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Why do men hate women so much?

494 replies

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

OP posts:
InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 18/12/2025 17:35

It’s not silly to be upset by that!

Men’s physical strength is a seriously under acknowledged factor. Subconsciously men know women are weaker and therefore easy to bully as we physically can’t fight back. See also rates of domestic violence, rape, sexual assault.

movintothecountry · 18/12/2025 17:35

Sahara123 · 18/12/2025 17:28

It’s definitely not all men, the men in my life wouldn’t dream of doing something like that. But I don’t agree it’s just men, I’ve heard women being horrendously bitchy to other women.

Have you ever heard of a group of women in a car hanging out the window to call a random passer by a fat cunt?

I'll admit not all women are perfect but lets not compare apples and oranges here Confused

Mollydoggerson · 18/12/2025 17:36

Insecure men trying to impress each other, do something wild to shock and excite the group.

Put others down to big themselves up.

About 25 years ago, I got stuck in a car with similar men, they were driving around the streets, shouting at gueriers/addicts, shouting out sneery remarks at skinny, poor looking men. The perpetrator is doing it to impress the other lads, look how Alpha I am.

It was scary, I left as quickly as I could, and was too shocked to say anything.

THEY ARE INSECURE, you are no doubt a beautiful human being. Ignore them.

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:36

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 17:33

YANBU OP. Not your fault at all as well. I don't know what I would have done in your situation. Might have given the finger.

I just kept walking, if they were on something god knows what they’d have done if I bit back.

OP posts:
Zov · 18/12/2025 17:36

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

Then start a thread about all these 'vile women.' Whatabboutery helps no-one. And as has been said, men are WAY worse when it comes to being nasty, vile, and abusive to women.

Brefugee · 18/12/2025 17:36

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

You are so tiresome trotting out this claptrap

Zov · 18/12/2025 17:38

movintothecountry · 18/12/2025 17:35

Have you ever heard of a group of women in a car hanging out the window to call a random passer by a fat cunt?

I'll admit not all women are perfect but lets not compare apples and oranges here Confused

Exactly. I'm sick to fucking death of 'but but but, not all da menz are like dis, women are just as bad (NO THEY ARE NOT!) please be nice to da menz.')

Just stop! Hmm

Clychaugog · 18/12/2025 17:38

Sending love, OP.

I have no clue why men choose to be that way.

I've only ever been called an ugly bitch by male strangers.

Zov · 18/12/2025 17:38

Brefugee · 18/12/2025 17:36

You are so tiresome trotting out this claptrap

YES INDEED! Seems we have a couple of men on this thread. Hmm

JumpingJiminy · 18/12/2025 17:39

He clearly couldn’t admit he’d done something stupid

A very large % of men can't. I had a tradesman carry out work, he fucked a bit of it up, I asked him to come back, which he did eventually, but we exchanged loads of messages where he just talked bollocks and never once admitted he'd been less than amazing. In fact, tried to tell me I was wrong at one point!

A male friend helped me with something, he damaged my wall and ripped wallpaper. I was annoyed and called him out. He said, oh just blame me! I replied that I would blame him because it was his fault. Did he apologise? No.

shhblackbag · 18/12/2025 17:39

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:29

Maybe not around you but stick them in a car of other men, make them relatively anonymous and I bet they would.

Yep, I agree with this. And they do it because they can. Even when they kill women, the consequences don't always match the action.

Screamingabdabz · 18/12/2025 17:39

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

You do know that men commit most of the violent and sexual crime? The overwhelming stats just make your statement sound ill informed and a bit silly.

Kimura · 18/12/2025 17:39

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:25

To be honest at this point, seeing attitudes online and in person, I’m starting to fall off the “not all men” bandwagon. More and more it’s becoming clear very few men actually have respect for any women.

Very few? Absolute nonsense.

Online? Social media is cess pit and worst of it certainly doesn't represent the majority of decent people in the real world, men or otherwise.

In person? What happened to you was awful behavior, but it was one group of idiots in a car. Imagine how thick they must be to have found that amusing? Not worth a second thought.

Our worldviews are shaped by out experiences so it's not unreasonable to get down about stuff like this if you've had your share of bad experiences. But I think it's a bit defeatist to judge all men (or any group) by their worst as become resigned to that point of view.

Tykarimyoureallymadeitgoodtome · 18/12/2025 17:40

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

Because they're stupid
You can lose weight if you wish
Those idiots in the car
Will always be stupid.👍

BreakfastClubBlues · 18/12/2025 17:41

They do it because it makes them feel good. They know you're unable to defend yourself and enjoy the power.

It's all about them and no reflection on you.

Chiseltip · 18/12/2025 17:41

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

He wasn't a man, he was a boy, a child, he may have looked like a man, but he wasn't.

GreenCandleWax · 18/12/2025 17:42

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:30

It’s just made me feel horrible about myself. I know that’s silly but it really has.

That's what they intended. Bastards, and I'd bet cowardly with it. Men like this seem to act as a pack - must fit in with the herd. If there was anyone decent in the car, he probably would not have had the balls to speak up and call them out on it. Despicable. Please don't take it to heart OP. They did this to upset you because they wanted that power over you in a twisted attempt to put a woman down (nothing personal to you, it could have been any woman) - you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time when they were pumped up with incel type ideas.💓

Chicaontour · 18/12/2025 17:42

They are unhappy witb their lives so they look for ways to decimate women , to make them smaller. It has nothing to do with your weight, hair colour, whether you wear glasses, its about them being abusive dicks. I am sorry you went through that today thats awful but please know its nothing to do with your weight.

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 17:44

Not your fault at all. I feel sick 🤢 thinking about this.

Completely stand by you OP.

174ghxt · 18/12/2025 17:45

Screamingabdabz · 18/12/2025 17:39

You do know that men commit most of the violent and sexual crime? The overwhelming stats just make your statement sound ill informed and a bit silly.

The majority of victims of violence are men.

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 17:45

I probably would have screeched back and maybe said they had a small willy..but completely understand you OP.

Horrible stupid scum.

HeadyLamarr · 18/12/2025 17:46

Yourlifeinyourhands · 18/12/2025 17:23

some men I think you mean.

I've had it happen to me more times than I can remember, and it's always bloody men.

It's not all men, but it always a man.

If one in ten Malteser was a ball of crap, would you risk eating one?

anytipswelcome · 18/12/2025 17:46

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

Do you really not think there is more evidence of men harming women through hatred than vice versa? Statistics re violence, sexual assault, harassment and murder back up that this absolutely is a gendered issue. That doesn’t mean all men are vile or no women are vile. Seems silly to deny the reality that is backed up by statistics.

GreenCandleWax · 18/12/2025 17:46

174ghxt · 18/12/2025 17:45

The majority of victims of violence are men.

Yes of violence perpetrated by MEN. Got it now?

echt · 18/12/2025 17:46

174ghxt · 18/12/2025 17:45

The majority of victims of violence are men.

At the hands of other men.