Why do men hate women so much?

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I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

That’s so gross. Fatphobia, racism and misogyny are often interlinked unfortunately .

Can I ask what your partner said or did when it happened with the gorilla noises?

Sorry this happened to you OP 😢
I've had boys and men shout at me in the street since I was about 10. Telling me how ugly I am and making fun of me. Never had a woman do it. I am bisexual and have been sexually abused by men only. One of them was a policeman I was in a relationship with.

Why not? Men can hate women and abuse, assault and murder them due to their misogyny AND carry out violent attacks on other men for different reasons. To rob them, in fights over women or spilled drinks, as part of gang culture, because they approach dispute through physical confrontation, because they support a different football team, because they see them as inferior because they're gay, or disabled, socially awkward, a migrant....tons of reasons why men attack each other. Few based in a hatred of men by men simply because they're men.

What vile individuals, I’m so sorry OP. As for why, I wish I knew. I think they just see us as commodities and so if they don’t think we are of any use to them eg as servants or to fuck abuse is fair game. Absolute cunts

It was the pelicot case that convinced me it's most men.

50 men were convicted of of raping her. Dominique had messaged thousands of men inviting them to. Or suggesting ways to do it to other women. It wasnt just that so many men had said yes, it was that not one single man had reported that they had been approached. Not a whisper from any of them.

The police discovered the evidence when they investigated Dominique pelicot in an unrelated case.

Not one single man out of thousands stood up for Gisele pelicot.

Not one single man.

It was weird you make this point because, in my experience, when a bloke makes a mistake and you call him out on it, you rarely get a heartfelt apology. It’s usually a begrudging apology followed by some sort of strop (and I’ve heard plenty of women on here say the same thing).

It isn't always men. I had a WOMAN last weekend drive the wrong side of a set of bollards (so on the wrong side of the road) and then scream at me calling me a stupid blind cunt for stepping out in front of her- because I was obviously looking for traffic from the other direction. Mad woman. It was actually really scary.

Yes. That was absolutely horrendous. The poor woman.

To be fair that’s probably explained by the fact she was likely absolutely terrified and realised how badly she ducked up. Not done purely to scare you. Not acceptable, but I can be explained.

Are you for real? How many times have women wound down car windows and shouted 'fat cunt' at you? How many times have women said 'fucking bitch/cow' to you as you've walked down the street?

Stop minimising.

I actually think its much more simple. Its about power. Men are already in a one up position to women as they are physically stronger than us. When they do stuff like this it makes them feel more powerful. All the bad shit that happens in the world is about men wanting to feel more powerful. Trump, Putin, Bondi shooters, rapists, murderers, Andrew Tate, they are all seeking power over others. That's how I see it anyway. And AT obviously makes them all hate us even more. 😡

I honestly think most men are just complete arseholes at this point. So few of them seem to be actually decent, kind, honest and respectful of women.

Yes, and that's the point here: that men just do it because they think it's fun or they want to impress their mates (!) or some other insane and inane reason only known to them. Women will be abusive as a result of something specific.

Okay, i'm not gonna lie, i'm fine with that

Dont go around bullying women if you dont want me to insult your manhood

Exactly. I have a lovely DH but he’s the first to accept that men can be real arseholes. He doesn't need defending, as this thread isn’t about him or any other decent men women on this thread are involved with.

I've also experienced plenty of creeps in my time, starting with my abusive F and thd other men who sexually abused my DSis and me. They were all men. So it isn't all men, but it always is men. Far too many of them.

I'm so sorry you experienced that, OP.

MRAs are about ..,

Just look at the statistics .. Murders, Rapists, Sex Offenders, Paedophiles, Drug Dealers, Car thieves, Muggers, Armed Robbers etc - it’s Men in the vast majority of cases.

OP, can I point you in the direction of the song “Big Dick Energy” by the Lambrinis - next time it happens, just play that through your headphones

Includes the verse:

Mate, that white knight act is getting pretty fucking irritating
Considering it's nothing but performative
Should I be the one crossing the street
Because I'm scared of the man right behind me?
He really thinks he's big
Big dick energy
I'm clutching onto my keys as soon as it hits 10:30
As it's my sole responsibility to get home safely
Big dick energy, big dick energy
Once again, we're apologising for your fucked up behaviour
When at the end of the day
It's not that fucking big

So sorry this happened to you OP ❤️they are sad little twats who hate themselves and their miserable sad lives

That woman would probably have reacted similarly to a man because she got a fright and knew she was in the wrong. The OP's abusers would not have shouted at a man.

To all the "Not my Nigel" posters, you have no idea how your "lovely" husband or son behaves in an exclusively male environment.

When I was about 20 I had a summer job in a golf clubhouse, booking times and taking green fees. The set up of the "ticket office" was that there was a window that the punters would come up to but there was also a kind of back bit where the staff member sitting there couldn't be seen by the public but we could see them. I was the first female in that club to do that job and it took a while for members to cotton on that there might be a female within earshot.

It was an early eye-opener to me just how vile "nice" men can be when they think there's no female in earshot. The air was blue with the "banter" between my male colleagues and the punters, never mind the discussion of the "attributes" of the female bar staff and waitresses in the club. On one occasion I heard one punter refer to that new girl's (me) "titties" and what he wouldn't mind doing to me. My 2 male colleagues were much older than me and were kind of stuck between calling them out and ceasing to be "one of the boys" or going along with it and apologising to me afterwards. They tended to go for the latter but as they were caught out stealing soon after, it wasn't a problem for long.

These guys wives probably thought they were lovely and respectful to women.

Typical bullies. Pick on someone weaker than you. They wouldn’t say it to another bloke.

They do, the police are mostly men, putting there lives on the line for rest of us?

Do we need more police. Yes.
Do we need more reporting of this kind of vile behaviour. Yes.
Do we need appropriate sanctions for vile men who behave like this. Yes.

Every man should bring up young boys to high standards of behaviour.

I don't think we disagree on this?

The police are full of racist sexist pricks as well

Its took me 9 years to come forward about my abusive ex...

Police officers are also sometimes murderers.

@Lagalaha hi, my then partner didn't hear it, though I did. They were driving past and actually made gorilla noises. However I know the other two partners would have gone completely mad and it would have all escalated in a bad way as both are very strong and defensive.