the BBC and Herr Farage would be calling for action on the streets. Right now it's the sixth story on the BBC.

Similarly, with the atrocious and heartbreaking case of the baby who was abused and murdered. If the perpetrators hadn't been white there would have been bedlam on the streets by 'degenerate thugs concerned citizens'. The issue is clearly men, but rabid racists, the media and the malign agitators who whip them up into a frenzy never seem to be outraged when it's one of their own.

BBC News - Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

Topless man with knife with face blurred

Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh

Two people were injured close to a mosque and a man was later seen battering the door of a pizzeria as members of the public run away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

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SomeGarlic · 21/06/2026 05:33

It's going to be really hot this week. There will be riots.

Whether they'll be focused on the issues you deem riot-worthy is another matter.

TigTails · 21/06/2026 05:33

Imagine that headline said anti-Jewish instead of anti-Muslim…

PollyBell · 21/06/2026 05:37

So we are to be disappointed when epople are not rioting? Really?

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:43

PollyBell · 21/06/2026 05:37

So we are to be disappointed when epople are not rioting? Really?

No I'm very grateful. My point is the hypocrisy of those who riot and those who stir them up. It's racism pure and simple.

Why is it breaking headline news when a person of colour person does it, but a minor non story when it's a white person? People talk about two tier policing, what we have is two tier reporting! We heard all about Henry Novak, but close to zero about the Saudi student in Cambridge murdered by a coked up white man.

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EamonnFyre · 21/06/2026 05:52

It’s because intelligent people don’t riot.

What I mean is the people who want to sew division like to give it large and do the grand kicking-off gesture.

This story doesn’t fit their narrative.

The people who find this as repulsive as any other racist incident - and worse, as it’s against a minority - aren’t the people who get their shirts off and get out in the street to kick off.

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:52

The hatred, division and racism we're seeing is being stoked by the elite from well known figures like Musk to much shadowier figures like Smith who owns 55 Tufton Street. They want us to hate one another, they're especially egging on the working and under classes in the UK, to take the heat of off them. If you believe immigrants and people of colour are the source of all your problems you're far less likely to turn on the dozen men who own half the world's wealth and are robbing every single one of us while destroying the planet and our democracies. The media frenzy and far right agitators which whip up these riots and stoke the division that fuel it are all to quiet when the stories don't fit their narrative of the immigrant boogeyman.

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Ifailed · 21/06/2026 05:57

It's not been prominently reported by the right-wing press because it doesn't fit their narrative that the country is over-run by violent immigrants.

Icanseeasquirrel · 21/06/2026 05:58

People don’t riot based on what you might think logical though. They riot when they are organised and incited into it or where the circumstances lead to a situation that spills out of hand.
Mostly they are a march that gets out of hand. If the usual people decide to hold a march about this you might still get your riot. Often populated by people who will go to any place they can attack police or loot.
If you’re trying to draw a parallel with the Henry Nowak case those riots weren’t about a single brown person attacking a single white person. They were about policing priorities.

Icanseeasquirrel · 21/06/2026 06:00

I do agree with you though that the media stoke division and external actors play a part.

minnymoobear · 21/06/2026 06:09

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:43

No I'm very grateful. My point is the hypocrisy of those who riot and those who stir them up. It's racism pure and simple.

Why is it breaking headline news when a person of colour person does it, but a minor non story when it's a white person? People talk about two tier policing, what we have is two tier reporting! We heard all about Henry Novak, but close to zero about the Saudi student in Cambridge murdered by a coked up white man.

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And why does the headline not say white man or mention his religion. If he was the victim, it would absolutely mention his colour and religion

typical biased bbc

dizzydizzydizzy · 21/06/2026 06:17

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:43

No I'm very grateful. My point is the hypocrisy of those who riot and those who stir them up. It's racism pure and simple.

Why is it breaking headline news when a person of colour person does it, but a minor non story when it's a white person? People talk about two tier policing, what we have is two tier reporting! We heard all about Henry Novak, but close to zero about the Saudi student in Cambridge murdered by a coked up white man.

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Totally agree!

Kindling1970 · 21/06/2026 06:27

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:52

The hatred, division and racism we're seeing is being stoked by the elite from well known figures like Musk to much shadowier figures like Smith who owns 55 Tufton Street. They want us to hate one another, they're especially egging on the working and under classes in the UK, to take the heat of off them. If you believe immigrants and people of colour are the source of all your problems you're far less likely to turn on the dozen men who own half the world's wealth and are robbing every single one of us while destroying the planet and our democracies. The media frenzy and far right agitators which whip up these riots and stoke the division that fuel it are all to quiet when the stories don't fit their narrative of the immigrant boogeyman.

