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To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

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Jane379 · Today 00:05

I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

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MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:11

Twisterlollies · Today 08:08

Sorry I just can’t listen to anyone desperately trying to think the best of Afghan men right now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0q25dwj807o

A clear and harrowing account explaining why so many Afghani men want to leave and find a better future for their families. We were complicit in screwing their country up for 20 years before handing it back to the Taliban and abandoning them to their fate.

MsJinks · Today 08:11

GucciBear · Today 08:06

They took no notice of the law when arriving in a small boat!! They will play the system as long as allowed.

That is the only way to seek asylum in the U.K. - to be on British soil and claim. This isn’t illegal entry in the eyes of the law then - if they land and don’t claim then it would be illegal.

There’s lots of debate around this I know, but this false understanding that these small boats are landing illegals, who remain illegal is not helpful.

There are illegal migrants in the U.K. but most will have arrived legally and then overstayed their visa.

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:13

OneTealShaker · Today 08:01

Look it up yourself. It’s not hard. Countries on the continent publish this.

This is the message I was replying to.

It is hard to find per-capita stats on perpetrator ethnicity for crimes in the UK.

1dayatatime · Today 08:13

Greenwitchart · Today 07:52

You need to provide statistics to back your claims.

However, I think there definitely are issues with men in general who come from cultures and follow religions that see women and girls as basically property and second class citizens.

The UK does need to get its act together when it comes to clamping down on illegal immigration and addressing misogyny as a whole.

Only 3% of rapes ever go to court and we have an overall issue with how ALL men, no matter their background, treat women and girls and how the criminal justice system and the police deal with victims.

Statistics have been provided please read earlier posts.

GeneralPeter · Today 08:14

DreadedInn · Today 07:21

Well of course it can. Passing certain westernised tests doesn’t make you particularly clever. But my point is, in 2026 is it OK that you can say that people from certain countries have low IQs? I am actually shocked that people can possibly believe this and even more shocked that they can post such rubbish on the internet. I know I shouldn’t be shocked but I do actively stay away from the right wing MSM so maybe this crap is everywhere and it’s just the fact it’s on Mumsnet that bothers me so much.

Yes. The arguments are about why. On the nurture side are things like nutrition, education, poverty. If you think those things affect tested IQ then you should expect big differences, which is what is found.

Twisterlollies · Today 08:16

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:11

A clear and harrowing account explaining why so many Afghani men want to leave and find a better future for their families. We were complicit in screwing their country up for 20 years before handing it back to the Taliban and abandoning them to their fate.

Leave without the women and kids! Ffs when will you wake up and smell the coffee???

We spent 20 years finding and equipping their army and when we left they ran away like cowards and handed their women back to the Taliban within 3 days!!!!!

1dayatatime · Today 08:17

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:13

This is the message I was replying to.

It is hard to find per-capita stats on perpetrator ethnicity for crimes in the UK.

Sex crimes by ethnicity is easy to find.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-07-09/66370

Sex crimes by nationality is not officially measured but there is data available from a FoI request - see earlier posts.

MifaoCD · Today 08:17

Because of their culture.

Because where they are from women are objects to be owned.
They don't 'date' women, they are given a bride by her parents, often in exchange for money or land.
Women don't have autonomy, they don't have to give consent. Sex is a right to them.
They cover their women up, head to toe, to stop temptation then they arrive here and see women in shorts and vest tops and see those women as shameful and think its OK to tough them because why are they ahowing their skin if they aren't ok with that?

These men are coming over in droves, with a belief set and culture that is totally alien to Britain.

They believe sex is a right and where are they going to find sex? Do you think British women are going to be attracted by them? Men living in HMO, speaking broken English. Of course they aren't. And they don't know how to treat and speak to women and so they just harrass them.

https://x.com/AntiWokeMemes/status/1971802481366622426/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1971802481366622426&currentTweetUser=AntiWokeMemes

Please watch that video. This is the reality of these mens mindsets. This is not a one off person. This is what they are taught by being brought up in countries that oppress and objectify women.

OneTealShaker · Today 08:18

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:13

This is the message I was replying to.

It is hard to find per-capita stats on perpetrator ethnicity for crimes in the UK.

Because the government refuses to publish it. Wonder why. Because European data tells us what UK data will tell us. And cover up is the way to counter that in this country.

Twisterlollies · Today 08:19

1dayatatime · Today 08:17

Sex crimes by ethnicity is easy to find.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-07-09/66370

Sex crimes by nationality is not officially measured but there is data available from a FoI request - see earlier posts.

I don’t care about ethnicity. A black person could be British, Nigerian, Jamaican or a thousand other nationalities. What’s the benefit lumping them together?

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:19

1dayatatime · Today 08:17

Sex crimes by ethnicity is easy to find.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-07-09/66370

Sex crimes by nationality is not officially measured but there is data available from a FoI request - see earlier posts.

It’s not that bogus Centre for Migration Control “data” is it ?

OneTealShaker · Today 08:21

Twisterlollies · Today 08:19

I don’t care about ethnicity. A black person could be British, Nigerian, Jamaican or a thousand other nationalities. What’s the benefit lumping them together?

It’s not even comprehensive data. The government said the would publish official data last year. But have refused to do it now. It was requested in parliament. But government are actively blocking it.

The gaslighters will point you to this nonsense which supports their gaslighting.

Naunet · Today 08:21

bigboykitty · Today 00:29

Please support your claim with evidence or admit that you simply made it up to support your racist narrative.

