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Why do men hate women so much?

494 replies

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

OP posts:
BookMarque · 19/12/2025 13:11

Many years ago I got a barrage of filth from some men in a company van in a queue of traffic . I took a pen and piece of paper out of my bag and wrote down the van’s registration and company name . They shit themselves. Another incident I had two men up ladders side by side calling me a fucking slag as I walked by . I asked them to repeat what they said as my husband what like to hear it and he was round the corner . They shit themselves. Cowards underneath.

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:21

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:29

Maybe not around you but stick them in a car of other men, make them relatively anonymous and I bet they would.

What utter nonsense.

GreenCandleWax · 19/12/2025 16:44

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Newdaysameday · 19/12/2025 18:42

surreygirly · 19/12/2025 09:24

Another all men are shit thread zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I do not know any man who hates women
I have male family members
Male mates
Male colleagues

Another apologist!

Yawn

Brefugee · 19/12/2025 18:57

As we all have. But I have 2 sons who are lovely kids. Easily as kind if not more so than the girls in their class.

nah. I know lots of women who have said that about their sons. And i have heard my daughters, and the other girls they know name them as some of the fucking scroates who have pestered them for nudes.

Sundazie · 19/12/2025 19:07

It’s not you it’s them. I had a guy describe me as a pig once. It was years ago and I remembered it. I was young, slim and pretty when I look back. But it knocked my confidence. I didn’t know him I was just walking past. I was dressed up ready to meet my friends. But I never forgot it. Hold your head high op it says a lot more about their behaviour and who they are.

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 19:07

Don't let it get to you op.

If you really think about it, imagine being such an utter amoeba that you would behave like that. or laugh at someone else behaving like that.

They aren't really men: they are just gooberish losers. Just be glad you don't have such a non-existence that that is entertainment for you.

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 19:07

Sundazie · 19/12/2025 19:07

It’s not you it’s them. I had a guy describe me as a pig once. It was years ago and I remembered it. I was young, slim and pretty when I look back. But it knocked my confidence. I didn’t know him I was just walking past. I was dressed up ready to meet my friends. But I never forgot it. Hold your head high op it says a lot more about their behaviour and who they are.

If you were dressed up he probably fancied you.

Newdaysameday · 19/12/2025 19:09

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 19:07

Don't let it get to you op.

If you really think about it, imagine being such an utter amoeba that you would behave like that. or laugh at someone else behaving like that.

They aren't really men: they are just gooberish losers. Just be glad you don't have such a non-existence that that is entertainment for you.

unfortunately they are men.

Looking at the stats very common men

TheaBrandt1 · 19/12/2025 19:36

The only ones who can give you the truth about your sons are their female peers.

I feel like emailing some mothers to tell them how fabulous their late teen sons are. Then some boys are absolute misogynistic twats.

PersephonePomegranate · 19/12/2025 19:56

They're insecure arseholes who need to abuse someone who's probably not going to fight back to feel better about themselves. It's pathetic.

I think that sometimes there's an element of these losers being at the bottom of the heap amongst men and are resentful. Their pick of women is probably very limited and so they actively reject and undermine women.

With some, I also think there's a sense of entitlement and as a PP said upthread, the expectation that women are just there to serve men.

OP, it could have been any one of us and they'd pick up on anything they thought might be a vulnerability. I've had my 'saggy arse' commented on before whilst out running (it's not saggy, it's flat, thank you very much 🤣) and been called a stuck up bitch for not wanting to engage in a lewd conversation with a complete stranger.

They're pathetic excuses for human beings and they're deeply threatened by women (in genereal) standing for less of their shit.

Zov · 19/12/2025 19:56

Tinytears12 · 19/12/2025 12:23

Oh and now, my sons are both older. They would never, ever treat a woman like that, or like the men who hassled OP. They are considerate, kind young men who understand their moral responsibilities.

I think it's so sweet that you really believe this. Breathtakingly naive, and blinkered, but sweet.

You don't know what your sons are like when you're not around.

They are both men. There's a very strong likelihood that they are not the gentle, kind, considerate, young princes who 'understand their moral reponsibilities' that you imagine they are ... When you're not around/not in earshot, I guarantee their behaviour is different to how you believe it is..........

PersephonePomegranate · 19/12/2025 19:59

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 19:07

If you were dressed up he probably fancied you.

And knew he wouldn't have stood a chance.

