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Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

820 replies

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:05

Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

OP posts:
Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:11

On what planet would you think something like this is reasonable to have an AIBU natter about it.

you didn’t need to mention her name.

This is someone’s life.

Itsagreatdaytosavelives · 03/07/2025 08:12

why read the daily mail for your news?

you do you

not my business

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 03/07/2025 08:14

Stop reading shite

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:14

Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:11

On what planet would you think something like this is reasonable to have an AIBU natter about it.

you didn’t need to mention her name.

This is someone’s life.

Edited

It’s in the actual press. She has spoken about it.

OP posts:
Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:15

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:14

It’s in the actual press. She has spoken about it.

And so you thought

Let’s have a good natter about it on AIBU

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:17

People discuss things on here. It’s a forum. I can ask for it to be moved if you think it’s the wrong place.

OP posts:
ChatPDQ · 03/07/2025 08:18

If you read the article she referred to (at least 1) boyfriend paying, so your cost to the NHS comment is misguided.

It’s interesting this is focused on her, and not all her partners who it seems (at least some) were aware. There is no judgement on them.

nomas · 03/07/2025 08:18

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:05

Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

You make it sound like she’s had dozens, she said it was ‘around 4 or 5 times’.

Wouldn’t having those babies have cost the NHS more?

ExtraOnions · 03/07/2025 08:19

Not your body, not your business

Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:19

blossoming56 · 03/07/2025 08:17

People discuss things on here. It’s a forum. I can ask for it to be moved if you think it’s the wrong place.

Read the responses on this thread

it looks like it would be similar or tumbleweed wherever you posted

AmadeustheAlpaca · 03/07/2025 08:20

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LameBorzoi · 03/07/2025 08:22

I'm not even sure she actually even had those abortions. She makes a living by being controversial in exactly this style.

Upsetbetty · 03/07/2025 08:22

ExtraOnions · 03/07/2025 08:19

Not your body, not your business

THIS! It’s her choice! She can do what she likes and she doesn’t have to explain or justify to anybody that’s the point!!!! She can do what she likes and see what she likes about her choices. It’s not up for discussion. What makes you think it is @blossoming56

SummerEve · 03/07/2025 08:23

The whole article, account and narrative around this woman is awful, and she knows exactly what she is doing. Many similarities with a certain Ms Price.

NarnianQueen · 03/07/2025 08:24

People in this thread are acting like it’s a terrible sin to even talk about this! We talk about everything else 🤯
i think it’s shocking that she and her partners are so rubbish at contraception that they’ve needed to resort to abortions four or five times! If she was in a different socio-economic group she’d probably be listed as needing support in her everyday life 🫠

nomas · 03/07/2025 08:24

Itchytoe · 03/07/2025 08:15

And so you thought

Let’s have a good natter about it on AIBU

Can you give it a rest? It’s a chat forum. And Lily and Miquita were having an open ‘natter’ about it on their podcast.

Abortion doesn’t need to be a taboo subject.

Caligirl80 · 03/07/2025 08:25

It's a shame that you decided that you had nothing better to do than start a thread about this very sad story.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 03/07/2025 08:25

Oops posted too soon. All the slagging off of the Daily Mail on Mumsnet is so tiresome. Lots of posters quote an article from it, then apologise, refer to it as Daily Fail, yawn. Just be up front about your reading material. So what if someone reads the Daily Mail, who cares, just stop apologising about it.

nomas · 03/07/2025 08:25

Upsetbetty · 03/07/2025 08:22

THIS! It’s her choice! She can do what she likes and she doesn’t have to explain or justify to anybody that’s the point!!!! She can do what she likes and see what she likes about her choices. It’s not up for discussion. What makes you think it is @blossoming56

Er, because we’re all discussing it? Get off your high horse.

Lavender14 · 03/07/2025 08:26

I think either you are pro-choice and you accept a womans right to make medical decisions about her body full stop, and trust that women will make the right decision for themselves at each point in their lives, or you aren't.

I think you need to unpick WHY you feel so uncomfortable given you know nothing of her circumstances or how far along she was at each time etc. If we genuinely think that abortion is a safe and appropriate procedure to end a pregnancy and avoid labour then does it actually matter how many anyone has had? Or is it coming from the myths and stereotypes that exist around abortion, and women who have abortions, that there's something inherently 'bad' about it. Which also begs the (hypothetical) question, how many abortions are too many abortions.

In terms of not being sure how many, not all women attach the same level of significance to an early pregnancy or abortion and see it as a clear cut decision and don't think about it after much. Some women are vulnerable either due to age/exploitation/ addiction/ mental health and may need multiple as a result of that. If you're uncomfortable because you're concerned for the health of the woman after x number of abortions then surely that's between her and her doctor and her medical notes.

As for Lily Allen I think fair play to her, she's smart enough to know she'll catch heat for this but has decided to be open about it anyway. I'm not going to debate her specific circumstances (nor do I think should anyone) until they've been in her specific shoes.

ThejoyofNC · 03/07/2025 08:26

What an awful thing for someone to say.

SummerEve · 03/07/2025 08:27

Upsetbetty · 03/07/2025 08:22

THIS! It’s her choice! She can do what she likes and she doesn’t have to explain or justify to anybody that’s the point!!!! She can do what she likes and see what she likes about her choices. It’s not up for discussion. What makes you think it is @blossoming56

The minute she gave a voluntary account to the press it became up for discussion.

PalePinkPeony · 03/07/2025 08:27

I agree with you OP. Think it’s wrong and even if not true, a wrong message to be sending out to younger girls / teens. People have no morals / shame or responsibility though these days.
Slightly different note but As a woman, I am appalled / sad about what I see recently on social media from other women. Some stuff on insta for example makes me feel very depressed.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 03/07/2025 08:28

Has it occurred to you that its deeply personal and probably not something she wants to delve into so has a flippant response to questions.

Fml how as women are we still tearing each other down in shit like this?!

nomas · 03/07/2025 08:28

Caligirl80 · 03/07/2025 08:25

It's a shame that you decided that you had nothing better to do than start a thread about this very sad story.

Why don’t you actually listen to Lily and Miquita talking about it before berating OP?

metro.co.uk/2025/07/02/cant-judge-lily-allens-abortion-confession-pro-choice-23562712/

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