To ask why there are no riots?

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Where are the rioters today? If the roles were reversed and a man of colour was going out and terrorising white people it would be the number one story on the BBC and Herr Farage would be calling for action on the streets. Right now it's the sixth story on the BBC.

Similarly, with the atrocious and heartbreaking case of the baby who was abused and murdered. If the perpetrators hadn't been white there would have been bedlam on the streets by 'degenerate thugs concerned citizens'. The issue is clearly men, but rabid racists, the media and the malign agitators who whip them up into a frenzy never seem to be outraged when it's one of their own.

BBC News - Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

I do wonder about the next few weeks if we have another heatwave - big crowds concentrated together for football in the evenings, drinking lots, St George's flags everywhere...

It is a relief there are no riots and it is very obvious why. For me it's the double standards in the media and government that upsets me the most. A guy with a knife roaming around Edinburgh trying to stab Muslim people. Starting his violent campaign outside a mosque. Where is the government outcry in how they are going to protect the Muslim community against abuse? Promises of increase in police security to protect the community? Where's the media outcry on this anti Muslim hate? Nothing but tumble weed. Their silence makes their message loud and clear

There needs to be early pub closures or something to prevent excessive alcohol consumption on Friday and Saturday.

HJust in case you’re really this disingenuous, the police were called by a family member saying that their brother was experiencing a racist attack and that’s the info police had, and it was a dark night.

There was no police conspiracy by white police officers to be racist to a white man.

The point of the OPs comments, as I interpret it, is that they are pointing out the total hypocrisy and difference in response to this event and others where the targets have been different.
The lack of response or concern to this attack has been palpable.
It's worrying and saddening. Islamophobia has become mainstream and acceptable to many.

Oh, most of them can see it alright. They wilfully ignore it and try to pretend there is a police conspiracy to white people, when actually the police have been found to be institutionally racist to black people and other minorities.

Political racism is one of the biggest problems we have today. Thugs being stirred up by grifting righ wingers. A complacent media enabling it.

The media is avoiding telling us the race of perpetrators now when they are non white (when they can - obviously Southport/Southampton stabbings they could not avoid saying quickly the info was out there)

It took a few days to find out the perp of the stabbing in Birmingham 11/06/26 was called Abdulwasi Ahmadi - despite the stabbing occurring right outside the Bullring Birmingham where there would be lots of witnesses. I assume they were warned against posting on social media.

If there is nothing to see here in terms of the offending rates of people of different cultures then challenge the authorities to keep and release the numbers e.g. stabbing by perpetrator ethnicity/asylum status/time in the country so we can see for ourselves.

Another day another stabbing. Yes this time a white man. Pretty unusual in the context of stabbing rampages isn't it? If we had those figures we would know statistically the comparative rates. But we don't- wonder why?

This is all too accurate -

Well, Farage and Tommy Ten Names don't feel we should feel or express cold rage about the murdered baby or the Edinburgh attacker, so their followers are having a few days off.

Why aren't you out campaigning to end adoption and surrogacy without a female caregiver? I imagine you already have a job and possibly issues you campaign for? Or do you have all the time in the world but aren't bothered?

Do you ask somebody raising money for Breast cancer research why they aren't raising money for prostate cancer research?

Reform is campaigning on immigration so a an adopted child murdered by 2 white man, while dreadful, is not relevant to their campaign (as you know). How relevant is it to you? What are you doing about it?

YANBU.

I would hope we live in a society that condemns any form of violence, but it's quite clear that for some of the population, it's fine if a white man commits violence, and only needs to be protested when a non-white person is violent.

Just like it's fine for white men to be rapists and sexually abuse and groom women and girls.

Just like the high proportion of Stockport rioters had domestic violence records.

Just like Farage's comments about not getting angry or blaming men or the police when Sarah Everard was murdered.

All violence and abuse is abhorrent, but these people give white men a free pass, or at the very least turn a blind eye, while purporting to care about violence and abuse directed at women. The pattern seems to be: if the perpetrator is a white man, and the victim is either a woman or a non-white person of any gender, then it's acceptable.

You do realise that "Herr" means "Mr", right? It's something all German men are called. So given that you're using it as an insult, to mean that Farage is a Nazi, you're basically accusing all German men of being Nazis.

Which is quite the irony on a thread where you're supposedly decrying racism!

@nomas my understanding is that the outrage came about because the police reacted first and foremost to an allegation of racism. Their focus was so completely directed towards the possibility of a hate crime, that they failed to notice that the alleged perpetrator was dying of a stab wound.

The anger felt by people was due to how the police appear to have been trained to not use common sense, but instead to prioritise allegations of hate crimes - racism, transphobia etc.

If your house is burgled, the police won’t visit, you just get a crime number. But if you shout homophobic abuse at someone in the street you’ll be arrested.

That is what people were angry about.

Can you imagine if a gay couple had abused and killed a baby while Labour were in power? We'd have the usual suspects screaming that there was two tier adoption and Labour were encouraging paedophiles to adopt etc 🙄 The same old people using a tragedy to score political points.

And thought that an (alleged) racist remark to be a higher priority than someone's actual critical stab wounds.

OP's argument is somewhat undermined by the lack of rioting about the grooming gangs which were largely Pakistani heritage men preying on white British girls. This happened in dozens of towns and cities across the UK. And is still happening.

If the roles were reversed and it was white British men preying on Pakistani heritage girls, to anything like the same scale, would there be rioting? You bet your life there would be.

Certain people are the cause of our problems though and they happen to be of a certain race/religion.

people are not hating the refugees who come here legally to provide a better life for their family, or to escape war etc. legal refugees come here and work hard and contribute and integrate into our society. The problem lies with the men that are coming here illegally, murdering people and raping women and children and being given tax payer funded resources and a pat on the back from our government. That’s what is causing the tension. If you look at places like Dubai and the rest of the UAE they won’t let “these people” in either because of the danger they bring.

they are not hated because they are, for example, African migrants, they are hated because they are violent undocumented criminals that our country are allowing. However, the way the government are dealing with it is certainly creating unnecessary hatred because we are not protecting our country (including those from all corners of the world who are here legally)

the problem runs deeper then race.

No riots because there is no interest in this issue, it's all about race and religion.
(and money for the ring leaders)
Plus a lot of people are caught up in the World Cup, either there or watching it here.

Also undermined by the London riots of 2011. Probably the biggest riots in recent times when 5 people died.

They started after the police shot dead mixed race Mark Duggan (which was ultimately deemed a “lawful killing”).

I agree completely. Ambulances got rolling news coverage and a swifter, stronger, more compassionate response from the government than innocent Muslim people being attacked in the street as they go about their day. It sends a very, very clear message. All of Starmers talk about hatred and division and he is stoking it just as much as anyone else.

Oh my word. I suppose you have a benign explanation for the murderer’s mother hiding the knife too.

The “information the police had” included Henry Nowak repeatedly telling them he had been stabbed. Clearly you discount this information for some reason. I couldn’t possibly guess what that reason is.

That's a really good answer. I had never thought of this, but it's obvious now you say it.

Christ you're a bit dim aren't you. So if she has said Mr Farage is a nazi would that have been accusing all English speaking men of being Nazis?