The taliban.
Are you seriously suggesting that women living under the taliban are no more likely to be victims of rape or misogyny, than women here are?

85% of women in Pakistan report to have experienced domestic violence, so are you claiming Pakistani women are more likely to lie than British women, or do you accept the Pakistani men are more likely to abuse a woman? It has to be one or the other, doesn't it?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11702125/

MifaoCD · Today 08:24

Just google rape statistics per European country and look at the countries where women are raped the most and the least.

Then compare that to the countries that take in most migrants and the countries that have refused to take them.

Its not coincidence.

GeneralPeter · Today 08:24

DreadedInn · Today 06:46

Sorry, are you actually saying people from certain countries have very low IQs? Am I really reading that right?

Yes. This is one of the debates that gets misunderstood when it moves to the general public. Researchers consistently find large differences. The debates are about why.

GeneralPeter · Today 08:26

@DreadedInn sorry didn’t mean to reply to you twice!

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:26

Twisterlollies · Today 08:16

Leave without the women and kids! Ffs when will you wake up and smell the coffee???

We spent 20 years finding and equipping their army and when we left they ran away like cowards and handed their women back to the Taliban within 3 days!!!!!

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20 years spent barely training anyone and certainly not equipping them with the means to change their society for the better.

You know that most migrants travelling via irregular routes are male due to the costs and risks of those routes ? They seek asylum and then apply for their families to come over safely and legally later.

Naunet · Today 08:27

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:11

A clear and harrowing account explaining why so many Afghani men want to leave and find a better future for their families. We were complicit in screwing their country up for 20 years before handing it back to the Taliban and abandoning them to their fate.

Because they've run out of little girls to sell? Jesus christ, imagine empathising with the men from that story.

Twisterlollies · Today 08:27

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:26

20 years spent barely training anyone and certainly not equipping them with the means to change their society for the better.

You know that most migrants travelling via irregular routes are male due to the costs and risks of those routes ? They seek asylum and then apply for their families to come over safely and legally later.

Sorry we’re not falling for this absolute fantasy. Do you even hear yourself? Genuinely?

MsJinks · Today 08:28

Twisterlollies · Today 08:16

Leave without the women and kids! Ffs when will you wake up and smell the coffee???

We spent 20 years finding and equipping their army and when we left they ran away like cowards and handed their women back to the Taliban within 3 days!!!!!

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Umm I have to object to this.

Did you see the fall of Kabul? Did you see how the Taliban, under Trump’s arrangement, took control of Afghanistan?

Have you any, any idea of how the Taliban behave to whom they consider traitors?

It is simply not true the men left women and children then - many, even most, families who could get out/assistance from other countries stayed together. Of course many ran - anything to escape torture from the Taliban when there was no chance of winning - but many ran in family groups - some hoped if they ran then their family may possibly just be safer as well.

Nowadays any family requesting passports will only get so many - not all. Not that they can book travel. Women can’t travel without a man - I mean anywhere not just onto a plane - the men have the best, even only, chance of getting out. Afghanistan bordering countries are going to be no better for women/families escaping either.

EasternStandard · Today 08:29

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:26

20 years spent barely training anyone and certainly not equipping them with the means to change their society for the better.

You know that most migrants travelling via irregular routes are male due to the costs and risks of those routes ? They seek asylum and then apply for their families to come over safely and legally later.

Not anymore. Labour have pretty much made it impossible for women and girls to join later.

MifaoCD · Today 08:29

MsJinks · Today 08:28

Umm I have to object to this.

Did you see the fall of Kabul? Did you see how the Taliban, under Trump’s arrangement, took control of Afghanistan?

Have you any, any idea of how the Taliban behave to whom they consider traitors?

It is simply not true the men left women and children then - many, even most, families who could get out/assistance from other countries stayed together. Of course many ran - anything to escape torture from the Taliban when there was no chance of winning - but many ran in family groups - some hoped if they ran then their family may possibly just be safer as well.

Nowadays any family requesting passports will only get so many - not all. Not that they can book travel. Women can’t travel without a man - I mean anywhere not just onto a plane - the men have the best, even only, chance of getting out. Afghanistan bordering countries are going to be no better for women/families escaping either.

My husband would rather stay with us and die than leave his kids and wife to be tortured.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · Today 08:32

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:11

A clear and harrowing account explaining why so many Afghani men want to leave and find a better future for their families. We were complicit in screwing their country up for 20 years before handing it back to the Taliban and abandoning them to their fate.

Yes, they leave their mothers, sisters and daughters to fend for themselves in the most toxic patriarchal society where women don't have human rights or access to medical care and girls are sold as children into sex slavery, whilst they head off to live off the British taxpayer. What lovely men, leaving their female relatives to death and torture whilst they head over here.

How about deport all the Afghan men and pay for flights for the same number of Afghan women and children to come here and take their place. The women need asylum more and pose no risk of rape.

We already have enough British rapists, we don't need more.

MsJinks · Today 08:32

Twisterlollies · Today 08:27

Sorry we’re not falling for this absolute fantasy. Do you even hear yourself? Genuinely?

It’s hardly a fantasy ffs - discussion of migration doesn’t mean we should ignore the facts of it.

MandingoAteMyBaby · Today 08:33

MifaoCD · Today 08:24

Just google rape statistics per European country and look at the countries where women are raped the most and the least.

Then compare that to the countries that take in most migrants and the countries that have refused to take them.

Its not coincidence.

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And what am I supposed to be seeing ?

To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?
To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?