Zov · 19/12/2025 19:59

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:21

What utter nonsense.

No it's not. The women on here claiming that 'all the men they know' are just sooooo perfect and lovely and would never EVER do or say anything disrespectful towards women, are laughably naive and blinkered. I can't believe they genuinely believe this. 😆 Bless...... Grin

Zov · 19/12/2025 20:01

TheaBrandt1 · 19/12/2025 19:36

The only ones who can give you the truth about your sons are their female peers.

I feel like emailing some mothers to tell them how fabulous their late teen sons are. Then some boys are absolute misogynistic twats.

Yep! Many mothers of sons just refuse to believe that their precious little princes are anything other than absolute Angels, who are terribly lovely and kind and sweet to all women, even in front of all their mates, and male peers.

Sorry Jan, they're not the Angel you think they are.

turkeyboots · 19/12/2025 20:07

I have spent much of my life outside the UK and have never experienced this abroad.
To me its a UK phenomenon to yell at women from the safety of a passing car. And Im a red head so have "gingerrrrr" yelled at me from too many cars in the UK. But never a peep anywhere else.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/12/2025 20:17

The not all men crowd are probably the same people who wouldn't allow their young teenage daughters to walk alone in the dark wearing nothing but shorts and a vest top , and you have to wonder why that is 🤔. What or rather who are they afraid of ?

CurlewKate · 19/12/2025 20:20

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 19:07

If you were dressed up he probably fancied you.

Please don’t tell your daughter that if men are shit to her it’s because they fancy her.

landlordhell · 19/12/2025 20:37

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/12/2025 20:17

The not all men crowd are probably the same people who wouldn't allow their young teenage daughters to walk alone in the dark wearing nothing but shorts and a vest top , and you have to wonder why that is 🤔. What or rather who are they afraid of ?

Nobody is saying that most abuse towards women is from men. I am simply saying it’s not all men. Of course it’s not , that’s a ridiculous statement.

Newdaysameday · 19/12/2025 20:43

charcoalandsugar · 19/12/2025 09:31

The stats speak for themselves about men as a sex class.

Every 3 seconds a domestic abuse incident is reported to police

93% of defendants in domestic abuse cases are male

62% of women reported fear of public spaces due to men as a sex class

1 in 4 women will be raped or assaulted by a man in their lifetime

Women change their behaviour because they fear male violence

Women will take taxi’s home even if they would prefer to walk due to safety concerns about men as a sex class.

Women are advised not to walk home with earphones in to keep themselves alert to the threat of male violence

Women will hold their keys between their fingers as a weapon because they fear men as a sex class

Women cross the road if they sense a male is walking behind them at night.

Women are often subjected to being filmed in toilets and upskirted by men as a sex class and this is a growing problem.

Approx. 3 women per week die by suicide as a result of domestic abuse

98% arrested for sexual assault are male

79800 women across England and Wales are raped or sexually assaulted every year

94% of rape survivors are women

5 in 6 women who are raped don’t report it to the police

9 in 10 girls in schools, say sexist name-calling and being sent unwanted images of a sexual nature happens to them or their peers.

MEN AS A SEX CLASS POSE A DANGER TO WOMEN .

This

Pinkissmart · 19/12/2025 20:59

Yourlifeinyourhands · 18/12/2025 17:23

some men I think you mean.

Helpful

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/12/2025 21:38

landlordhell · 19/12/2025 20:37

Nobody is saying that most abuse towards women is from men. I am simply saying it’s not all men. Of course it’s not , that’s a ridiculous statement.

I wasn't quoting you - I don't even know what you said, I was merely pointing out that the venn diagram between not all men and the knuckle dragging protector of women and girls is probably a circle.

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 21:43

CurlewKate · 19/12/2025 20:20

Please don’t tell your daughter that if men are shit to her it’s because they fancy her.

No I wouldn't say that to a young girl but that's the truth. Sometimes they resent having a response provoked in them.

Calliopespa · 19/12/2025 21:44

PersephonePomegranate · 19/12/2025 19:59

And knew he wouldn't have stood a chance.

Exactly.

Zov · 19/12/2025 21:52

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/12/2025 20:17

The not all men crowd are probably the same people who wouldn't allow their young teenage daughters to walk alone in the dark wearing nothing but shorts and a vest top , and you have to wonder why that is 🤔. What or rather who are they afraid of ?

Hmmm, yes indeed. Hmm

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