Fantastic summary

HelpMeGetThrough · 21/06/2026 07:20

The rioters are in the States trying to get tickets to a match or two.

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 08:13

HelpMeGetThrough · 21/06/2026 07:20

The rioters are in the States trying to get tickets to a match or two.

Potentially. I suspect that the man who did this is the exact same type of thug who'd be out rioting. If brown and black people were doing this, we'd be asking who radicalised them. A white person does it and the threat is ignored. Furthermore, the government will probably condemn it with a post on the very platform that is doing the radicalising.

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Newrumpus · 21/06/2026 08:49

@Firetreev Herr Farage?

How old are you? You sound like a character from ‘Allo, ‘Allo!’

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 08:53

Newrumpus · 21/06/2026 08:49

@Firetreev Herr Farage?

How old are you? You sound like a character from ‘Allo, ‘Allo!’

Too young to have ever seen Allo Allo. I personally think it's very apt. His tactics are straight out of the Nazi playbook and it's no secret that he was a fan of the Hitler Youth as a teenager.

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Newrumpus · 21/06/2026 08:58

i see. And all Germans are Nazis are they?

alwaysdream · 21/06/2026 09:01

You're 100% right OP. White man attacks people on the streets - not a peep out of Herr Farage, Robinson and their ilk. White men tragically abuse and kill a child - silence from all of them.

Just imagine if any one of the above perpetrators was non white, Muslim or some form of immigrant .... the riots don't even bear thinking about. Farage would be all over it. TR would be whipping up a frenzy.

How rioters can't see this is beyond me.

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 09:03

Newrumpus · 21/06/2026 08:58

i see. And all Germans are Nazis are they?

Definitely not! But it's well documented that Farage was a fan of them.

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Firetreev · 21/06/2026 09:06

alwaysdream · 21/06/2026 09:01

You're 100% right OP. White man attacks people on the streets - not a peep out of Herr Farage, Robinson and their ilk. White men tragically abuse and kill a child - silence from all of them.

Just imagine if any one of the above perpetrators was non white, Muslim or some form of immigrant .... the riots don't even bear thinking about. Farage would be all over it. TR would be whipping up a frenzy.

How rioters can't see this is beyond me.

They and their supporters see it, but they don't care. They're racist and they know it. They always come out with the well trotted out line of 'we have our own bad men, we don't need any foreign ones'. What we need is no bad men full stop. One can only dream.

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alwaysdream · 21/06/2026 09:09

Yes Farage was a bully at Dulwich College and suspended for expressing Nazi rhetoric.

"Oh never mind," chant Refirm voters. He's a "man of the people" now.

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 09:09

Newrumpus · 21/06/2026 08:58

i see. And all Germans are Nazis are they?

You seem to be more exercised by me referring to Farage as Herr, which many people have done before, than the fact that Farage has a history of Nazi sympathies. Your priorities are in entirely the wrong place. What I wrote may be crass, but being a Nazi sympathiser is far, far worse!

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alwaysdream · 21/06/2026 09:12

People will say, "Oh Farage was only young when he identified with Nazi rhetoric."

Well how many Nazi sympathisers are your teens at school with? I'm guessing zero.

HowMuchMoreIsThere · 21/06/2026 09:17

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:43

No I'm very grateful. My point is the hypocrisy of those who riot and those who stir them up. It's racism pure and simple.

Why is it breaking headline news when a person of colour person does it, but a minor non story when it's a white person? People talk about two tier policing, what we have is two tier reporting! We heard all about Henry Novak, but close to zero about the Saudi student in Cambridge murdered by a coked up white man.

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Just in case you are genuinely confused rather than being deliberately disingenuous, the reason for the coverage and outrage over Henry Nowak’s death was because of the actions of the police who left him to bleed to death in handcuffs because they believed his murderer when he told them Henry had racially abused him.

Livelovebehappy · 21/06/2026 09:47

Firetreev · 21/06/2026 05:43

No I'm very grateful. My point is the hypocrisy of those who riot and those who stir them up. It's racism pure and simple.

Why is it breaking headline news when a person of colour person does it, but a minor non story when it's a white person? People talk about two tier policing, what we have is two tier reporting! We heard all about Henry Novak, but close to zero about the Saudi student in Cambridge murdered by a coked up white man.

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But most people don’t riot? I was appalled about the situation regarding Henry Nowak, and absolutely agreed with the narrative that there was two tier policing in that particular situation. But didn’t riot. Most people who riot aren’t doing it because of one specific incident. It’s usually just because they’re unhappy about a multitude of stuff. You’re talking as if rioting is a conscious decision by the masses. It isn’t.