To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

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I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

OP - Did you feel the same way when George Floyd’s death was ‘hijacked’ as you put it, and broadcast across all media?

Lovely kind tolerant left, in action. I saw it all over Charlie Kirk's murder. Rabid dogs spring to mind.

Henry's family are very understandably upset and appalled about how his death has been hijacked by the right wing to whip up violence and hatred

Your thread is demonstrating that a lot of pp have no respect for Henry or his family's feelings because pp have no qualms about it being used for their own political ends.

“and many many people have had enough”

you’ve had enough? What was building for you before this one incident when a police officer told a man he didn’t believe he’d been stabbed?

I’m not left, lovely or tolerant (obviously)

This is not about left or right or centre. It’s about how TR referred to Henry Nowak, which should matter if you truly care about what happened to him and how his murder is being disgracefully exploited and his name tainted with an offensive word.

What white privilege?

And how do you think this made Henry's parents feel?

FFS. He was someone's child. Have some compassion. Not a political point score!

Exactly. That boys poor family. Trying to grieve their son with the right-wing whipping up hate around it.

Tainted, exploited ? Quite the opposite to George Floyd then when his death was used to loot shops, set fire to union jacks in this country and attack police. Of course its about left and right and its certainly about race.

You're being unreasonable because your anger is displaced. We should be angry at the way this poor young man was treated, not at the words of someone who is angry about it... Truthfully, I think people like you are part of the problem, you're so upset about the words of the likes of Farage and Robinson that it deflects from the actual issue at hand.

Just to note, I dislike Farage, Robinson, Starmer - the lot of them so I ignore them. My concerns are with the failed system that lead to a young man being brutally killed and disbelieved.

1. you can say / type FUCK here - ok we dont need sanitising

2) AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them? At what point did you think they were anything but scum? complete and UTTER scum???

You've jumped the shark now. As I thought, another dog whistle thread.

Are you trying to incite hatred with your words?

Wow, I'm surprised to see so many "white privilege doesn't exist" posts on a forum occupied mostly by women. You know you've missed a word out there? "male" - the people that shout that slogan usually shout "white male privilege doesn't exist" - do you still agree with it??

White male persecution complex is hilarious (I say that as a white male) - look at the house of commons & lords and the CEOs of our largest companies - hardly any white males, they're nearly all black lesbians - oh.......

you need to explain what you mean before I can answer

“incite hatred”? Who cares if people hate someone?

Good point.

I’m not saying I’m not angry about what happened to Henry Nowak. My post isn’t about how he was treated inhumanely by the police or how the police only listened to the murderer.

My OP is very specific but unfortunately many posters here haven’t bothered to read it.

behave!

His name has not been tainted by the word fuck. His name has been tainted coming out of the cock womble wanker twat TR

This.

People I know are jumping up and down about how ‘woke has gone too far’ blah blah blah….

To me the only issue is that Henry’s parents have asked for their son’s death to not be turned into a vehicle to stir up hatred. Farage et al have done just that.

Just like when Lee Rigby was murdered, they instantly took him for their poster boy.

Looking at our current society, it’s clear to see what’s happening. There are undeniably sections of our communities that have suffered from horrendous racism historically and this continues for some. Decent people can see that racism is abhorrent. Governments and organisations such as the police generally recognise that there’s a lot of work still to be done. Unfortunately, in an attempt to create more of a level playing field for all, in some instances, it has become impossible to do right for doing wrong.

All lives matter, of course they do. However, there are shocking examples of where some sections of society have committed heinous crimes and have sometimes not been investigated thoroughly. I’m thinking about the grooming gangs scandal. This example and others fuels the fire in society for hatred towards certain sections of our community.

What has happened to the poor young man, murdered by a so called religious knife, is further fuelling the discord. The situation isn’t helped by our politicians, the media or certain factions of society.

I feel very despondent about how our society currently looks.

Exactly this. It's wrong to use that poor man and his family to score political points because that's what they're doing. The police need serious looking into and things have to change but rioting is only inflaming the problem.
When did the words left and right become an insult? We used to be able to discus different opinions without decending into chaos.

Really, we can all pack up and go home then. If you think the right incite hatred, what's the problem with hating someone? 🤷

I don’t think there is any issue with hating someone. What do you think the issue is?

we all hate Hitler, don’t we? We all hate Putin?

Oh we have read it and it shows where your priorities lie - scoring points. It's you who is using Henry to show how upstanding you are. It's not going to work anymore.